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Joe Rogan’s interesting comment about Roy Nelson and Elite XC
By Zach Arnold | December 5, 2009
So, during Roy Nelson’s ring introduction on The Ultimate Fighter tonight, Rogan was praising Nelson as a ground fighter who has faced a high quality of opponent. He mentioned Elite XC for some reason and bluntly said that Elite XC was known as the promotion that paid it’s fighters to stand up. We know about what happened with Jeremy Lappen (who is going to be running California’s amateur MMA scene) and stand-up gate, but I never expected UFC to bring it up (especially so randomly) on television.
Regarding Chuck Liddell vs. Tito Ortiz III… that is an ugly fight that I think will draw a cold PPV buyrate. The fight that would have made the most sense was Liddell vs. Kimbo at 215 pounds, but you can’t have either as a coach. When I heard the announcement of Liddell/Ortiz III, it reminded me so much of WCW booking from a decade ago.
If I could get a tightly-edited 2 hour broadcast instead of a sloppily-produced 3 hour live broadcast, I’ll take the taped broadcast any day. Comparing the K-1 produced show at Yokohama Arena on TV versus the UFC show at the Palms… holy $*Q&! Zuffa’s production team really could use some time off to study how Fuji TV produces a show. Wow.
I really thought tonight’s show could have been a good launching point to build momentum for next week’s Memphis PPV. Instead, I didn’t even feel like UFC was even giving a good faith effort in hyping up the Memphis show outside of the boilerplate interview segment with Penn and Sanchez. Just an incredibly lackluster build-up for the event.
Someone in the comments section mentioned this but it was a thought I was pondering tonight… remember when UFC announced Lorenzo Fertitta joining the company as an “earthshattering” announcement? How would you consider his job performance right now?
I cannot recall a fighter grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory like I did with Houston Alexander did on Saturday night. I was laughing out loud when Kimbo Slice nearly finished him off with a choke.
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I think it is safe to say that the UFC has gotten complacent recently with their monetary success because they are REALLY blowing lately!
Alexander should have been penalized for running. I mean, Machida runs, but he does damage and actually finishes fights. Maybe it would be conservative reffing but he was really doing circles.
Anyway, UFC sucks recently lol but thank GOD for MMA, love it, so I can’t really complain.
TY Zach!
PS – We were watching the live telecast at work and my boss of all people actually thought Alexander took a fall!! I think it was a legit fight but he brought up a decent point. Especially considering the UFCs streak of injured fighters and weak cards as of late; they may be trying to boost his status as a draw.
I think at this point Chuck Liddell is an mma celebrity and nobody cares to see him fight anymore. Luckily Tito has the perfect style for Chuck (doesn’t hit particularly hard, very basic striking, good but not great wrestler, no variation in his game, etc), but the fight isn’t compelling in the least because we have seen it twice, both were knockouts, and now neither man is relevant. I can’t think of any 2 fighters I particularly want to see coaching the show; I would suggest a format change, but to what I am not sure. Obviously the best way for them to get ratings will be to have Brock Lesnar as a coach, and the opposite coach won’t matter at all. However Brock seems to love the woods and would be loathe to leave. Other than that I don’t know of any coaches who are compelling enough to bring ratings. Maybe they could get guest coaches, for both teams, like Mike Tyson could be the boxing coach of both teams, participate with the guys, give comments on them, etc. Everyone loves to watch Mike Tyson. He, like Brock, has the ‘it’ factor.
I have always wanted the UFC to do a HBO 24-7 style show leading up to fights–how awesome would it have been to see Kimbo v Houston 24-7? Amazing. They could have followed Kimbo as he got submitted by white belt after white belt at ATT, or Houston while he practiced running in circles for 5 minutes at a time.
Remember when Travis Lutter almost stopped Rich Franklin in Round 1 of their UFC fight, but then Lutter ran out of gas in the second round and Franklin finished him? Remember when Lutter was released after that fight, with the reason that the UFC gave to the Wrestling Observer being that they wanted to send a message that if you can’t make it through two rounds without gassing out, then they don’t want you in the UFC?
How’s that going now? Kimbo Slice and Houston Alexander had an awful fight, in part because they both had awful cardio.
Marcus Jones and Matt Mitrione both ran out of gas early in their fight on the TUF 10 finale, and if the UFC still doesn’t want to promote fighters with bad cardio, then why were Jones and Mitrione fighting each other in the first place on the main card of a live Spike TV broadcast?
Jones and Mitrione both had fights on TUF 10 during which they ran out of gas very early on, including an embarrassingly awful fight between Mitrione and Scott Junk in which both of them were completely exhausted by the end of Round 1, but Dana White called it “an awesome fight” because “they stood up and they banged!”
Phil Baroni predictably ran out of gas like he always does just a few minutes into his fight against Amir Sadollah and then spent the better part of the next 15 days gasping for air with his hands down by his side.
Mark Coleman is still Mark Coleman (the same Mark Coleman whom White mocked when he was fighting Fedor Emelianenko in 2006), only now he’s 46 years old. He’s had two fights in his UFC return, and he gassed out in both of them (going 1-1 in the process). Now he’s going to be in a major fight against Randy Couture in what will either be the semi-main event or the official main event of a $45 PPV show in February.
Dana lauding Junk and Mitrione for standing with their hands at their waists and flailing at each other was one of the most unintentionally funny moments in mma history.
They should have signed Nelson to the main roster a long time ago, that way there wouldn’t have been such a big experience gap in the main event tonight.
Do you think Schaub was following his coach’s instructions / gameplan in that fight? If he was, what an awful strategy they devised for him. Watching him throw one or two punches at a time and then just standing around for a few seconds was aggravating. And Schaub appeared to forget you can also kick in MMA.
The winner of Hamill/ Jones is going to be in a lot of pain tomorrow. I bet even his forearms will hurt. I wish there were a lot of of guys like Jones in MMA, that way the guys like Hamill would get weeded out a lot faster. I’ve never been impressed with Hamill and he’s been at this a long time. He should be at a point in his career where he can do to other fighters what Jones did to him tonight, but he can’t, because he isn’t that good and he doesn’t have killer instinct.
This card was a joke from the second this season of TUF started, watching this season inspired me to gain 50lbs and start a Heavyweight MMA career, my 8years old daughter has more fighting skill than that whole house had. Also, having those jackasses from FAKE wrestling ringside made me want to vomit. Strikeforce gets better looking everyday. On another note, Has anyone noticed how Couture has been running through his bouts? Was this the compromise that he and Dana came up with to get him back in the Octagon? Will we see him make his move to Strikeforce to fight Feodor in a year or so?
McSweeney / Schoonover should have gotten fight of the night. McSweeney didn’t just lay back in the third round knowing he had the fight in the bag. He put his opponent away with extreme prejudice. It was awesome. I feel sorry for his opponent, because he got it bad. Awarding this fight of the night could have potentially motivated other fighters to always go into the final round looking to end it.
It was sad watching Houston and Kimbo go at it. Especially that final round. They only made it to the final bell because they both put on such shitty performances. A competent MMA fighter would finished the Kimbo that showed up tonight quickly. Kimbo is a project that isn’t going to pan out too well for the UFC and they should probably get it over with as quickly as possible. Feed him to the wolves.
Robert why were you offended by Hulk Hogan’s presence? He has been a cultural icon in this country for a quarter of a century. Do you think people will think mma is fixed if Hulk is there? LOL.
I’m glad that Hulk Hogan’s presence has made you more inclined to turn to Strikeforce, which will feature 50 year old Herschel Walker’s debut next month, and will feature another PRO WRESTLER(!!) Bobby Lashley at some point soon.
I wonder if Matt Hamill will ever fight again after tonite. He didn’t lose by some fluke, he was entirely outclassed by a 22 year old who threw him around like a rag doll, and then sat on his chest and elbowed him in the face 200 times. How do you come back from that? It was a devastating beatdown. The difference in ability was embarrassing.
If you compared running Chuck-Tito III to what WCW did (running old timer matches into the ground) then UFC forgetting to hype their PPV at the expense of interviewing “celebrities” and concentrating on angles that have nothing to do with their upcoming $45 event is very WWEish.
Ivan he actually gassed twice, the other against Anderson Silva. He also failed to make weight in the biggest fight of his career, Joe Riggs is the only other UFC fighter to not make weight in a title fight but atleast he had the excuse that he took the fight on short notice and his team refused to train him.
David, I wasn’t offended by Hulks presence, he’s a good freak/side show at any legit event. It was the McMahon’s presence. Along with rumors of her brothers buy-in, I was just expressing a little concerned. I know I am in the extreme minority here, but I am of the belief that a majority of the FAKE wrestling fans, post 8th grade, are closet, scab-collecting, booger eating, mouth breathers.
Yes, Strikeforce will also have it’s freak shows, like the UFC has Kimbo, Strikeforce will use Walker. However, no one can deny that if Strikeforce signs Henderson that, that division starts to look much better. Remember, unlike the UFC, Strikeforce has something going with the Japanese organizations, were fighters can fight in both organizations. Not to mention all the new fighers they have recently signed. I believe Manhouef just joined the organization. With the rash of fighters pulling out of UFC events and the excitement that Strikeforce has generated around its middle and higher weights Dana should be more than concerned.
Henderson would be fighting at 205 if he went to SF and Dream does’nt have any LHWs and like one HW (who is their champ anyway)
Im guessing Hogan etc being there had more to do with Spike.
“David, I wasn’t offended by Hulks presence, he’s a good freak/side show at any legit event. It was the McMahon’s presence.”
Am I missing something?
Was one of the McMahon’s in the crowd? Because I only saw Bischoff, Hogan, and Dixie Carter. LOL at getting offended by someone who wasn’t even there.
Have you ever watched a Japanese MMA event? Because there are pro wrestlers and promoters running around everywhere at those shows.
Yes, there was nothing wrong with Hogan, Carter and Bischoff at the show. It clearly wasn’t UFC’s idea, they now all run TNA, the WWE’s competitor (and I use that term loosely) who Spike is now trying to heavily promote so they’d obviously get facetime on a show guaranteed to get big ratings for Kimbo’s fight. They were just spectators, it’s not like they did an angle where Alexander got pissed he lost and jumped Kimbo only to have Hogan run into the Octagon and beat him down and then close the show posing with Kimbo as “American Made” plays.
The TNA thing added to the “lowbrow spectacle” feel of the thing that Kimbo/Houston, white power sponsorship, lousy production, and constant hyping for “Manswers” and “1000 Ways to Die” further validated. Hulk Hogan as “cultural icon” is hilarious; He is in the way Mr. T, Vanilla Ice, Steven Segal, Jon And Kate Plus 8, Pet Rock, and Fritz The Cat are. Why he was there is less important than the fact that he was.
The fights themselves were pretty lousy, as you might expect. McSweeney, a fighter entering with a sub .500 record, made a statement against a woefully out of shape middleweight that he was the 3rd best competitor on the show. Naturally, all the talk leading into the show about the high talent level has disappeared and no one seems willing to admit who thought so not long ago.
The perspective is that it will be a success as a season because the ratings were up and Kimbo was on the show. Mind you, Kimbo didn’t need the show, and Kimbo losing to Roy Nelson, then being teased for 8-9 weeks while people endured terrible fights probably didn’t do any actual good. I don’t know that Kimbo is “hurt” as far as being a guy people want to see fight after the Houston bout any more than they were by the Nelson fight and subsequent leading on.
Jones looks better and better. He’s a specimen with incredible athleticism. I still have serious questions about the ways he holds his hands in there and how his stamina will be affected by a legitimate top 15 guy who doesn’t push arm punches, but I may be turning the corner on him.
Frankie Edgar is still too small for 155. He’s a great fighter, and that’s what helps him win, but he’ll never be champion. He’s only there because the money is that much better being a gatekeeper or high level contender at 155 rather than champ at 145 for WEC.
My favorite two moments of that UFC show last night were:
1. Kimbo and Alexander doubled over, hands on shorts, and gasping at the end of their fight.
2. That second of total silence following Dana White’s HUGE announcement that Liddell and Ortiz were going to be coaches on the next TUF.
I’m probably a hater and all that, but those were my two favorite moments that I saw on that show.
Hulk Hogan a cultural Icon in north America??????
Woah¡¡¡¡ Long live America and all his people.
And hasn’t Kimbo been involved in MMA training for close to three years now? Why are so many sites talking about how his recent training at ATT is somehow making this big difference?
He could have been home-training off of Dan “The Wolfman” Theodore’s VHS instructional tapes for 2-3 years and looked about the same on the ground as he did.
Those writers who are saying that are people who want Kimbo to validate himself for being signed to the UFC as a fighter rather than a spectacle. Of course, that won’t happen, but its nice to imagine differently, just like when people were touting that Kimbo really signed to the UFC to a standard TUF contract except with more money if he won as a “carrot”.
2. That second of total silence following Dana White’s HUGE announcement that Liddell and Ortiz were going to be coaches on the next TUF
I keep forgetting to respond to this; Well, it was gonna be a legends fight. We knew that right away. As far as legends fights go, this isn’t a bad one. Not a great one. But better than letting either get beat up by no-names or young kids like what happens to Pulver. I’m more worried about the fighters they’ll get. Apparently a lot fewer folks turned out for tryouts and they may even have some TUF retreads out there.
Anyone not familiar with Mr. Theodore’s work may look here: http://www.mma4selfdefense.com/
I think the ratings for the actual season will be good. Tito is self-promotion mode is what he does best and of course lots of MMA fans still have a softspot for Chuck regardless of how washed up he is.
But the fight itself? Massive bomb. Legends fight or not it needs to be on Spike if it has to happen. I cannot see people paying money to see a fight where the hook is: “hey, maybe Chuck sucks worse than Tito and the outcome won’t be the same for the third time!” That’s just crazy.
I know they’re going to use the airtime as a forum for Tito’s “I got poked in the eye in the first fight and the second fight was stopped too early. Plus I had two broken legs, a ruptured spleen, ovarian cancer, a kidney stone, shrapnel from the war in my right knee, five golden rings, several ingrown toenails, an early case of swine flu, west nile virus, a deviated septum, Uzi bullets in my shoulder from a conflict with a Triad who I found out were selling bootleg Team Punishment hoodies, and I had a bad case of rug burn. But this time I’ll be ready and will never be healthier” propaganda. But while it makes for interesting reality television, good fight hype it does not make.
This thread is full of LOL.
You can hate on McSweeney for being a shitty mma fighter, you can hate on him for allegedly being a good kickboxer but being awful at punching and incredibly unathletic, but you can’t hate on the fact that he can save you 15% or more on car insurance at Geico.com. Balancing his Geico gecko voiceover duties and training full-time (well, looking at his body, training part-time) is a herculean task for any man.
Alan;
Never, EVER, shit on the good name of Fritz The Cat! Robert Crumb is a God-DAMNED genius! Any comic and animated movie (the very first animated movie rated X back in the day might I add) about an anthropomorphic cat having sex and smoking weed is a win in my book! Just like “Omaha The Cat Dancer”. Except Omaha was actually a well written comic. I’m dead serious, it was actually very good.
Anywho, it was a pretty miserable fight event. I would have loved to catch the K-1 World Grand Prix Finals though.
Jones kept looking up at the ref to call the fight and then gets dq’d. Fuck that Dusty booking
To be honest, even with the lack of quality talent and shitty fights, this has been the only season of Ultimate Fight that I’ve watched from beginning to end. The main reason is that this season has actually entertained me. The situation comedy featuring Evans and Jackson constantly butting heads, complemented by a motley-crew of supporting characters, rejects from the Land of Mis-fit Toys. It’s a damn shame that this won’t lead up to Evans and Jackson making a hugh PPV buy rate next week! Screw you Hollywood!
The big show was mostly watchable, given my lowered standards. I agree with the bad production. It seemed like Dana brought in a bunch of amateurs to run the show. Most noticeable was the first minute and a half of the McSweeney covered up by mugshots after the commercial break. Very sloppy.
As for Kimbo, I was expecting Alexander to maul his ass. But it looks like his ATT training has made a WORLD of difference. He now has a ground game for starters.
“Big Country” is legit, belly and all. He more than proved it this season. I think the only problem will be that his lackluster fights will frustrate the hell out of Dana.
“White power sponsorship”? Where the f*ck did that come from? I don’t remember seeing the KKK or the silkscreened anywhere on the octagon or being promoted. Or is Alan being a douche and assumes MMA main appeals the white racist hicks. Whatever…
Yes, the Huckster is an American icon, although his recognition and appeal has been fading rapidly. He and Bischoff are on one last cash-grab at Dixie Carter and TNA’s expense. Hulk and Bischoff have had a small wrestling tour of Australia, an often neglected market for live shows. That has provided them momentum to “partner” with TNA and Spike. It seems like Bischoff and Hogan want to prove that they can do what Jeff Jarrett and Vince Russo couldn’t, run TNA into the ground. That will most certainly will happen once they go head to head against WWE on monday nights.
“White power sponsorship”? Where the f*ck did that come from
The enormous banner in German colors reading “Hoezler Reich” with Iron Crosses on either side?
Hulkster is less of an American Icon than Grave Digger the monster truck. It looks sad to have to give people like that airtime if you’re trying to pretend to be “major league”.
“Alan;
Never, EVER, shit on the good name of Fritz The Cat! Robert Crumb is a God-DAMNED genius! Any comic and animated movie (the very first animated movie rated X back in the day might I add) about an anthropomorphic cat having sex and smoking weed is a win in my book! Just like “Omaha The Cat Dancer”. Except Omaha was actually a well written comic. I’m dead serious, it was actually very good.”
I’ll add a big plus one to this.
Also, who was the WP/Nazi sponsor?
More on the sponsor in question:
http://www.fightlinker.com/nazi-bullshit-makes-it-onto-ufc-broadcast.mma
Perhaps they can offer Cain “Brown Pride” Velasquez a sponsorship?
How did I know there’d be some kind of Nazi sponsorship ‘debate’ on this site? Oh yes, its THIS site.
So, to recap, a company that sponsors many fighters, and one of them happens to be Fedor Emelianenko— Sufficient reason for that sponsor to be banned from the UFC.
A company that sponsors Neo-Nazis — Not sufficient reason for that sponsor to be banned from the UFC.
lol, check out the top headline on Yahoo Sports’ UFC section:
“Point Proven: Kimbo Slice entered ‘The Ultimate Fighter’ to prove he’s a legitimate fighter. Saturday night’s win was his vindication.”
How did I know there’d be some kind of Nazi sponsorship ‘debate’ on this site? Oh yes, its THIS site.
Is there really a debate? The “debates” I’ve seen seems to be more or less establishment of facts followed by a very porous defense of “Well, Monson and Velasquez have offensive tattoos, so this should be okay too.”
“… Chuck Says:
Alan;
Never, EVER, shit on the good name of Fritz The Cat! Robert Crumb is a God-DAMNED genius!…”
Lol,:)
I considered saying something about that, but I agreed with the rest of his post so I didn’t.
I dont think he meant Fritz specifically, just past pop icons in general.
I’m not hating on Robert Crumb; His redo of the Book of Genesis is on my Christmas list to my wife. I’m just saying that Hulk Hogan is a minor figure at best in the history of American culture. By that same token, does anyone think they’d rush over to highlight Eric Bischoff during NFL coverage? During NHL coverage? During coverage of a NASCAR Camping World Truck Series race? It feels silly and low rent to do that.
Alan–Hulk has had his own VH1 show, he had his own tv show “Thunder in Paradise” a long time ago, he’s been in movies, and he is probably the most famous pro wrestler of all time in the US.
Furthermore, why are you on this “low rent” tip? This is the UFC, not ballroom dancing, and this is Spike TV, not Bravo. FFS anytime Kimbo is fighting on a card, and any time a Nazi sponsor is allowed, there is no reason to really ask whether or not it is high brow entertainment…
UFCs mediocre product is starting to catch up to itself. Might be time to sell. Strikeforce, with less shows has been more consistent.
I’m tired of watching fights that have illegal blows, or some other judging mishap in them. The events do not seem complete and the fighting is now being usurped by marketing for either spike or another ppv.
The UFC could be amazing if they varied their graphics and DID study Fuji TV.
I just watched some of the K-1 matches and I found myself actually enjoying the fights – something UFC has not yet provided in their past few ppvs.
Alan–Hulk has had his own VH1 show, he had his own tv show “Thunder in Paradise” a long time ago, he’s been in movies, and he is probably the most famous pro wrestler of all time in the US.
Umm, yes. These are the reasons why its so sad that the UFC has to give Hulk Hogan airtime.
Furthermore, why are you on this “low rent” tip? This is the UFC, not ballroom dancing, and this is Spike TV, not
Bravo. FFS anytime Kimbo is fighting on a card, and any time a Nazi sponsor is allowed, there is no reason to really ask whether or not it is high brow entertainment…
Again; I don’t disagree. It is patently obvious what the UFC show was last night, and pretty disheartening.
What does “this site” have to do with pointing out obvious Nazi symbolism in the sponsor? If you didn’t notice the linked story was from Fightlinker, who are hardly the PC Police of the online MMA community to say the least. And BloodyElbow, MMAOpinion, MMANews, Savage Science and BallHype have also run stories on it.
And nobody said the fighters sponsored by the company (Mac Danzig, Joe Brammer, Donald Cerrone) are racists. Just that the Nazi symbolism of the brand, at a time where Zuffa is acting rather fascist themselves about sponsorships might not be the best image to project if they’re cutting sponsors off for “not being good enough for their increased profile.”
I did think it was kind of funny to trot Hulk out after last I heard Hulks opinion of MMA was “come on, do you really think thats real!”
I dont have a problem with the Hulk, still one of my faves. I was just under the impression that he wasn’t particularly fond of MMA so it only added a few more layers of strange to an already disturbing event.
” The Citizen Says:
UFCs mediocre product is starting to catch up to itself. Might be time to sell. …”
Meh. Where’d ya get that?
It might be time to do the right thing and get back to concentrating on product quality more than the market appeal. Concentrating to much energy on the hard sell instead of the product is the problem IMO.
I didn’t think that mediocre K1 card was drastically better than one of the crappiest UFC cards in years. And personally I’ll sit through another crappy MMA card before I’ll sit through anything featuring “the voice”!
robthorn wrote: “I did think it was kind of funny to trot Hulk out after last I heard Hulks opinion of MMA was ‘come on, do you really think thats real!'”
I was thinking the same thing. Here’s a guy who has said for years in radio interviews that he thinks MMA is fake, and now he’s on a live UFC broadcast talking about how much he likes the UFC.
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AnvNpwdQtbeDsaUnCiiyS7MMNwU6?slug=ki-kimboskeep120509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
God, I can’t stand this guy. He’s such a puppet it’s unbelievable.
Hogan isn’t alone as a pro wrestler who is vocal in his belief MMA is worked. I’ve heard countless interviews with wrestlers who believe the finishes of at least the main events are worked and some like Jim Cornette who say it’s legit but they knowingly book fighters they want to push against guys with styles they think they can beat to elevate who they want.
Plus, it’s Hogan. The same Hogan who claims in his book he was able to wrestle 400 days a year in 1986 because of the Tokyo-to-New York time change. He’s clearly senile. His guest spots on Bubba The Love Sponge are fascinating to hear for the “can he really be THAT brain damaged?” yucks factor.
some like Jim Cornette who say it’s legit but they knowingly book fighters they want to push against guys with styles they think they can beat to
elevate who they want.
Uh, they definitely do this. No question. Its a century old boxing tactic of matchmaking.
Well, Strikeforce went ahead and signed Dan Henderson to a 4-fight deal.
While I think it gives them lots of interesting matchmaking opportunities and a legitimate, recognizable name to add to their growing roster, I think they’ll likely have paid far more than they should have/can afford (no figures released that I’ve seen yet) Affliction style.
T-minus 12 minutes until the “Dan Henderson sucks! Nobody wants to see him fight even though he stole the show at UFC 100 and was going to headline a PPV against Anderson Silva. I was only going to run that fight to prove that nobody wants to see Dan Henderson! Our receptionist would knock his dentures out!”
Hendo-Mousasi will be an awesome fight. Hopefully they save it for CBS so it gets as many viewers as possible.
http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/12/07/dana-white-i-pushed-dan-henderson-into-signing-with-strikeforce/
“Nothing’s going to help Strikeforce,” Dana said. “They have too many fighters under contract and not enough events. They can’t keep some of their obligations to fighters already. Either they’re going to start breaching contracts or paying fighters not to fight. It’ll take a lot more than one guy to help them. Their whole business model is f****d. They’re coming after UFC? Yeah, OK.
“I could care less,” he continued. “Here’s the reality: If I wanted Henderson, he’d be in the UFC. It’s not like, ‘F***, Strikeforce beat me out.’ He’s been a free agent for a long time. If I wanted him, I would have signed him by now.”
I hope Henderson got decent money to go over. If so, then good for him.