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UFC 110 2/20 in Australia at Acer Arena

By Zach Arnold | February 20, 2010

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Event results: Sherdog | MMA Weekly | MMA Junkie

Comments on the event results START HERE.

About whether or not UFC does well with merchandise…

The show set the Acer Arena’s all-time merchandise record,which means beating numbers for a number of sold out WWE events. The old record was set by an Iron Maiden concert.

UFC, in fact, may have had more fans who bought merchandise than the total amount of cash Strikeforce made in merchandise sales (number: 8,000.)

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178 Responses to “UFC 110 2/20 in Australia at Acer Arena”

  1. Isaiah says:

    I came late to this so there’s not much to add except the observation that one side is clearly not interested in a real discussion and is motivated solely by some kind of propaganda crusade.

  2. edub says:

    “I came late to this so there’s not much to add except the observation that one side is clearly not interested in a real discussion and is motivated solely by some kind of propaganda crusade.”

    Funny all I get from your posts is all the knowledgable fans hate Zuffa, and if you like them your an idiot.

  3. 45 Huddle says:

    I can’t remember a positive posting from Isaiah.

  4. Isaiah says:

    edub,
    Actually I’m a big fan of both the UFC and the WEc. Order all the events, attended UFC 74, 84, and 98. But I do think that there is a Dunning-Kruger thing going with a lot of new fans.

  5. Isaiah says:

    I have no idea what it means that you don’t remember anything positive from me. A lot of these discussions are zero-sum. If I think that Mir’s overrated, for example, by necessity, it means that I think other guys are underrated. And so on. Think about it.

  6. edub says:

    You might buy the events Isaiah, but since I’ve posted here you’ve been one of a good size group that knocks almost every move zuffa makes. I find myself on the opposite side everytime, and I hate it because there are things about Zuffa that I absolutely despise.

    I dont have the same opinion as you, but you are definately entitled to them. The way you feel about Mir is how I feel about Eddie Alvarez, and Tatsuya Kawajiri along with a slew of others who have built their names in Japan. Agree to disagree.

  7. david m says:

    EJ: Your ad-hom attacks on Alan are ridiculous and make you look stupid. He has refuted everything you have said and you sound rather obtuse.

  8. Isaiah says:

    Edub,
    I rarely post here. Less than once a week on average over the past year. So you’re probably grouping me in with people that I’m not necessarily similar to, though from my experience almost any honest person on an Internet MMA board is going to be accused of being a Zuffa hater from time to time.

    Fair enough on Mir. Time will tell whether he really made some dramatic improvement starting with the Nog fight or if he just got overrated for a bit.

  9. EJ says:

    “EJ: Your ad-hom attacks on Alan are ridiculous and make you look stupid. He has refuted everything you have said and you sound rather obtuse.”

    Do me a favor take a step back at what you just wrote then think about it. Hopefully when you do, you’ll never make another post like that again.

  10. Chuck says:

    edub;

    Carlos Baldomir didn’t win comeback of the year. He got upset of the year for his win over Zab Judah.

    This does look like a good card, but I won’t order it. Dragon Gate USA is where my ppv money goes (twenty bucks as compared to forty five or fifty bucks).

    And Glen Johnson is currently rated number 2 by Ring Magazine at light heavyweight, behind Chad Dawson, if that means anything.

  11. rainrider says:

    No Asian and black fighters- sending a clear message to the MMA world.

    So who removed Akiyama from the main card?

  12. The Gaijin says:

    Word on Akiyama is that he’s going to fight the winner of Silva-Bisping…and if Silva wins (god I hope he does, but my head is telling me he’s too shot) they’re planning on running a Japan show with this as one of the co-headliners.

  13. John says:

    @Mark:
    “It’s not going to be a high buyrate show. Number one, tape delays never are and I believe Australia is 15 hours ahead of America. So if they run the usual prelims 5-7pm, main card 7-10pm, that would mean results, Dailymotions and torrents will have been available starting after 1pm in America.”

    It´s not tape delayed. They are starting the fights at main card at 2:00 pm Sydney time, which means it will be on regular 10 pm EST time in the states, live.

  14. mattio says:

    “How is Bonnar still allowed in the UFC if ZUFFA comes out and states that Coleman has nothing left and has to retire?”

    Dana’s job for life offer to Bonner should be changed from fighter to part of the ocatogon set-up crew.

  15. szappan says:

    “No Asian and black fighters- sending a clear message to the MMA world.”

    Yeah, but they’ve got a herky-jerky red one – does that count?

  16. jj says:

    “No Asian and black fighters- sending a clear message to the MMA world.”

    4 Australians
    3 Croatians
    8 Americans (7 white guys and 1 joe stevenson)
    1 Canadian
    2 Brazilians
    1 Brit
    1 Mexican

    Gee so sorry they couldn’t meet your black and asian quota.

  17. 45 Huddle says:

    What does it matter what race the fighters on the card are?

    Outside of promoters trying to book a few too many black vs. black fights once in a while…. I’ve never really seen much of a race issue in MMA….

  18. edub says:

    “Carlos Baldomir didn’t win comeback of the year. He got upset of the year for his win over Zab Judah.”

    Yea I should have looked that up, but I thought with the Zab win and the win over Gatti he would have gotten it.

    Yea Glen has been in and out of the top 3 since before he Kod RJJ. His loss to Clinton Woods was bad, but Clinton is a bad style match up for him. Kind of like Vernon Forrest with Sugar Shane.

  19. edub says:

    “Outside of promoters trying to book a few too many black vs. black fights once in a while…. I’ve never really seen much of a race issue in MMA….”

    I haven’t really either. Mo Lawal has talked about how black peopel can’t relate to mma because there is no black champions… Anderson Silva isn’t black?

    He has also said the black fighters haven’t gotten the opportunities that white fighters have gotten. Rampage, Randlemen, Sapp, Smith, K. Jackson, and Evans have all had great opportunities. Some just made the most of it.

    Needless to say I would love to have a debate with King Mo.

  20. Jonathan Snowden says:

    You named six fighters in a sport with a 16 year history. I think racism is right at the surface at most MMA shows I’ve been to. The Atlanta UFC where Rashad knocked Chuck out had me fearing my safety.

    No race issue in MMA? With the skits in Japan? The SAKU Mario Brothers entrance? Dana White playing the race card subtly for years in MMA v. Boxing debates? Announcers in the UFC with the constant stereotypical descriptions of black athletes?

    I don’t think you have to dig hard into sponsorships and other areas to smell a whiff of something distasteful.

  21. edub says:

    What stereotypical descriptions? You mean the ones that are almost always true of the atheletes they are talking about.

    You were probably fearing for you safety because Chuck was an Icon and Rashad was a guy not a lot of people liked. Are u a racist?

    “I don’t think you have to dig hard into sponsorships and other areas to smell a whiff of something distasteful.”

    You should probably elaborate on this a little more, because it just sounds like conspiracy theory to me. Try not to use Hoelzger Reich either.

    I named 6 fighters because there is not many more to choose from. Do you want me to create names? Just because they aren’t there doesn’t mean black people didn’t have a fair go at it. There just weren’t as many competitors.

  22. 45 Huddle says:

    You are right about the race issues in Japan.

    I was primarily talking about North American MMA.

    Dana White has never really played the race card….

  23. IceMuncher says:

    “Announcers in the UFC with the constant stereotypical descriptions of black athletes? ”

    I’m guessing you mean “explosive”? So here’s the deal, I’m going to put the onus on you to name a black fighter that they called explosive that doesn’t match that description. I don’t think they called Rampage or Anderson fast and explosive, so there’s your counter-example. They call GSP and Lesnar explosive, and their asses are as white as snow.

    I’ll be waiting.

  24. Chuck says:

    “Dana White has never really played the race card….”

    Yeah, kind of. He played the socio-economic card. He has said, on numerous occasions, that there are more college-educated fighters in UFC (he specifically said UFC, didn’t say MMA) than there are in boxing. And you know where playing the socio-economic card can lead.

  25. 45 Huddle says:

    Chuck,

    That isn’t the race card.

    And why would Dana White be bringing up the education level of fighters and fans?

    Advertising dollars…

  26. Jonathan Snowden says:

    Where to start here? When Dana White says his fighters are more “relatable” and don’t come from the “ghetto”the racial subtext is startling. What, does he have to spell it out for you?

    As for edubs list of six: if this were a racial discrimination case that would be damning evidence against MMA. I think there are a variety of factors that have prevented African American involvement in MMA. Only some of them are outright racism.

    I’ll say this: I think it is amusing when someone like Rashad Evans is called explosive. Rashad is as methodical and plodding an athlete as we’ve seen at the top level of the sport. Still, he was the “athlete” and Forrest Griffin was the “hard working everyman.” MMA is not alone here at all, and it is more noticeable because of the paucity of black athletes.

  27. Jeremy (Not that Jeremy) says:

    The volume of sockpuppet posting here is starting to make things confusing.

  28. rainrider says:

    > What does it matter what race the fighters on the card are?

    Why is it so hard to admit that they deliberately eliminated Asian and black American names from the card. I guess that Zuffa decided to give them what they instinctively want because Aussie audience are not experienced yet. IMO, this event should be titled “UFC-Australia 1” instead of “UFC 110”.

    > Word on Akiyama is that he’s going to fight the winner of Silva-Bisping…and if Silva wins (god I hope he does, but my head is telling me he’s too shot) they’re planning on running a Japan show with this as one of the co-headliners.

    They can say whatever, but UFC-Japan won’t happen before Akiyama retires from this sport. It sounds like a stupid excuse to me. Sydney is in the near same time zone as Tokyo/Seoul and adding at least 2-3 Asian fighters makes perfect sense. The only reason they don’t use Asian/Black fighters is because Aussies don’t appreciate them. North Americans would’ve understood the situation 45 years ago.

  29. Oh Yeah says:

    “I’ll say this: I think it is amusing when someone like Rashad Evans is called explosive. Rashad is as methodical and plodding an athlete as we’ve seen at the top level of the sport. Still, he was the “athlete” and Forrest Griffin was the “hard working everyman.” MMA is not alone here at all, and it is more noticeable because of the paucity of black athletes.”

    Methodical and plodding describes Forrest perfectly, though you seem to have laughably overreacted to what you believe is others’ stereotyping.

    Please explain to the rest of us how Phil Davis is not athletic or explosive.

  30. Jonathan Snowden says:

    Phil Davis is athletic AND explosive. Probably a natural too. Barely has to work at it, unlike scrappy guys such as Ryan Bader. That guy puts in work and is cerebral!Davis reminds me of Jon Jones and Quinton Jackson. Like a younger Kevin Jackson. Spitting image.

    Look, it’s just like most horrible mainstream sports coverage. Black fighters tend to be stereotyped as naturally athletic, quick, and powerful, while white fighters are praised for their hard work, effort, and mental skill.

  31. szappan says:

    I love the irony of discussing racism in sports when the card is headlined by a guy with “BROWN PRIDE” tattooed across his chest.

    Perhaps the debate will turn to homo erotic art when Brock Lesnar fights.

  32. Jonathan Snowden says:

    I don’t think irony means what you think it means.

  33. szappan says:

    That’s OK, I still do.

    But hey, I’m not about to argue with the author of such a great book : )

  34. edub says:

    Rashads over hand right on Chuck was definately methodical and plodding. So was his head kick on Salmon. He has had a couple of fights where he went by a game plan a little more.
    “Where to start here? When Dana White says his fighters are more “relatable” and don’t come from the “ghetto”the racial subtext is startling. What, does he have to spell it out for you?”

    Yea so he didn’t say a thing about race there. You heard what you wanted to hear out of it.

    You think my list is damning evidence. So because the NFL and NBA is populated by mostly black people you think there is evidence of racial profiling there. No thats where the most athletically gifted athletes dominate the field. Its not the same in mma because there is not as much money in it yet.

  35. Oh Yeah says:

    The phenomenon you speak of surely does exist. However, you’re the one doing the stereotyping in this case – mislabelling announcers who have appropriately described fighters to the audience.

    The TUF1 alum, Chris Leben, has rarely ever (if ever) been portrayed as a hard worker.

    Unless you can come up specific examples better than Rashad being proclaimed the superior athlete to Forrest (which he unquestionably is), I don’t think your argument holds much water at this point.

    I’m not sure where “scrappy” comes into play with Ryan Bader. If it’s a joke, it’s surely not something anyone has ever uttered about him in the last 10 years.

  36. edub says:

    Oh and I don’t care if sound racist when I say this.

    Black people are more athletically gifted than white people as a whole. I would love to conversate with anyone who begs to differ.

  37. edub says:

    Oh Yeah:

    Yea I guess I should’ve put in there that I’ve never heard anyone talk about how Bader is in the UFC just because of his work ethic.

  38. Alan Conceicao says:

    Rashads over hand right on Chuck was definately methodical and plodding. So was his head kick on Salmon. He has had a couple of fights where he went by a game plan a little more.

    Both were set up for a long time, particularly the right hand against Liddell. It wasn’t as if he came bum rushing in with it 30 seconds into the fight. Rashad Evans was denigrated as a boring LNP wrestler the majority of his career who couldn’t finish anyone.

  39. A. Taveras says:

    Unrelated to the original topic or even this conversation but … why were they booing Rashad at the last show?

  40. edub says:

    “Unrelated to the original topic or even this conversation but … why were they booing Rashad at the last show?”

    Because he’s black.

    “Both were set up for a long time, particularly the right hand against Liddell. It wasn’t as if he came bum rushing in with it 30 seconds into the fight.”

    It doesn’t change the fact that they still happened. When he fought Forrest he pretty much exploded with a takedown and just punched until Forrest was inadvertently tapping. Rashad is a great athelete that has said himself he could have gone a lot farther in collegiate wrestling if he had a better work ethic. So that means on talent alone he was one win away from All American status his senior year, and had wins over two big ten champs and 1 national champ.

  41. edub says:

    “Rashad Evans was denigrated as a boring LNP wrestler the majority of his career who couldn’t finish anyone.”

    If you wanna call for 2 years the majority of his career than your right. There are some that probably still call him that now.

    Kevin Randlemen was known for Lay N Pray. So was Ricardo Arona. Are you to say that either of them weren’t athletically gifted and explosive?

  42. Alan Conceicao says:

    It doesn’t change the fact that they still happened.

    Setting up a counter punch is proof of EXPLOSIVE ATHLETICISM~?

  43. edub says:

    No the fact that the counter knocked Chuck Liddell(who is known to have a some what strong chin) out cold for over 2 minutes does. People get countered all the time. They don’t usually go to sleep for it. Especially after one punch.

    Why are u guys trying to say that Rashad Evans isn’t explosive? Do you actually believe it or are you just arguing to argue?

  44. Chuck says:

    “Its not the same in mma because there is not as much money in it yet.”

    That’s not all. Look at the best boxing gyms in America. Mostly in inner-cities. Look at most of the best BJJ/MMA gyms in America. Most definitely NOT in inner cities. And where boxing gyms are dirt cheap to practice in, BJJ/MMA gyms can be very pricey (usually no less than seventy bucks a month. There are exceptions of course). And when it comes to sports like basketball, football, etc. there are programs in school that are completely free to do, so those in inner-cities who don’t have the means to do the pricey BJJ/MMA gyms can instead do those other sports. Oh, and Judo places are usually pretty cheap too, and in inner cities.

  45. Alan Conceicao says:

    No the fact that the counter knocked Chuck Liddell(who is known to have a some what strong chin) out cold for over 2 minutes does. People get countered all the time. They don’t usually go to sleep for it. Especially after one punch.

    He was the second guy in a row to knock out Liddell on one punch. Oh, wait, they were both “explosive athletes”, weren’t they?

  46. edub says:

    hahahahahahahhaha!

    There it is. Your being sarcastic but you just made my point for me.

    Rampage is explosive. Please try to tell me he isn’t.

  47. edub says:

    And Rampage’s KO of liddell was nothing compared to Rashad’s. You could even argue that the stoppage was too early.

  48. Alan Conceicao says:

    There it is. Your being sarcastic but you just made my point for me.

    You’re right. Rashad Evans KOing Liddell had nothing to do with his gameplan and preparation; it was all about overwhelming athleticism. How could I have forgotten? He’s nothing like the scrappy Shogun; far more explosive.

  49. Fluyid says:

    “A last second change has been made to this weekend’s UFC 110 card in Australia as Ben Rothwell has been forced to drop out of his fight against Mirko CroCop due to illness, and will be replaced by veteran fighter, Anthony Perosh.

    Also the Australian undercard rematch between Elvis Sinosic and Chris Haseman has been pulled off the card completely due to a late shoulder injury to Sinosic.

    The UFC announced by moves on Thursday, while also stating that the card will stand at a total of 9 bouts for the Sunday afternoon show.

    Anthony Perosh (10-5), who trains along with Elvis Sinosic in Sydney, Australia, gets the call to step in on short notice and face the former Pride Grand Prix winner.

    Winning his last fight by TKO in December, Perosh steps in just a day before the official weigh-in for the event, but with the bout being contested at heavyweight it shouldn’t present any problems.”

    http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=10784&zoneid=13

  50. Alan Conceicao says:

    Perosh is garbage. What a crappy fight.

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