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Monday media notes: Setting the agenda

By Zach Arnold | October 28, 2007

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Yahoo has officially separated it’s boxing and MMA pages. You can access their MMA home page here.

Sam Caplan means business.

BBC Sports is reporting that Joe Calzaghe will be retiring within the next 12 months.

Taking a look at upcoming fights and challenges in UFC for 2008.

Fightlinker needs your help with WordPress issues. I love WP, but it is definitely a flawed program with a lot of quirks and bugs.

An interesting note about the K-1 HERO’s show from South Korea (featuring Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Denis Kang) — the show aired on Tokyo Broadcasting System from 12:30 AM-2 AM. That’s a very late timeslot for K-1 programming. One of the challenges K-1 is facing right now is finding big enough corporate sponsorship of the HEROs events.

The K-1 HERO’s event in South Korea was a tough card to make predictions for. MMA Analyst says that you could have made a lot of money. For those of you who saw the Japanese TV version of Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Denis Kang, here’s the translation of what it says in the upper left part of the screen (paraphrasing): Yoshihiro Akiyama returns after 10 months versus PRIDE’s #2 world ranked Denis Kang.

The IFL had an open-call session in Chicago on Saturday. The Des Moines Register has an article profiling an IFL ring girl.

An interview with Paul Buentello.

How do you book a fighter for a show when he isn’t supposedly told about the booking?

Debating whether or not people are fans of UFC or MMA in America.

The Fightworks Podcast has an interview with Armando Garcia. Speaking of the CSAC, this is going to be a big week for Sean Sherk.

Even more changes for the upcoming IFL GP. This is getting out of hand. At least Jay Hieron is still on track to fight.

There was a large MMA show in New Mexico over the weekend.

The big MMA show in Springfield, Mass. over the weekend drew 2,500 paid at the MassMutual Center.

Matt Lindland is looking for work.

Dana White reflects on booking Wanderlei Silva vs. Chuck Liddell. Jake Rossen thinks that Liddell should be fighting at Heavyweight.

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58 Responses to “Monday media notes: Setting the agenda”

  1. Ivan Trembow says:

    Also, I don’t want to make it seem as though “marketability” should have absolutely zero effect on how much Zuffa pushes a fighter or buries/demotes/releases/doesn’t-sign a fighter. Obviously marketability has to play some role in it and the fighter’s ability has to play some role in it. All I’m saying is that I don’t think it’s too much to ask for the “ability” part of that to be north of 50% of the equation, instead of nowhere near 50 percent, which is how it’s booked now.

  2. Grape Knee High says:

    “I am sure he will still be overpaid, but thats because guys like him and vick sign contracts that are based a lot on potential.”

    Funny how this is exactly the opposite of what you were saying before. “Potential” does not remotely equal “skill and performance”.

  3. dice says:

    Funny how you are still unable to comprehend anything that doesn’t fit in your narrow mind.

    Grape Knee
    ““Potential” does not remotely equal “skill and performance”.”

    Yeah, the people who are offering these huge contracts are basing their decisions on estimations of an athletes future skill and performance, otherwise known as potential (sometimes those estimates are good and sometimes they are bad). You really seem to have trouble understanding the basic concepts of what I say.

    Grape knee high is still upset about the time he got called out on his BS

    Here is the link

    http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/10/02/csac-releases-strikeforce-fighter-salary-figures/#comments

  4. Grape Knee High says:

    dice, you’re a riot. Just keep changing your argument to prove you were “right” all along.

    If you noticed from the very beginning, I actually said that I didn’t necessarily disagree with Ivan, just that it’s not a black and white issue for the very same things we’re speaking about now (potential, marketability as Ivan admitted, etc).

    You clearly didn’t understand that or you wouldn’t have started arguing. Keep back tracking.

  5. Also, I don’t want to make it seem as though “marketability” should have absolutely zero effect on how much Zuffa pushes a fighter or buries/demotes/releases/doesn’t-sign a fighter. Obviously marketability has to play some role in it and the fighter’s ability has to play some role in it. All I’m saying is that I don’t think it’s too much to ask for the “ability” part of that to be north of 50% of the equation, instead of nowhere near 50 percent, which is how it’s booked now.

    Ivan, the problem I have with your view on this is how you once again try to demonize Zuffa as if they have some evil motive. Its a free market and its the fans who ultimately decide who gets pushed via PPV buys and feedback. If a fighter wants to be be boring, that his or her peragative, but don’t think I’m going to pay money for that. This is a spectator sport and Zuffa operates in accordance with pushing and dropping fighters due to business needs; not some idealism of the ways sports should be. Why hold that against them?

    I also happen to think that Zuffa does a masterful job with its booking. Is it any cooincidence that the UFC is the most competitive promotion. Watching some of the amatuer fighters that get pushed in Heroe’s is laughable. Shibata looks like he never even trained for the ground and this is one of their poster boys.

  6. dice says:

    I will post it again

    http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/10/02/csac-releases-strikeforce-fighter-salary-figures/#comments

    Notice in this conversation grape knee that I point out it looks like fighters weren’t currently happy with their contracts. And what happens a week later?

    Its funny that you still can’t show any proof that I am backtracking. You should post quotes of mine that are contradictory. Instead you just say “you are backtracking” and expect people to believe you. You keep digging yourself in hole and I am starting to feel sorry for you.

    Grape knee
    “If you noticed from the very beginning, I actually said that I didn’t necessarily disagree with Ivan, just that it’s not a black and white issue for the very same things we’re speaking about now (potential, marketability as Ivan admitted, etc).”

    So you don’t completely disagree with ivan? just a little then, go ahead and prove how much you agree with him. Post some links of comments were you agree with him. Mostly it looks like you do disagree, especially on the major issues.

    Its called evidence, go ahead and provide some.

  7. Grape Knee High says:

    LOL.

    You mean where I said: “It’s not entirely true that in “real sports” the best competitors are always represented at the highest levels of competition.”?

    Since your reading comprehension is deficient, it means I partially agree with his assessment.

    And then I said: “I’m not saying you’re necessarily wrong, but I think there’s a shade of grey here that you’re not really addressing in your “real sport” argument.”

    Again, since your reading comprehension is deficient, this means that I don’t think he is wrong, just that he’s not representing some of the nuances of the situation. Which he later agreed with.

    You’re so obsessed with proving me wrong, and proving that you’re right, you can’t see that I’m not even saying anything other than common sense.

    And, here’s what you’ve contributed to this thread:

    1. Formula One is not a real sport…because…well, just because. Btw, hundreds of millions of fans across the world disagree with you.

    2. Michael Vick showed the “skill and performance” of the top QB in the league to justify his fat contract. Too bad, now you had to admit he was “overpaid” because the truth says otherwise. He never had a single great season as a QB.

    3. You said: “I think that skill and performance is directly correlated to compensation in just about every sport.” No mention of “potential” at all, yet magically, now you’re claiming that’s what you meant all along. Of course, the mere fact of saying someone has “potential” implies a lack of “skill and performance”. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have to say “potential” in the first place.

    4. All you can do is continually point to some debate we had where you think you won. You’re like the dumb high school football player who continually talks about idiotic past “victories”. No one cares, including me.

    I’m done wasting my time with a Sherdogger like you.

  8. dice says:

    “Michael Vick showed the “skill and performance” of the top QB in the league to justify his fat contract. Too bad, now you had to admit he was “overpaid” because the truth says otherwise. He never had a single great season as a QB.”

    He finished second in the mvp voting, and yet he never had a single great season?

    “1. Formula One is not a real sport…because…well, just because. Btw, hundreds of millions of fans across the world disagree with you.”

    So you don’t even address why i don’t consider it a real sport, you just state that since a lot of people watch it then it should be considered a sport. I guess the blue angels are participating in real sport. I guess hot dog eating is a real sport. Do you get the point yet, I said that because it involved AUTOMATED MACHINES, that it wasn’t a real sport.

    DEFINE POTENTIAL for me. Does it have anything to do with future skill and performance? Owners sign guys based on what they estimate their future skill and performance to be. Is this really that hard for you understand. Owners can’t sign guys to new contracts every single year, they have to sign them to 10 year deals or whatever, thats how you get a guy like Vick who didn’t live up to his POTENTIAL.

    You are so fucking dumb that you are unable to grasp very basic concepts. Instead of addressing the issues I raise you just call me a sherdogger.

    Like I said before, you are upset because I exposed your lack of economic knowledge and now all you can do is call me names and misrepresent my statements every chance you get.

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