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Report: Shane Mosley accused of doping
By Zach Arnold | September 28, 2007
The report comes from Sports Illustrated. Reaction to the story at Eastside Boxing. Mosley is scheduled to fight Miguel Cotto on 11/10.
Update: Golden Boy Promotions responds.
Update II: The tone has changed with Mosley:
“Sugar” Shane Mosley says he is a “health-freak-type of guy” who had no idea that what he took for a few weeks in the fall of 2003 were the BALCO designer steroids “the clear” and “the cream,” which he said he was pressured to take by his former strength and conditioning coach.
In an interview with ESPN.com Friday, the former three-division world champion said: “Unknowingly, yes, some of the substances they are talking about, were being used as part of the workouts. I didn’t know what the hell it was,” Mosley said from Big Bear, Calif., where he is training for a Nov. 10 fight with welterweight titleholder Miguel Cotto.
Mosley’s comments on Friday night are contradictory to what his father said Friday afternoon on Fight Network Radio (audio here).
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Oh boy…… Dammit Shane! I was counting on you to do great against Cotto! Man, people in sports will never learn, I swear…
Whatever- they can’t prove he used it via testing at this point, and I have yet to see anyone “associated” with Balco actually face legal penalities. PR speedbump- nothing more.
I read the ESPN article… Not sure if it is the same as the SI one.
Either way, the NSAC comes off poorly in this case for not testing for EPO.
Sadly, too many athletes are getting busted for this stuff…..
Shane Mosley being part of the BALCO investigation was revealed seriously like two-three years ago.
The NSAC does not test for EPO because they don’t think combat athletes would take it? That’s what it says in the SI article, and that is among the more ridiculous things I have heard in a long time.
Given that the “other” explanation would be that the NSAC does not test for EPO because they DO think combat athletes take it, I’m willing to accept that they probably didn’t think about it.
Why wouldn’t a boxer or MMA fighter not take that stuff? It gives them super cardio….
I have a feeling within the next 3 years… Due to all the media pressure…. All of the athletic commissions and major sports leagues will be testing for EPO & HGH….
[quote]Why wouldn’t a boxer or MMA fighter not take that stuff? It gives them super cardio….[/quote]
Because EPO is so enormously costly to use and to test for, there’s no way that any of the minnows are using it, and that testing is expensive for such a waste. That’s the honest truth.
I admittedly don’t know all of the details on the costs of EPO…..
I would have figured that the testing for it would have been relatively cheap since they do it in cycling basically all the time.
Old news, really. Mosley and Jones Jr. were both linked to BALCO way back when.
And yeah, testing for EPO is a hassle. It is expensive, and even the most sophisticated urine tests for EPO suck and can’t prove any real non super recent use.
I would have figured that the testing for it would have been relatively cheap since they do it in cycling basically all the time.
It’s a urinalysis, so it costs the same as testing for anabolic agents. It’s extremely easy to beat the tests for EPO, though. Microdosing and holding on injections 5-6 days out from the test(s) will render it untraceable. Drinking a TON of water right before a blood test (does the athletic commission do blood tests?) will also significantly lower your haemotocrit levels to whatever the acceptable level is (unless it’s something extreme, like 35 – but it wouldn’t be). That’s how it’s done in cycling. The teams send the cleanest guy to the doping controls first, and let their top riders (who are also using the most drugs and have the highest haemotocrit levels) to chug water and get an IV or two while they wait.
“(does the athletic commission do blood tests?)”
Therein lies another problem. They don’t, and you can’t even just do the urinalysis. I think there’s some kind of legal precedent with some female athlete getting charges of blood doping thrown out because even though her urinalysis came back weird, she wasn’t blood tested, or some wacky loophole like that.
And here’s a quote from Keith Kizer on the potential of blood testing:
“I can’t see taking blood out of a guy before he gets in the ring. Even after, it’s not the most hygienic place back there. Whether we’d require a blood-test to be submitted, they’d have to give a blood-test and submit it with their licensing, like a fighter who’s had an issue before. There’s always that possibility.”
If you want to do it “right” then you have to do blood testing, and you have to do it randomly, year round, for all your guys under contract.
No commission has the authority to do that, and no promotion would be an independent trustworthy source of testing and reporting.
This is one place where I think Eddie Goldman is right, you have to get an independent, quasi-governmental organization to do the testing and reporting. It has to be one that is international, because you’re doing international events.
You NEED bloodtesting and that’s why all of these guys are getting away with it!
EPO and HGH are most easily detected by blood testing, but there’s so much friction b/c of the whole “invasiveness” of the testing.
EPO and HGH are most easily detected by blood testing, but there’s so much friction b/c of the whole “invasiveness” of the testing.
There is currently no test for HGH – urine or blood – available. They’re trying to make an HGH blood test happen for the Beijing olympics, though.
“There is currently no test for HGH – urine or blood – available. They’re trying to make an HGH blood test happen for the Beijing olympics, though.”
Not true. WADA has been using a blood based HGH test since 2004.
Nevermind, I found a few sources. That’s interesting. I wonder why it hasn’t been implemented on a larger scale in cycling and other sports. Probably because it’s ridiculously expensive.
Cycling lives off of drugs. It’s a sport that’s so entirely corrupt…
Cycling has repeatedly rejected WADA’s offers to run it’s anti-doping programs. I believe that they MAY have just recently come to an accord, but it’s the fact that cycling has been “policing itself” that is the reason that their efforts have been entirely fruitless.
I find it funny that Bonds, Sheffield, & Mosley had absolutely no idea what they were taking. Yes Jason Giambi knew EXACTLY what he was taking and for what reasons.
Athletes at this level know everything they put into their system.
He is saying he took it because there is no way to deny it. His only out is by saying he didn’t know what it was. But he is full of it.
“I find it funny that Bonds, Sheffield, & Mosley had absolutely no idea what they were taking. Yes Jason Giambi knew EXACTLY what he was taking and for what reasons.
Athletes at this level know everything they put into their system.”
Absolutely correct.
“Nevermind, I found a few sources. That’s interesting. I wonder why it hasn’t been implemented on a larger scale in cycling and other sports. Probably because it’s ridiculously expensive.”
Actually Dick Pound told me that it’s relatively inexpensive and could be easily implemented. But there is the whole ethics and invasiveness of the testing etc. that seems to be standing in the way. I’m sure that and the great friction from athletes against implementing the testing.