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By Zach Arnold | December 11, 2006
By Zach Arnold
First off, I want to thank everyone who has sent us e-mail so far for questions to answer on the radio show. Please keep sending in your mails. Thanks.
I guarantee that there will be at least one news link here that will either excite you, anger you, or annoy you. There’s a lot to chew on and a lot of discussion material. I was gone from the computer for a few hours and when I came back, I was flooded with tons of mails and messages. This has been a very busy day.
- Press Release: Showtime & Pro Elite will have press conference on Thursday in Hollywood to discuss their new MMA promotion
- MMA California: Josh “The Punk” Thomson suspended by Armando Garcia’s CSAC for wearing a t-shirt deemed offensive
- Sports Journalists: How entrenched are the American sports writers against MMA? Very. (this web site is a water cooler-type site where a lot of major writers hang out together)
- MMA Weekly: UFC buys out WEC
- UFC HP: UFC buys out the WFA
- IFL HP: Stephen Quadros on why MMA is the sport of the future
Marvin Eastman sends out a message in regards to UFC buying out WFA and what he thinks of the deal. Also, read Nick Lembo’s letter to the producers of 60 Minutes on CBS.
Mr. Eastman’s message:
“The UFC has purchased the WFA and it is posted on the UFC official web site. It states that they have bought the right to the show and it will now cease all operations. I was informed that Rampage and Matt Lindland contracts were the primary ones they wanted. So where does that leave all of the other fighters still under current contract with the WFA. Herring, Cope, Machida, Eastman, Miller, White, and Urijah Faber all in limbo with no idea what is going to happen next. Holla back if you know anything more. PS. MMA Weekly reports that UFC is also purchasing Scott Adams, WEC, so the monopology is started and I ain’t mad at the UFC. I just want to know what is up for my future, and now I don’t have a clue. I was planning on trying to get back to PRIDE, but UFC is OK too! The Beastman”
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To: 60 Minutes (CBS News )
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My name is Nick Lembo, I am the Counsel to the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board.
I found your program interesting and appreciated your coverage of a great sport,known as mixed martial arts. Your segments
including legends such as Renzo Gracie, Pat Miletich and Matt Hughes were fantastic.
However, I would like to address some issues surrounding Mr. Dana White and his limited role in creating rules currently in use in
the sport.
While Mr. White was in fact an aerobics instructor, and possibly an obscure amateur boxer, Mr. White did not set up the current rules in place for use in the sport.
Mr. White did not set up rules and regulations for today’s sport known as mixed martial arts. Simply put, the State of New
Jersey did. All Mr. White did was follow rules that were already set in place.
Mr. Larry Hazzard was the first major state athletic Commissioner to sanction modern day mixed martial arts. He should be
given due credit.
It should be noted that even before New Jersey sanctioned the sport, the California State Athletic Commission had prepared detailed rules to regulate mixed martial arts but they were not implemented solely due to governmental issues surrounding the budgeting process. These rules were based on rules developed in Quebec, Canada.
That being said, I think the current UFC has done great things for the mixed martial arts fan and the sport of mixed martial arts in the United States.
Please be advised that the previous owner of the UFC , Bob Meyrowitz, held UFC 28 in Atlantic City, NJ on November 17, 2000. This event was fully sanctioned by New Jersey while the UFC was an entity and a name owned by SEG. This event was held under strict oversight and was not “no holds barred”.
The UFC, under Mr. Meyrowitz, had already accepted, by virtue of staging that event in Atlantic City in November 2000, every below listed rule before Zuffa bought it. Accordingly, knees to the head of a downed opponent , certain elbow strikes, head butts, groin strikes and 20 other actions were already denoted as fouls that could result in disqualification. Additionally, weight classes, stringent medical requirements and strict regulatory oversight were in place at that time.
In fact, an entity unrelated to the UFC, SEG or Zuffa held a sanctioned event, under similar rules, in Atlantic City, prior to UFC
28, on September 30, 2000. This organization was known as the the IFC.
Many other rules and regulations were in place in the UFC itself even before New Jersey or California’s involvement, including
weight classes (added in 1997), multiple judges scoring a fight if it goes the distance (1995), doctors at ringside (1993), medical exams of fighters (1993), time limits (1995), gloves (1995), multiple timed rounds (1999), the banning of groin strikes (1994), and the ability of the referee to stop the fight (1994).
The notion that the previous owners of the UFC ran from regulation is factually incorrect. In fact, the previous owners tried
to get sanctioned in as many states as possible, and they did so in New Jersey, Louisiana, Iowa, and Mississippi. Also, the previous owners of the UFC formally sought sanctioning in the state of Nevada not long before selling the company, and they were unsuccessful in their efforts to get sanctioned in Nevada.
Mr. Ivan Trembow recently published the following, {According to the Wrestling Observer and with edits made in brackets to
fill in context or correct grammar, and with a timeline clarification courtesy of Whaledog.com: “Meyrowitz [former UFC president Bob Meyrowitz] would go to InDemand [the PPV company] and ask what he needed to do to get back on InDemand, and they said the UFC needed to get sanctioned [by a major sanctioning body]. He got sanctioned in New Jersey, and was basically told that he needed to get it sanctioned in Nevada, as that was the most influential athletic commission in the country. [Meyrowitz] set up a meeting in Las Vegas, and at the time, sanctioning was going to happen based on what inside sources were telling both Meyrowitz and InDemand. Suddenly, the night before the approval that was going to be the step to put the UFC back on the map, Meyrowitz was told that he was going to be voted down [the next day, when his request was scheduled to be voted on by the members of the Nevada State Athletic Commission]. He didn’t have the votes. He was also told that if he followed through the next day, and was voted down, he would never have an opportunity to be sanctioned. So, he pulled out, they created some cover reason as to why he was pulling his attempt at sanctioning, and basically he was screwed. Lorenzo Fertitta [the current co-owner of the UFC] was an influential member of the Nevada commission at the time. [Approximately one year later], Fertitta purchased the UFC
[for $2 million], then got sanctioning in Nevada, and then got on PPV.”}
To say that the previous owners of the UFC ran from regulation is no less of a falsehood than saying that the sport was
no-holds-barred before Mr. White gave up aerobics and became involved with the UFC.
Mixed martial arts websites and publications such as like Full Contact Fighter, ADCC News, Eddie Goldman’s NHB News ,Whaledog.com, MMAWeekly.com, WrestlingObserver.com, Ivansblog.com, and FightOpinion.com have done extensive articles covering Mr. White’s factually incorrect statements which have come to be kown as the “Zuffa Myth”.
In Clyde Gentry’s 2001 book on MMA, Mr. Fertitta, the owner of the UFC was quoted as stating that “Without Larry Hazzard and
the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board, this sport would still be dying a slow death.”
Please find the following language in our administrative proposal, written in 2001, regarding martial arts. “In past years, the
State Athletic Control Board ( SACB) had been hesitant to sanction mixed martial arts events due to the lack of formal rules in the sport which created health and safety concerns. For example, the sport generally did not divide contestants into weight classes, had contestants participate in several matches on the same evening and did not provide time limits on either round or bout length. However, in the last year or so,promoters of mixed martial arts events began to develop formal rules and regulations which included procedures to minimize the risk of injury to the contestant. After becoming aware that detailed regulations were now
in place for most mixed martial arts events, the SACB then began a course of communications with the California State Athletic Commission with regard to the subject of regulating mixed martial arts events. California has established rules and regulations for the conduct of the sport in their state. As of September 2000, the SACB began to allow mixed martial arts promoters to conduct events in New Jersey upon submission and review of their established rules and regulations. In addition, the promoters had to agree to incorporate the SACB’s medical testing and safety requirements. The intent was to allow the SACB to observe actual events and gather information needed to determine what would be necessary to establish a comprehensive set of rules to
effectively regulate the sport. On April 3, 2001, the SACB held a meeting in Trenton to discuss the regulation of mixed martial arts
events. This meeting was set up by SACB Commissioner Larry Hazzard, Sr. in an attempt to unify the myriad of rules and regulations which have been utilized by the different mixed martial arts organizations. At this meeting, the proposed uniform rules were agreed upon by the SACB, several other regulatory bodies, numerous promoters of mixed martial arts events and other interested parties in attendance. The meeting was quite comprehensive and lasted over three hours. At the conclusion of the meeting, all parties in attendance were able to agree upon a uniform set of rules to govern the sport of mixed martial arts. In recent months, other states, including Nevada, have begun to sanction mixed martial arts events based upon the SACB’s regulatory framework which arose at the conclusion of the April meeting. The SACB anticipates that this proposal will result in uniform rules for mixed martial arts events held throughout the United States. In a similar sense, in March of 1998, the SACB proposed uniform rules for the conduct of championship professional boxing matches. Since the proposal, these rules for
championship rules have become the norm throughout the country.
SUBCHAPTER 24A; MIXED MARTIAL ARTS UNIFORM RULES
13:46-24A.1 Weight classes of mixed martial artists
(a) Mixed martial artists shall be divided into the following classes:
1.Flyweight under 125.9 pounds;
2.Bantamweight 126 lbs. – 134.9 pounds;
3.Featherweight 135 lbs. – 144.9 pounds;
4.Lightweight 145 lbs. – 154.9 pounds;
5.Welterweight 155 lbs. – 169.9 pounds;
6.Middleweight 170 lbs. – 184.9 pounds;
7.Light Heavyweight 185 lbs. – 204.9 pounds;
8.Heavyweight 204 lbs. – 264.9 pounds; and
9.Super Heavyweight over 265 pounds.
13:46-24A.2 Fighting area
(a) The fighting area canvas shall be no smaller than 18 feet by 18 feet and no larger than 32 feet by 32 feet. The fighting area
canvas shall be padded in a manner as approved by the Commissioner, with at least one inch layer of foam padding. Padding shall extend beyond the fighting area and over the edge of the platform. No vinyl or other plastic rubberized covering shall be permitted.
(b) The fighting area canvas shall not be more than four feet above the floor of the building and shall have suitable steps or ramp
for use by the participants. Posts shall be made of metal not more than six inches in diameter, extending from the floor of the building to a minimum height of 58 inches above the fighting area canvas and shall be properly padded in a manner approved by the Commissioner.
(c) The fighting area canvas area shall be enclosed by a fence made of such material as will not allow a fighter to fall out or break
through it onto the floor or spectators, including, but not limited to, vinyl coated chain link fencing. All metal parts shall be covered and padded in a manner approved by the Commissioner and shall not be abrasive to the contestants.
(d) The fence shall provide two separate entries onto the fighting area canvas.
13:46-24A.3 Stools
(a) A ring stool of a type approved by the Commissioner shall be available for each contestant.
(b) An appropriate number of stools or chairs, of a type approved by the Commissioner, shall be available for each contestant’s
seconds. Such stools or chairs shall be located near each contestant’s corner.
(c) All stools and chairs used must be thoroughly cleaned or replaced after the conclusion of each bout.
13:46-24A.4 Equipment
For each bout, the promoter shall provide a clean water bucket and a clean plastic water bottle in each corner.
13:46-24A.5 Specifications for bandages on mixed martial artist’s hands
(a) In all weight classes, the bandages on each contestant’s hand shall be restricted to soft gauze cloth not more than 13 yards in length and two inches in width, held in place by not more than 10 feet of surgeon’s tape, one inch in width, for each hand.
(b) Surgeon’s adhesive tape shall be placed directly on each hand for protection near the wrist. The tape may cross the back of the hand twice and extend to cover and protect the knuckles when the hand is clenched to make a fist.
(c) The bandages shall be evenly distributed across the hand.
(d) Bandages and tape shall be placed on the contestant’s hands in the dressing room in the presence of the inspector and in the
presence of the manager or chief second of his or her opponent. \
(e) Under no circumstances are gloves to be placed on the hands of a contestant until the approval of the inspector is received.
13:46-24A.6 Mouth pieces
(a) All contestants are required to wear a mouthpiece during competition. The mouthpiece shall be subject to examination and
approval by the attending physician.
(b) The round cannot begin without the mouthpiece in place.
(c) If the mouthpiece is involuntarily dislodged during competition, the referee shall call time, clean the mouthpiece and
reinsert the mouthpiece at the first opportune moment, without interfering with the immediate action.
13:46-24A.7 Protective equipment
(a) Male mixed martial artists shall wear a groin protector of their own selection, of a type approved by the Commissioner.
(b) Female mixed martial artists are prohibited from wearing groin protectors.
(c) Female mixed martial artists shall wear a chest protector during competition. The chest protector shall be subject to approval
of the Commissioner.
13:46-24A.8 Gloves
(a) The gloves shall be new for all main events and in good condition or they must be replaced.
(b) All contestants shall wear either four, five or six ounce gloves, supplied by the promoter and approved by the commission. No
contestant shall supply their own gloves for participation.
13:46-24A.9 Apparel
(a) Each contestant shall wear mixed martial arts shorts, biking shorts, or kick-boxing shorts.
(b) Gi’s or shirts are prohibited during competition.
(c) Shoes are prohibited during competition.
13:46-24A.10 Appearance
(a) All contestants shall be cleanly shaven immediately prior to competition, except that a contestant may wear a closely cropped
mustache.
(b) Hair shall be trimmed or tied back in such a manner as not to interfere with the vision of either contestant or cover any part of
a contestant’s face.
(c) Jewelry or piercing accessories are prohibited during competition.
13:46-24A.11 Round length
(a) Each non-championship mixed martial arts contest shall be three rounds, of five minutes duration, with a one minute rest period between each round.
(b) Each championship mixed martial arts contest shall be five rounds, of five minutes duration, with a one minute rest period
between each round.
13:46-24A.12 Stopping a contest
The referee and ringside physician are the sole arbiters of a bout and are the only individuals authorized to enter the fighting
area at any time during competition and authorized to stop a contest.
13:46-24A.13 Judging
(a) All bouts will be evaluated and scored by three judges.
(b) The 10-Point Must System will be the standard system of scoring a bout. Under the 10-Point Must Scoring System, 10 points must be awarded to the winner of the round and nine points or less must be awarded to the loser, except for a rare even round, which is scored (10-10).
(c) Judges shall evaluate mixed martial arts techniques, such as effective striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area,
effective aggressiveness and defense.
(d) Evaluations shall be made in the order in which the techniques appear in (c) above, giving the most weight in scoring to
effective striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area and effective aggressiveness and defense.
(e) Effective striking is judged by determining the total number of legal heavy strikes landed by a contestant.
(f) Effective grappling is judged by considering the amount of successful executions of a legal takedown and reversals. Examples of factors to consider are take downs from standing position to mount position, passing the guard to mount position, and bottom position fighters using an active, threatening guard.
(g) Fighting area control is judged by determining who is dictating the pace, location and position of the bout. Examples of
factors to consider are countering a grappler’s attempt at takedown by remaining standing and legally striking ; taking down an opponent to force a ground fight; creating threatening submission attempts, passing the guard to achieve mount, and creating striking opportunities.
(h) Effective aggressiveness means moving forward and landing a legal strike.
(i) Effective defense means avoiding being struck, taken down or reversed while countering with offensive attacks.
(j) The following objective scoring criteria shall be utilized by the judges when scoring a round;
1. A round is to be scored as a 10-10 Round when both contestants appear to be fighting evenly and neither contestant shows
clear dominance in a round;
2. A round is to be scored as a 10-9 Round when a contestant wins by a close margin, landing the greater number of effective legal strikes, grappling and other maneuvers;
3. A round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.
4. A round is to be scored as a 10-7 Round when a contestant totally dominates by striking or grappling in a round.
(k) Judges shall use a sliding scale and recognize the length of time the fighters are either standing or on the ground, as follows:
1. If the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round on the canvas, then:
i. Effective grappling is weighed first; and
ii. Effective striking is then weighed
2. If the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round standing, then:
1. Effective striking is weighed first; and
2. Effective grappling is then weighed
3. If a round ends with a relatively even amount of standing and canvas fighting, striking and grappling are weighed equally.
13:46-24A.14 Warnings
(a) The referee shll issue a single warning for the following infractions. After the initial warning, if the prohibited conduct persists, a penalty will be issued. The penalty may result in a deduction of points or disqualification.
1. Holding or grabbing the fence;
2. Holding opponent’s shorts or gloves; or
3. The presence of more than one second on the fighting area perimeter.
13:46-24A.15 Fouls
(a) The following are fouls and will result in penalties if committed:
1. Butting with the head;
2. Eye gouging of any kind;
3. Biting or spitting at an opponent;
4. Hair pulling;
5. Fish hooking;
6. Groin attacks of any kind;
7. Intentionally placing a finger in any opponent’s orifice;
8. Downward pointing of elbow strikes;
9. Small joint manipulation;
10. Strikes to the spine or back of the head;
11. Heel kicks to the kidney;
12. Throat strikes of any kind;
13. Clawing, pinching, twisting the flesh or grabbing the clavicle;
14. Kicking the head of a grounded fighter;
15. Kneeing the head of a grounded fighter;
16. Stomping of a grounded fighter;
17. The use of abusive language in fighting area;
18. Any unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to opponent;
19. Attacking an opponent on or during the break;
20. Attacking an opponent who is under the referee’s care at the time;
21. Timidity (avoiding contact, or consistent dropping of mouthpiece, or faking an injury);
22. Interference from a mixed martial artists seconds;
23. Throwing an opponent out of the fighting area;
24. Flagrant disregard of the referee’s instructions;
25. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his or her head or neck.
(b) Disqualification occurs after any combination of three or the fouls listed in (a) above or after a referee determines that a
foul was intentional and flagrant.
(c) Fouls will result in a point being deducted by the official scorekeeper from the offending mixed martial artist’s score.
(d) Only a referee can assess a foul. If the referee does not call the foul, judges shall not make that assessment on their own and
cannot factor such into their scoring calculations.
(e) A fouled fighter has up to five minutes to recuperate.
(f) If a foul is committed, the referee shall:
1. call time;
2. check the fouled mixed martial artist’s condition and safety; and
3. assess the foul to the offending contestant, deduct points, and notify each corner’s seconds, judges and the official scorekeeper.
g) If a bottom contestant commits a foul, unless the top contestant is injured, the fight shall continue, so as not to jeopardize
the top contestant’s superior positioning at the time.
1. The referee shall verbally notify the bottom contestant of the foul.
2. When the round is over, the referee shall assess the foul and notify both corners’ seconds, the judges and the official scorekeeper.
3. The referee may terminate a bout based on the severity of a foul. For such a flagrant foul, a contestant shall lose by disqualification.
13:46-24A.16 Injuries sustained during competition
(a) If an injury sustained during competition as a result of a legal maneuver is severe enough to terminate a bout, the injured contestant loses by technical knockout.
(b) If an injury sustained during competition as a result of an intentional foul is severe enough to terminate a bout, the contestant
causing the injury loses by disqualification.
(c) If an injury is sustained during competition as a result of an intentional foul and the bout is allowed to continue, the referee
shall notify the scorekeeper to automatically deduct two points from the contestant who committed the foul.
(d) If an injury sustained during competition as a result of an intentional foul causes the injured contestant to be unable to
continue at a subsequent point in the contest, the injured contestant shall win by technical decision, if he or she is ahead on the score cards. If the injured contestant is even or behind on the score cards at the time ofstoppage, the outcome of the bout shall be declared a technical draw.
(e) If a contestant injures himself or herself while attempting to foul his or her opponent, the referee shall not take any action in
his or her favor, and the injury shall be treated in the same manner as an injury produced by a fair blow.
(f) If an injury sustained during competition as a result of an accidental foul is severe enough for the referee to stop the bout
immediately, the bout shall result in a no contest if stopped before two rounds have been completed in a three round bout or if stopped before three rounds have been completed in a five round bout.
(g) If an injury sustained during competition as a result of an accidental foul is severe enough for the referee to stop the bout
immediately, the bout shall result in a technical decision awarded to the contestant who is ahead on the score cards at the time the bout is stopped only when the bout is stopped after two rounds of a three round bout, or three rounds of a five round bout have been completed.
(h) There will be no scoring of an incomplete round. However, if the referee penalizes either contestant, then the appropriate points shall be deducted when the scorekeeper calculates the final score.
13:46-24A.17 Types of Bout Results
(a) The following are the types of bout results:
1. Submission by:
i. Tap Out:When a contestant physically uses his hand to indicate that he or she no longer wishes to continue; or
ii. Verbal tap out:When a contestant verbally announces to the referee that he or she does not wish to continue;
2. Technical knockout by:
i. Referee stops bout;
ii. Ringside physician stops bout; or
iii. When an injury as a result of a legal maneuver is severe enough to terminate a bout;
3. Knockout by failure to rise from the canvas;
4. Decision via score cards:
i. Unanimous: When all three judges score the bout for the same contestant;
ii. Split Decision: When two judges score the bout for one contestant and one judge scores for the opponent; or
iii. Majority Decision: When two judges score the bout for thesame contestant and one judge scores a draw;
5. Draws:
i. Unanimous – When all three judges score the bout a draw;
ii. Majority – When two judges score the bout a draw; or
iii. Split – When all three judges score differently and the score total results in a draw;
6. Disqualification:When an injury sustained during competition as a result of an intentional foul is severe enough to terminate the
contest;
7. Forfeit:When a contestant fails to begin competition or prematurely ends the contest for reasons other than injury or by
indicating a tap out;
8. Technical Draw: When an injury sustained during competition as a result of an intentional foul causes the injured contestant to be unable to continue and the injured contestant is even or behind on the score cards at the time of stoppage;
9. Technical Decision:When the bout is prematurely stopped due to injury and a contestant is leading on the score cards; and
10. No Contest:When a contest is prematurely stopped due to accidental injury and a sufficient number of rounds have not been
completed to render a decision via the score cards.
SUBCHAPTER 24B ADDITIONAL MIXED MARTIAL ARTS RULES
13:46-24B.1 Licensing
(a) All mixed martial arts events shall be subject to the licensing requirements of N.J.A.C. 13:46-4.
(b) The fee for a mixed martial artist license shall be as set forth in N.J.A.C. 13:46-4.25(b). Other license fees shall be as set
forth in N.J.A.C. 13:46-4.25(a).
13:46-24B.2 Bond procedure
All mixed martial arts events shall be subject to the bond procedure requirements of N.J.A.C.13:46-4.8.
13:46-24B.3 Inspectors
All mixed martial arts events shall be subject to the presence, duties and compensation of inspectors as required by N.J.A.C. 13:46-9.
13:46-24B.4 Health and safety rules
(a) All mixed martial arts events shall be subject to the uniform medical requirements of N.J.A.C. 13:46-12A.
(b) All mixed martial arts events shall be subject to the additional health and safety requirements of N.J.A.C. 13:46-12B.
(c) All mixed martial arts events shall be subject to the emergency medical facilities and equipment requirements of N.J.A.C.
13:46-2.8.
(d) All mixed martial arts events shall be subject to the insurance requirements of N.J.A.C. 13:46-14.
13:46-24B.5 Weighing of mixed martial artists
(a) Weighing of all mixed martial artists shall be conducted in accordance with the requirements for professional boxers of N.J.A.C.
13:46-1A.3.
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“While Mr. White was in fact an aerobics instructor, and possibly an obscure amateur boxer, Mr. White did not set up the current rules in place for use in the sport.”
Very classy.
Why do people keep harping on this? New Jersey created the rules, we get it. The UFC certainly adopted the rules, and was instrumental in getting MMA sanctioned in several states. Can’t we all just get along?
I’m sure no one would be harping on it and be able to get along if a certain party (re: UFC/Zuffa/White) wouldn’t continually LIE and claim they created the rules to all mainstream media.
Those sports journalists are morons.
So when’s the ufc coming back to atlantic city….
I love that guy.
I would be interested in learning more about the quebec rules though.
I can’t wait for the showtime announcement. I will be interested in seing if they are going to build up fighters or just try to make already big fights happen.
According to MMAWeekly.com, Quinton Jackson & Heath Herring were at least 2 of the fighters the UFC acquired. To me, these are the most important 2. Quinton sets up a great future title fight. And Herring helps strengthen a weak UFC Heavyweight Division.
Great job Zuffa.
Heath Herring to UFC!! Finally, someone who can knock the shit out of Tim Sylvia and finally make Heavyweight PPV Main Events worth buying. Also I would like to see a Quinton-Liddell rematch in the cage.
I don’t want to sound like an ass, but you have MMA California for the Josh Thompson story, yet all they did was take it from Dave Meltzer’s site. Why not just link to his site since he actually reported it?
Why is it ok for Tito to wear his t-shirts and the CSAC shits all over Thompson for wearing his shirt? (I realize NSAC vs. CSAC – but lets get serious)
You sound like an ass. The MMA CA site clearly credits Meltzer.
Hey Zach. Can we sick Eddie Goldman on those so called jurnos? Can we? Can we? Can we?
I had the URL sent to me in an e-mail. I haven’t even read the broadsheet papers yet, so I posted the MMA CA link. I hope I didn’t make anyone mad.
My workload is way over the top right now. I am going to need to recruit some help.
Mike Says:
December 11th, 2006 at 8:47 pm
You sound like an ass. The MMA CA site clearly credits Meltzer.
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I was not criticizing MMA CA, I was merely asking why Fight Opinion linked to MMA CA and not the original source, which was the Wrestling Observer.
I’m not a fan of cut-and-paste posts, but in this MMA CA post, Erin did reference the one MMA-related item of news value out of an entirely big news post that had a ton of different news items that could get lost in the shuffle.
I think people need to relax. Why are you all over Zach b/c he posted a link to a site that ultimately credits the original report???
Zach : If you teach me how you sniff out the mainstream links, i’ll happily help you compile your link posts.
Send me an e-mail and I’ll show how you I (try to anyway) accomplish it.
I think some are misunderstanding what I meant. I was not attacking Zach, I just asked why the MMA CA was used instead of the Observer link that was in the MMA CA piece.
I have no problem with any of it, Zach does a great job here, I was just asking a question. Zach answered it, no problem.
The only reason I posted a second comment was because somebody called me an ass.
Zach, Fight Opinion is a great site. I appreciate it and all of the work that goes into it.
Ugh, Thomson gets suspended for a wearing an “offensive” T-Shirt? I thought you guys had freedom of speech over there, so why in the green hell is Garcia able to pull that off? And I wonder what he’d call the shirts over at tshirthell.com, if he thinks that “Frank Glamrock is my bitch” is offensive…
Herring, the guy who went the distance with Gan McGee, had trouble with “the giant” and didn’t even make it out of the starting gate for his last two non-fights against no-bodies, is going to beat up Sylvia?
Where will the Texas crazy horse crash next?
Glue factory….
Zuffa is on a spending spree, buying up a lot of unsold junk products to keep them from ending up in someone else’s junk drawer.
Alberto Gonzales or Garcia should be fired. The matter of shirts is an expression of the owners personal taste in style, plus the monetary agreements between them and their sponsors.