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BJ Penn’s greatest hits: Claims Georges St. Pierre is a steroid user

By Zach Arnold | August 5, 2009

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After his performance a week or so ago on a UFC media conference call trashing the media for the way they handled the ‘greasing scandal’ involving Georges St. Pierre, BJ Penn still can’t get Georges St. Pierre off his mind. Over to you, Kevin Iole:

Penn said he believes St. Pierre uses steroids, though he concedes he has no proof. St. Pierre is arguably the sport’s most popular fighter and Penn knows that making such allegations isn’t going to win him any friends.

Penn, though, isn’t the type to be shy about offering his opinion though it may be unpopular.

“It’s just my opinion that he uses steroids,” Penn said. “That’s it.

My opinion. I do believe it. I can’t hand you any proof, but that’s my opinion.”

In an earlier conversation on the topic, Penn said, “In my opinion, he doesn’t play by the rules when it comes to steroids and growth hormones and that stuff. Look at him. He’s the worst. He looks like that every day. That’s cheating. There is a reason why there are rules against using steroids. The rest of us, we get fat, then we train and get skinny and the cycle goes over and over again. He looks the same way all the time. Come on.”

One of our commenters (Alan) brought up that there was great irony to what BJ said given who he is training with (Marv Marinovich) and how most MMA fans online must not be sports fans. Oh, I know the irony of Penn training with Marinovich, given what his background is and everything that happened with his son Todd, who used to play football in the NFL but had significant drug problems.

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20 Responses to “BJ Penn’s greatest hits: Claims Georges St. Pierre is a steroid user”

  1. David M says:

    Whether or not GSP roids, he definitely cheated to beat BJ. If the NSAC had any balls they would have suspended GSP and his cornermen. I don’t see a moral difference between what GSP did and what Margarito did; both were done to cause more damage to the opponent and to create an unfair advantage. If BJ Penn had gotten seriously hurt in the fight, I would have wanted criminal sanctions against GSP/Jackson/Nurse the same way I would have wanted them if Margarito had killed or badly injured Mosley with plaster in his gloves.

    In Penn’s case, he took a hellacious beating because he believed in his guard, which was rendered ineffective because Georges cheated. BJ took so many vicious elbow shots; had he known that there was no way he could catch GSP on the ground due to the illegal vaseline, he may have utilized a different strategy.

  2. Vox says:

    I think GSP should sue BJ for defamation and make him prove what he’s saying about the steroids and HGH.

    CryBaby Penn has fallen off the bottom rung of credibility with me…I hope that Florian beats him into retirement…a destroyed knee or elbow would be nice.

    @David M: The NSAC had people in GSP’s corner during that fight, and the cleaned him up between every round…are you saying the NSAC representative wasn’t doing his job? Even if we actually get to see him doing it *on camera* twice?

    CryBaby Penn’s nuthuggers are as delusional as he is.

    Actually…I hope the NSAC changes the GSP-CryBaby fight to a no decision and UFC books it again…I’m pretty sure GSP will crush CryBaby even worse, which would be lots of fun.

    And yes, I’m pissed off about CryBaby’s whining…I used to be a fan of him, and he’s become the worse disappointment in combat sports.

    Waste of air and space.

  3. Nepal says:

    David M, your logic is as sound as BJ’s.

    Interestingly if you look at a picture of BJ’s head back when he was fighting Uno or other earlier fight and look at his head-size compared to today, it’s really noticeable. That’s more an indicator of steroid use somebodies physique. I’m not saying he roids but honestly it does look a bit Barry Bondsish, difference wise.

    BJ isn’t winning the propaganda war. GSP beat the tar out of him not because Nurse put a little grease on him, GSP is simply way too big and strong for a lightweight like BJ. Close to a 20 pound weight difference come fight time. BJ 168, GSP 187 lbs. With all the training GSP did to defend the rubber guard combined with his power, no wonder he stifled BJ.

    Go on BJ, further embarrass yourself in the MMA community.

    Even a huge BJ fan like I used to be. I’m now rooting for Kenny.

  4. Michaelthebox says:

    Penn is such a tool. I hope Florian beats him like a bitch.

  5. EJ says:

    Every time BJ opens his mouth it just makes me more sure that Kenny is going to beat him. Penn has GSP on his mind all of the time he isn’t mentally ready for a title defense against a guy who is young, hungry and very talented. The BJ Penn mystique is going to take another huge hit once he losses his LW title who knows what kind of tantrum he’s going to through after Saturday.

  6. Ivan Trembow says:

    The latest garbage from everyone’s favorite UFC astro-turfer, “mmalogic,” comes in the comments section of this post (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/8/5/978873/the-correct-way-to-use-fedor-in), and it’s about the potential marketability of Brett Rogers.

    In response to a comment by Michael Rome in which he said that Rogers has a lot of marketability, “mmalogic” made comment posts that included the following quotes:

    “mmalogic”: “The problem is that he’s black. Black dont sell ppv’s in MMA.”

    and

    “mmalogic”: ““working class black man” doesnt get a black fanbase nor the “wanna be black” white fanbase”

    and

    “mmalogic”: “Rashad, Rampage, Tuf and Kimbo is a trojan setup in getting the “wanna be” black market. (the white kids who actually spend money).”

  7. Nepal says:

    Hey Ivan,

    Nice try at attempting to hijack the thread.

    Why don’t you go home and count the tiles in your bathroom. Don’t bother sharing crap with us, comment on the thread otherwise shut up.

  8. Ivan Trembow says:

    I was just posting in the most recent thread, but you’re right that it’s far more topical in the new thread that was just posted. So, I’m going to post it there, and it would be fine with me if it was deleted from this thread (since it will be in the other thread).

  9. BuddyRowe says:

    Come on now guys, if GSP was found out to be on roids would you be surprised? The guy looks like a friggin’ action figure.

  10. Alan Conceicao says:

    I wouldn’t be shocked if anyone was on roids, BJ, GSP, etc included. Still, I’d prefer someone actually come forward with some evidence before making claims. In BJ Penn’s case, he has sour grapes about the fight earlier this year and he wants to angle for another one, probably because he doesn’t care about fighting anyone at 155.

  11. Ivan Trembow says:

    BJ Penn should just ask Dana White. After all, Dana said regarding the Sean Sherk case that he can tell just from looking at someone if they’re on steroids. This will also save a lot of money in drug testing expenses because it’s so much cheaper to simply have Dana White look at each fighter in order to determine if they’re on steroids… (sarcasm intended)

  12. Ultimo Santa says:

    Anyone who has every played sports, goes to the gym, or just reads about fitness, knows that there are different BODY TYPES.

    I have several endomorphic friends who work their asses of running an hour a day, dieting, etc. and they still look soft like BJ Penn.

    I have two very annoying mesamorphic friends who drink pop and eat chips, rarely work out, and they look slightly less ripped than GSP. Three weeks in the gym and they’re ripped with veins popping out of their forearms.

    Saying “Look at that dude! STEROIDS!” is probably the most poorly thought-out, easily disputed argument you can make.

    If the person you’re referring to is 300 lbs. of shredded, WWE-style muscle I can possibly get behind your logic…but a 185 lb guy?

    And the grease-gate thing? REALLY? Are we still talking about this?

    In BJ Penn’s OWN STATEMENT, he said that GSP was completely wiped off between R1 and R2. HIS WORDS. R1 was COMPLETELY stand-up, ie. the ‘grease’ would have zero impact.

    In R2, AFTER THE WIPE-DOWN, GSP was hammering him from the guard.

    I’m still confused about the complains from BJ and his followers online. These are maybe the same people who think that Obama isn’t a US Citizen, or that the sun revolves around the earth…no amount of evidence will satisfy these people.

  13. Peter says:

    Hey, that’s a good one, BJ!

  14. Mr_Mike says:

    Nuthuggers, tools and, bitches, plus, somebody wanting BJ to suffer a destroyed elbow, or knee…ugh! What a thread.

    How many people on this blog actually study and, practice Judo, wrestling, BJJ, Muay, Boxing, etc?

    I remember reading an article on the underground forum about the style of BJJ that’s used by todays fighters, is based on sport BJJ, with lot’s of guard work, whearas the style practices by vale tudo fighters was more aggressive, with a top game emphasis. Vale Tudo fighters didn’t stay in the guard and, take punishment. On one of Mario Speery’s Vale Tudo DVDs, he suggests that when you have a guy in the guard during a real fight, you either hold him close, or kick him away. “Anything else is bullsh^$!”
    That seems to be a different philosophy than what BJ and, others have taken.

  15. jr says:

    BJ’s acting like Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.

  16. Kelvin says:

    There will be a lot of suicides if Penn loses this weekend.

  17. doem says:

    they just need to start random testing everyone.
    i imagine that would settle a lot of stuff real quick

  18. Alan Conceicao says:

    I wouldn’t call it irony. I just call it funny. I’m sure BJ’s impressed with the training; its probably the first time he’s ever exercised before a fight!

    :rimshot:

    Oh, seriously, BJ’s an incredible athlete. Amazing genetics. If they carry over, I’m sure we’ll find out. I heard Marv’s got BJ’s kid doing wind sprints 3 days a week! HEY-OH. I’ll be here all week.

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  20. James says:

    The MMA world has never seemed more like pro-wrestling marks than in dealing with BJ-GSP.

    BJ warned the NSAC that GSP would grease, the NSAC caught him greasing. It is illegal to grease.

    In every legit sport from Baseball to the NFL, excuses don’t cut it. You cheat, you are punished. B.J. was naive enough to expect justice when men are fighting for money.

    So Jackson says there is a Voodoo ritual. likely the same one Barry Bonds used to put on cream that he had NO IDEA was roids.

    B.J. lost to Hughes after dominating him and said he had an effed up rib, then he produced evidence that yes he had an effed up rib. Then he says his opponent is going to cheat, and he is caught doing it. Again, a claim proven true. Now he is pissed that justice wasnt served, as he should be. Excuses are only excuses to me, when they are hollow.

    So, GSP openly is caught violating a rule, and there is no punishment.
    Instead you have mark fans backing a face who claims voodoo innocence, while they claim B.J. is making excuses. You know, like voodoo ritual type excuses.

    GSP is the face, B.J. is the heel and no amount of facts or evidence will ever change that in the mind of a mark.

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