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Donovan Craig of Fight! Magazine: Fedor vs. Brock Lesnar would be a 30-second fight
By Zach Arnold | June 16, 2010
From an hour-long radio discussion last week between Donovan Craig of Fight! Magazine and Eddie Goldman, the two men spent some time talking about Fedor Emelianenko’s future and what would happen if he fought in the UFC. Donovan believes that Fedor vs. Brock Lesnar would turn out the same way Fedor vs. Tim Sylvia did in Affliction.
DONOVAN CRAIG: “I think… it’s not necessarily you know (Shane) Carwin or Lesnar or those guys, but like, what about say for example a Junior dos Santos vs. Fedor? I think that guy could be the wild card in that whole division and he’s actually not the biggest but because of his speed and his ability to let his hands go.”
EDDIE GOLDMAN: “I haven’t watched too many of his fights, I’m proud to say, because of the company that he fights in. But I just think that Fedor has found a way, even after he gets battered around a little bit, even by Choi Hong-Man the big (South) Korean, he got banged up, you looked at his face after that, he’s found a way to beat everybody. The question is at what point does he start to slow down? At what point are their conditioning issues because people have raised that question before. We don’t know that. Eventually, that’s going to happen, but maybe he’ll retire before then but I don’t think he’s afraid of anybody. I don’t know that a guy like Brock Lesnar has the skills because I think that he may be bigger and stronger, but I don’t know that if he gets taken down, Fedor’s just not going to sit there and eat punches and on the ground he’s far better than a Frank Mir in terms of getting submission. And again, anybody could knock him out, that’s certainly a possibility. I just think it would have to be someone with professional boxing-level skills and I don’t think there are too many guys like that at this point in MMA in the Heavyweights.”
DONOVAN CRAIG: “I think Lesnar and Fedor is another 30-second fight. I think Lesnar is, I think anybody who goes out there and throws at him is going to quickly knock him out. Fedor’s going to, not anyone, but I think Fedor would. Like I always have thought that Fedor would walk through Randy Couture, you know, I think that Lesnar does not match up well against him. Now, Carwin, dos Santos, maybe a different story. But, you know, another point to bring up about Fedor is you’re saying he’s taking these beatings, sometimes that catches up with you. Look at [Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira], you know, he was you know so famous for having you know this great chin and you know being this warrior that takes one too many and he gets in the ring and becomes old as the saying goes, you see that with boxers sometimes and you can’t take that punishment and then not you know take a toll on your body and it seems to just happen suddenly a lot of times in fighters, you know they’re fine and dominant you know one match and the next time they come in and they’ve suddenly you know the physical toll has started to show so, who knows when that will happen.”
EDDIE GOLDMAN: “And Fedor is fighting less frequently because I wonder if one of the problems also that came up between M-1 Global and Strikeforce was also a way to buy them more time for having him fight that frequently because he did get beaten up in the Brett Rogers fight and he ended up winning that fight.”
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Randy Couture knocked down Tim Sylvia within 30 seconds of their fight as well. Brock is about a billion times more athletic than Sylvia and he would’nt try to stand with Fedor either, the likes of Coleman have put Fedor on his back and Brock is much bigger and has better top control.
Can the internet revisit this after the guy who has one fight in the last 18 months actually steps in the ring and beats someone? Especially since he’s schedule to fight the best fighter he’s ever faced? Thanks.
Because, like it or not, Lesnar is the biggest star in the sport. He may or may not be the best fighter, but he is without a doubt the biggest star and nobody else is even remotely close.
Him being a big star is fine. The problem is making assertions about what would happen when he fights Fedor. I don’t care if you think Lesnar wins in 30 seconds or that Fedor wins in 30 seconds. Lesnar’s level of activity has been terrible for the last year and a half. He could come in very rusty and get touched early in this comeback fight he’s having in a couple weeks.
Honestly, I’d be more comfortable with people making guesses on Carwin/Fedor. At least we’ve seen Carwin fight recently.
“I haven’t watched too many of his fights, I’m proud to say, because of the company that he fights in.”
WTF?
Why is Eddie proud to say he hasn’t watched a guy fight based on who his promoter is? Is he a fight fan or just a fan of certain promoters?
Eddie is ridiculously embittered to the point of having no objectivity whatsoever when it comes to Zuffa. He doesn’t really make any bones about it, but it’s bad enough that it can be off-putting, and I’m pretty much a Zuffa hater myself.
It’s a long story. In a nutshell, Eddie was the golden boy journalist of the SEG-era UFC since he was one of the few people with an outlet who wanted to discuss it. Then when Zuffa bought the company they didn’t give him any special treatment and he got pissed off and turned on the company, claiming they ruined MMA, promote “an anti-social lifestyle” (whatever that means), and are too pro wrestling-centric in their promotion (which isn’t untrue.) So any non-UFC MMA group he thinks is the greatest thing in the history of the world, but even when UFC does some great work he craps all over them for no real reason other than they jilted him.
And I want to shove Eddie Goldman in the face of all of the Zuffa Zealot idiots when they rant and rave about “UFC Haters” because they don’t cream themselves over everything Dana does and actually respect fighters who work for other promotions. THIS is what a real irrational UFC hater looks like. Listen. Observe. And please shut up about everyone else (you four know who you are.)
“…any non-UFC MMA group he thinks is the greatest thing in the history of the world…”
His praise of how great YAMMA was had to be his worst moment. He deflected any criticism levelled at the show with an argument that the fans in attendance were pleased by the show and “that’s all that really matters.” If someone tried arguing that about a UFC show with him, he’d call BS.
Yes that was hilarious. Also the butt-kissing session with Meyrowitz to hype the show made me want to gag.
Another one of his hilarious moments was, while going on one of his “UFC promotes an anti-social lifestyle” because fighters insult each other to hype fights, he holds up MUHAMMAD ALI as what a sportsman fighter should be. Muhammad Ali, the guy who innovated trash talking in professional sports.
And if you read Wrestling Observer back issues in the premium site archives, you can find letters from Goldman doing the same deal he does about Dana being so horrible with Vince McMahon and pretending like WCW (I’m talking early 90s Jim Herd and Bill Watts WCW) is the greatest thing ever.
Thanks for enlightening me. Interesting stuff.
Eddie Goldman is an embarrassment. I don’t even pay attention to him anymore.
He hasn’t been relevant in several years. And it’s a shame because he used to be a pretty good journalist.
Now he’s just a hack that hates the UFC and champions any obscure group he can find. He’s the worst kind of yellow journalist. Even worse than Loretta Hunt, if that’s possible.
Isn’t Fedor vs Lesnar basically going to be Lesnar takes him down, stifles him and GnPs him?
Then it simply comes down to whether or not Fedor can catch him in a submission. I’m not optimistic of Fedor’s chances after seeing Rogers on top of him, putting him in considerable danger.
Maybe. But we haven’t seen Lesnar get his chin tested yet since he hasn’t fought a true top notch striker until his fight with Carwin. If he can absorb a big Carwin shot, then that would be something.
Fedor is also a LOT slicker on the ground than Frank Mir. His transitions are incredibly quick for a 230 pound man. You give him half an inch and the next thing you know, he’s ripping your arm off.
He has also struggled with large guys when they get on top of him in Hunt & Rogers and neither of those guys have any wrestling experience at all.
Fedor would start off the favourite but Lesnar certainly has the tools to beat him
Lets be honest here,…on all levels:
1) Fedor has tons more experience then Brock. That absolutely counts for something.
2) Fedor is much more well rounded then Brock is. He has mastered, Judo, Sambo, Wrestling, Boxing… hell, the few times he has thrown kicks, almost always at legs, they were pretty damn stiff! Remember when he kicked Kazuyuki Fujita in the liver? He rocked him. Remeber Stephan Quadoros exclamation after seeing the replay? “We didn’t even know Fedor could kick!”
3)Fedor’s power and durability are extremely unusual. How does he hit so hard? How is he so strong? How is he so accurate with his strikes? And his balance, its not ust his power that keeps him on his feet?
How had he take such strong strikes? How did he recover so quick from the German Suplex Kevin Randleman hit him with, let alone remain concious?
Fedor’s ability & skills defy logic. He is an exception to so many rules, it’s baffling.
HOWEVER…
3) Fedor, however, is not in his prime. If he was now where he was 7 or 8 years ago, I would give him a much better chance.
4) Even though not fighting as often save his body from taking punishment, he is also probably not as sharp. being in shape and in fighting shape are two differnt things.
5) Brock is also an exception. How many have his power and speed?
6) Brock is younger, and while having much less experince, his body has much less ring wear.
7) Brock seems to be truely attempting to learn more skills. We’ve seen him kick a bag, and it is scary,…but he hasn’t tried to throw a low kick during a fight yet. The first time he does, I bet it will be jaw-dropping.
8) Brock’s boxing skill has improved dramaticly. He sometimes still “throws for the fences” but does so much less, as he has become much more patient during his fights.
Now I could go on about how Brock’s muscle could work against him the longer the fight goes, what would happen if Brock decides to add some throws & slams in his fights, etc. Lets just say until it happens, it is all just speculation.
Who would I LIKE to see win?
Me, personally,… Fedor. I enjoy his fights much more.
He does a great deal more then just try to smother his opponents like Brock does. I’m not really knocking Brock as much as some might think (other then the fact that he has had some chances to try submissions and even slams, but has never tried,…maybe he’ll suprise me) because he is beating some of the best in the world.
But I’d love to see Fedor knock his head into the fourth row. I’d love to see him make Brock tap out. I’d love to see him reverse a take down attempt.
Fedor is not only a better athletic representative for the sport of MMA in the ring/cage, he is much more humble, so I beleive he is also a much better ambassador for the sport as well.
Brock is 10 months younger than Fedor. Brock was born July 12th, 1977. Fedor was born September 26th, 1976. That means nothing.
And while he hasn’t been rocked in MMA fights like Fedor, he did pro wrestle for 5 years which means he has had some concussions. And don’t forget the “shooting star press” botch from Wrestlemania 19 that hurt his neck and knocked him out. He was so out of it he was freaking out backstage at EMTs, that can’t be good for the brain.
Punching bags don’t move or fight back. Wrestlers aren’t big on leg kicks either, so I don’t think he plans on doing much but takedowns. That’s not a bad thing, you should work at your strength. But just because he trains at something doesn’t mean he’ll do it. He trains in BJJ as well, but I doubt he’ll ever attempt a Gogo.
How do you know this? Are you hanging out with him at training camp? His last fight had him 98% laying on top of Mir and occasionally ground n pounding. Where did you see this improved boxing and patience?
Oh brother, here we go:
“Brock is 10 months younger than Fedor. Brock was born July 12th, 1977. Fedor was born September 26th, 1976. That means nothing.”
Yes. On this, you are correct, 100%. I cannot deny that I’m wrong on this one.
“Punching bags don’t move or fight back.”
Gee, thanks for the news flash, I would have never known had you not pointed this out.
Come on. If you want to make a point, you can do much better then this,…I’ve SEEN you do it, even if I don’t agree with you.
What did I ever say that gave the indication that a bag is like fighter on upper tier (or even curtain jerker) fighter?
“… he did pro wrestle for 5 years which means he has had some concussions.”
I didn’t forget.
My turn to say “how do you know?”
How do you know he had concussions?
I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. but you make it sound like “he was a pro wrestler, so he automatically has “X” number of concussions.”
“And don’t forget the “shooting star press”…”
How could ANYBODY who saw that forget?
“He trains in BJJ as well, but I doubt he’ll ever attempt a Gogo.”
THIS coment is just beyond stupid.
I don’t even know you and expect a better retort then THIS.
Bob Sapp, while not in the same league as an athlete as Brock, was the same way- trained to throw leg kicks and knees. He didn’t do it for a very long time, but he did eventually. And Brock throws them much better the Sapp ever did in training camp.
It was a comment about something he can add to his move set in the ring.
Plain and simple,…which means you should understand that without explanation.
“How do you know this? Are you hanging out with him at training camp?”
Yes,…yes I do. As a matter of fact, I had lunch with him the other day………
NO,I DON’T.
And I was being serious,…about the “no” part.
I just want you to be sure you understand it since it is a “plain and simple” response.
” His last fight had him 98% laying on top of Mir and occasionally ground n pounding”
Gee, you get a gold star for that one.
In case you didn’t know, I’m aware of this.
“Where did you see this improved boxing…”
Have you not seen his prior fights?
The way he used to hold his hands?
How much higher he holds his hands now?
How he used to throw his punches?
YOU can see the difference?
Especially since his first fight in K-1?
If not, I’m not going to try to convince you of otherwise.
“…and patience?”
Ditto to what I said to the first part.
He bull rushed Min Soo Kim, Heath Herring and Mir in their first encounter. He didn’t in his rematch with Mir.
In the three prior fights I mentioned, he just pounded away while on top of his opponent. In the rematch with Mir, he measured his his punches much more.
That is the patience part.
Goldberg said it. Rogan said it. Everybody I saw Lesnar/Mir 2 with said it.
My point is, it doesn’t matter what you do in training, tons of stuff fighters train for they don’t use in a fight. They have their bread and butter of what they came into the sport with (be it wrestling, kickboxing, BJJ, ect.) and in the heat of a fight they’ll always go to it. So acting like Brock is going to be a dangerous kickboxer because he’s trained in it for 3 years is far reaching. He’s a grappler, if he’s on his feet he’s looking for a takedown not to play legkick games.
[quote]I didn’t forget.
My turn to say “how do you know?”
How do you know he had concussions?
I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. but you make it sound like “he was a pro wrestler, so he automatically has “X” number of concussions.”[/quote]
Yes, ask any pro wrestling, they all admit to concussions Every wrestlers gets concussions unless they never take bumps, that is a fact any pro wrestler would tell you. And they don’t have medical suspensions like fighters so I’d argue his brain damage is worse than anything Fedor has. If Brock got knocked out cold in MMA he’d be taking months off. If Brock got a concussion in pro wrestling he’d be working 24 hours later.
Could it be because it was an intentional joke?
You wanna talk about beyond stupid: Sapp was in K-1 Kickboxing and you’re comparing him to an MMA grappler? I think it’s safe to say you’d have to go to the leg kick and knee well if you’re in a stand up only fight long before you’d have to if you’re a grappler in an MMA fight.
DUUUUHHHHH THANKS FOR EXPLAINING IT TO ME CUZ I’Z STOOPID AND DON’T KNOW ABOUT SARCASMASM
The fight was less than 10 minutes and he wasn’t even on his feet for most of it. I’m not going to freeze frame and slo-mo watch the few minutes of it he stood. What I remember from a year ago was lots of top control and elbowing Frank in the face. Which he has always done.
He was paranoid about being subbed again by Mir. He won’t be with any of the other top Heavyweights who aren’t known for their BJJ. Do you think he’s going to fear Carwin when he gets him down?
And I really don’t care what Goldberg and Rogan says. They say whatever point Zuffa wants furthered.
Prior to the Rogers fight i would’ve agreed and said Fedor takes this fairly easily. But seeing Fedor get manhandled on the ground as badly as he did makes me think think Lesnar takes this as long as he can keep it on the ground. Which he should, if he’s smart.
To Mark:
“Yes, ask any pro wrestling, they all admit to concussions Every wrestlers gets concussions unless they never take bumps, that is a fact any pro wrestler would tell you.”
”
Yes I know this well. But I even practiaclly spelled out my point for you and you STILL missed it: I said “he was a pro wrestler, so he automatically has “X” number of concussions.”
The “X” number of concussion is what you seem to know,….so tell us how many he had?
“If Brock got knocked out cold in MMA he’d be taking months off. If Brock got a concussion in pro wrestling he’d be working 24 hours later.”
Not any more.
Thanks to Chris Nowinski,…and the Benoit muder/suicide.
Vince and Co. are taking the head injuries much more seriously then the use of steroids.He trains in BJJ as well, but I doubt he’ll ever attempt a Gogo.”
THIS coment is just beyond stupid.
“Could it be because it was an intentional joke?”
I understood it as more of a very poor comparison, due to you internnet tone.
It was still still a poor example.
“You wanna talk about beyond stupid: Sapp was in K-1 Kickboxing and you’re comparing him to an MMA grappler?”
Yes,…because he did SO MUCH kickboxing in fight with Nog in PRIDE. You know, the fight where he dropped him on his head.And once he did this, for soem time during the fight, he kept trying to do it again, he didn’t stand right back up, whichwould have been the smart thing to do agsinst Nog. Then he went into the mount, which against Nog of all people, especially at this point in Nog’s career, was the worst thing he could have done.
I don’t think too many other fighters in K-1 try this. Sapp has had more then one fight where he has tried to take his opponent off of their feet. In his fight with Sokoudjou, HE was theone that tried to lock up and went for a front facelock.
And my additional point was that from all the training camp videos that have been shown, Brock throws better kicks then Sapp. hat and the fact that Sapp is nowhere near the athlete that Brock is.
Yes, I know, “its not the same as kicking a real person”, but if Sapp can’t kick as well as Brock and he tries it, why wouldn’t Brock try it? No, I’m not saying he is going to go out and wear his opponent out like Wanderlei Silva with legs kicks, but if he lands just one or two, I could see the poor bastard on the receiving and limping almost immidately.
And against popular belief, Sapp really isn’t a kickboxer. He is just a great big guy that the Japanese fell in love with who had some striking power, a ton of charisma, poor cardio and a glass jaw.
Don’t make the mistake of really comparing him to most of the roster in K-1, who are at a different level of striking and atleticisim. This is why Sapp ended up in PRIDE. Yes, they offered him more money, but his managment (if hot Sapp himself) realized with the ability to grab an opponent, like you can’t in K-1, he had a much better chance of winning,….and staying this almost mythological,extremley popular figure, due to his size and power.
Sapp could get lucky with a strike against someone in K-1, but most smart or experienced kickboxers will not just go toe-to-toe with him. They will move and strike using different angles.
“DUUUUHHHHH THANKS FOR EXPLAINING IT TO ME CUZ I’Z STOOPID AND DON’T KNOW ABOUT SARCASMASM”
NO.
I never said you were or are stupid. Only that some of the comments you made were.
As I’ve said before, they were stupid because even when reading soemthing you’ve posted that I may have not agreed with you have dome a much better job “debating” instead of trying to sound condescending.
Your tone came across as an “know it all, internet fanboy”, as to where, in the past, you have not.
“The fight was less than 10 minutes and he wasn’t even on his feet for most of it. I’m not going to freeze frame and slo-mo watch the few minutes of it he stood.”
You don’t NEED to freeze frame or slo-mo it. It is very obvious how different he is holding his hands. He still did the “pawing” thing with his left hand, but his right had is held much higher/closer to protect his jaw. And the punches he threw before taking Mir off of his feet, he used his waste and hips more then just his arms and shoulders.
At the start of the second round, Brock took Mir off of his feet and let him back up to his feet. Again, ther is a differnce in the leved of where his hands are and how he throws his punches.
It was actually a mistake, because Mir got the better of the exchange, and was taken down when his flying knee nailed Brock but Brock fell on top of him.
I never said “Brock is a world class stiker” .My point was that Brock is a serious athlete, which at his level makes him a serious student, so of course he i going to try to improve areas of his game.
“He was paranoid about being subbed again by Mir.”
And you don’t think trying to not make the same mistake again requires paitence???
“And I really don’t care what Goldberg and Rogan says. They say whatever point Zuffa wants furthered.”
Oh, come on.
So you REALLY believe that it was in Dana White or ZUFFA’s best interest or even just their desire for Rogan to say that?
If so, why wouldn’t they have come down on him for all the times that he has said “string in MMA is nowere near the level that it is in K-1 or boxing”?
Or the same for all the times when he has said “the Abu Dhabi championships are with the most elite submission fighters in the fighters in the world?
Yes many UFC fighters have compeated in Abu Dhabi and some in K-1,…but with that logic, would they just want them to put over UFC?
I’ll end by saying this:
I may have come across just as rudley in my response to you. If so, I take responsibility for doing so, and sould not have used such a tone myself,…regardless of the fact that I was responding to what SEEMED to be a “scarcatic know it all response that was posted just be argumentative and not debative.”
It truely came across that you just didn’t what I had to say and had no desire to have a conversation.
If that was NOT the case,…then I apologize and say we move on.
I think Lesnar wins via 2nd round stoppage. If it ever happens. Just too much size and speed.
The problem with a Fedor- Lesnar fight is that if Fedor wins, it’ll be : “Well, Brock only has six fights…”, so it’s a no-win situation for Fedor.
No it would’nt Lesner has fought decent competition since his debut in the UFC and I would assume if this fight did happen he would have had to have beaten Carwin.
right about Carwin, wrong about decent competition
Lost to Mir.
Beat a way past his sell-by date Herring.
Beat Couture who had more ring rust than Lesnar will in July.
Beat Mir.
That speaks for itself.
Or speaks the way you want it to sound.
Couture looked a hell of a lot better against Lesnar than he did Nog. That was the end of the best run Couture has made in his career IMO.
It also lends to the argument and speculation that Couture could have been on some PEDs during that time period. Im not saying I believe it, but he was 228 and ripped when he fought Gonzaga and he got a few pounds smaller for every fight at HW after that so speculation is there.
The Herring your talking about just got done beating Kongo who at the time was a fringe top 15 HW. So he wasn’t way passed, just not in his prime.
Mir’s a great win.
What did Couture do in the Lesnar fight to “look better”? He had no offense in that fight. None. He never got Lesnar down to a point where he controlled him. He got smooshed by a right hand thrown by a guy who’s been boxing for a few months. Noguiera’s been training his boxing for how many years?
Mir’s his best win by a landslide.
I didn’t say he did anything to look better. I simply said he looked better. He seemed lighter on his feet, more comfortable trading shots, better in the clinch(against a lot bigger/better wrestler), faster, and a little bit bigger.
“It also lends to the argument and speculation that Couture could have been on some PEDs during that time period. Im not saying I believe it, but he was 228 and ripped when he fought Gonzaga and he got a few pounds smaller for every fight at HW after that so speculation is there.”
Anyone that thinks Couture’s last run at HW was all based off of gameplans and “the training, the prayers and the vitamins” has a screw loose.
Hillarious quote, I needed a good laugh today thanks for that Zach. The Fact is Fedor would be on his back and against the fence 30 seconds into the fight, then you can pretty much see the next 4 minutes be the end of Fedor as he’d be pinned against he cage and smashed into oblivion. We all say what Roger’s did to him and he’s not even in the same class as Brock, wrestling+elbows+cage=Fedor’s face being destroyed it’s that simple.
Oh this is a “Fact” is it? Humourous – this must be one of those times where one would say “anyone who thinks this is a Lesnar fan living in denial”?
I seem to recall Fedor ragdolling Rogers in the clinch and along the fence with more ease than Overeem. So based on that the “Fact” is that Fedor would ragdoll Lesnar and blast his untested chin into orbit with a crushing overhand right. The fact is wwe star Lesnar’s (and your fanboy world) would be destroyed simple as that.
“I seem to recall Fedor ragdolling Rogers in the clinch and along the fence with more ease than Overeem.”
I gotta completely disagree with that man. They were in the clinch for about 2 seconds before Overeem threw Rogers like he was a sack of potatoes. Rogers ended up on top of Fedor and gave him some very scary moments…
Sorry was typing mobile so I think my description was a little jumbled…
Yes, Fedor was in the clinch with Rogers longer than Ubereem was…he doesn’t hulkingly muscle Rogers around because he’s just not going to be able to do that, so he uses balance and leverage and does it quite adeptly. He doesn’t muscle him around as “impressively” as Overeem does/can but using his balance and leveraging, as well as attacking with punches he’s able to toss a far larger Rogers around at several points with ease.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCZhDGQCGgk
Watch at 4:08 (1:23 of the clip) – he lands a punch and goes into a high clinch greco style throw of Rogers.
Then at 2:38 (2:50 of the youtube video) he tosses him around again with clinch/hip work.
Couture was able to use clinch work effectively against Lesnar, albeit due to an extensive greco-background, but I think Fedor has pretty damned good clinch work as well…so I think if it ever gets to close quarters with Lesnar, that’s got to be his blueprint by taking what worked and what didn’t in the Couture fight.
And Rogers NEVER ended up on top of him due to clinch work…the only time he was on top was due to a failed kimura attempt.
Brock and Brett Rogers may be similar sized but Brock is an accomplished NCAA wrestler who trains with much better fighters than Rogers as well.
Rogers-Fedor was the first time he had fought with a full training camp.
If Brock’s trainers see any holes in his game, they can afford to bring in top guys like Cole Konrad for wrestling and Rodrigo Medeiros for submission defense.
I say the odds for the Fedor-Lesnar fight are 50/50 based on the size/strength difference, Lesnar’s wrestling pedigree (and its translation to mma thus far) and a lot based on the amount of unknowns due to Brock’s limited number of fights.
The Carwin fight should give us a bit more of a narrative on the fight (one that looks like it has about a 25% chance of happening with the most positive of outlooks).
The point being, anyone who says “this is a fact what is going to happen” or 100% that will happen is clearly coming in with an agenda or bias because there’s more unknowns than knowns.
As opposed to all the unbiased people who still have Fedor ranked at number 1 at HW, even though he took off 3 years between fighting top flight HW’s and doesn’t fight for the org with the best HW fighters.
Yep there are no agendas there nope, it’s just all the people that see past the hype and recognise that there is a guy in the UFC right now who is a nightmare match up for Fedor.
Keep getting defensive and you’ll keep exposing yourself as being one of those people, I mean the idea that you would even compare Rogers and Lesnar’s skills is ridiculous but that’s par for the course.
Like lord lesnar who hasn’t fought in 14 months? What a front runner I am. I bet the pro wrestler makes the leap from candy asses to best in the world no prob.
Don’t worry – I bet Lesnar makes the leap from a chump like Mir to world class opponent like Fedor with ease.
EJ’s level of straight-outta-the-box exaggerated rage about everything cracks me up. He’s like the Nancy Grace of Fightopinion posters.
6) Brock is younger, and while having much less experience, his body has much less ring wear.
Brock is only 10 months younger than Fedor, but he’s definitely not taken as much punishment as Fedor, unless you count injuries from his live stunt man work in the WWE.
Eddie Goldman’s MMA shows are at least interesting and, he discusses things not normally heard on MMA shows. His recent show with the cranky, but still interesting John Peretti about old fighters who need to retire and, the desire of fighters to take head shots that aren’t necessary was something I haven’t heard. We usually hear that MMA/UFC is less dangerous than boxing, but that doesn’t seem to be the case with the accumulated blows on guys like Liddell for example.
Goldman also points out that many fans look as fighters as entertainment figures, like pro wrestlers, or video game characters.
I don’t expect to agree with everything, but his show is thew only MMA show that I listen to on a regular basis.