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BodogFight 7/14 Trenton card

By Zach Arnold | July 10, 2007

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At the Sovereign Bank Arena in Trenton, New Jersey:

  1. Featherweights (145 pounds): David Love vs. Eben Oroz
  2. Heavyweights (206-265 pounds): Mark Burch vs. Yoshiki Takahashi
  3. Middleweights (185 pounds pounds: Amar Suloev vs. Chael Sonnen
  4. Welterweights (170 pounds): Yves Edwards vs. Jorge Masvidal
  5. Heavyweights (206-265 pounds): Roman Zentsov vs. Branden Lee Hinkle
  6. Middleweights (185 pounds): Trevor Prangley vs. Yuki Kondo
  7. Bantamweights (135 pounds): Dan Hawley vs. Nick Cottone
  8. Lightweights (155 pounds): Nick Agallar vs. Binky Jones
  9. 135 pounds: Tara LaRosa vs. Kelly Kobald
  10. Welterweights (170 pounds): Eddie Alvarez vs. Matt Lee

That is the expected order of fights for the card. I have not found any odds for the fights, yet.

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21 Responses to “BodogFight 7/14 Trenton card”

  1. Stu says:

    So Yves Edwards will fight at 170, doesn’t seem like the ideal weight for him.

  2. Kev says:

    yeah, that doesn’t seem right… Edwards and Masvidal at 170? I suppose they both dont want to cut weight.

  3. bodog’s official site has the fight at lightweight.

  4. Zach Arnold says:

    I’m on their site and it’s listed in the news updates as Welterweight. *shrugs*

  5. Zack says:

    At least they are smart enough to not run this on PPV. I think Zentsov is one of the most improved fighters of the last couple years.

  6. MoreThanUFC says:

    9672 was the official attendance of the EliteXC card in the same building.

  7. Grape Knee High says:

    Probably not ideal but Edwards has fought at 170 before.

  8. Adam Morgan says:

    9672 was the official attendance of the EliteXC card in the same building.

    Elite XC was in San Jose, CA at the HP Pavilion.

    UFC 73 was in Sacramento at Arco Arena.

  9. Jonathan says:

    This is not that bad of a card. I think that sometimes we get spoiled with all those super awesome cards. I remember years back when cards like this would have maybe one or two recognizeable names on it. I am especially looking forward to the Sonnen v Suolev fight.

  10. The Gaijin says:

    I’m pretty blown away that Shamrock vs. Baroni out-sold “the best mma card in the history of mankind(since the last UFC that was at the time, ‘the best mma card in the history of mankind’)”.

    Is (are) F. Shamrock (and to a lesser/same extent Cung Le) that popluar with the Cali-mma scene these days? I realize they have a following in Cali, but they run there all the time and still no burnout? I figured with Shammy’s last debacle his draw might be screwed over – but it appears Franky “out Tito’d” Tito. Not to mention Strikeforce really doesn’t have the TV and media exposure to really hype the cards like Zuffa….

    45 – I’d like to hear your expert analysis on that one since you did all you could to piss all over that one and ride it down to the ground.

  11. klown says:

    A new FightOpinion Radio instalment is overdue!

  12. chairibofjustice says:

    Part of the problem with that last UFC was decision to hold in that cowtown known as Sacramento. I guess Fresno and Bakersfield were booked solid.

    If you’re going to run an event up in NorCal, it really should be either the city or San Jose. You’re going to be guaranteed a much bigger turnout in those two places.

    Personally, if you’re going to hold a UFC in Cali I think it’s really either Anaheim or LA.

  13. Zack says:

    UFC tickets are at least twice as much as Strikeforce as well.

  14. MMA Fan says:

    how did an online gaming casino licensed in nj?

  15. 45 Huddle says:

    There isn’t even a comparison between the UFC and any of it’s competition.

    The UFC is selling $500 to $800 tickets on their cards. They aren’t selling cheap tickets. I went to The Ultimate Fighter 5 Finale, got the cheap seats, and they were $150.

    To me, attendance numbers don’t mean anything. Anybody can get a crowd if they give away enough free tickets or sell tickets at a low enough price. The gate and PPV Revenues are what matter. And PPV is really the most important. So lets examine those:

    GATE REVENUES

    UFC is getting gates anywhere between $1.5 Million and $5 Million for PPV Cards. An average card right now is getting around $2.5 Million. They are doing this in Vegas, in England, in Ohio, and in Texas. They are doing these numbers in many locations.

    The nearest to this is Strikeforce. They have exactly one location that they are hot in. They didn’t even break the $1 Million gate barrier.

    PPV REVENUES

    The UFC is getting 300,000 buys for lesser PPVs (not including Ireland). At $40 a pop, they get 50% of that, which is $6 Million. A Couture, Liddell, or Hughes card can get anywhere between 500,000 and 1 Million buys. That is anywhere between $10 Million and $20 Million take home for the UFC.

    No company, including Pride at its best, has beaten the 30,000 PPV Buy number. The strikeforce numbers aren’t in yet, but I doubt they are more. The K-1 show got 30,000. The bodog card got 13,000. But let’s go with a PPV that is $35 and sells 30,000. That is $525,000 take home.

    Basically…. There isn’t an MMA Company in North America that is even close to competing with the UFC at this point. And when I say it isn’t even close, that might be an understatement.

    So for as much as Pride was loved by the hardcores, it did nothing in the states. As much as Strikeforce was loved by the hardcores, it is likely to have done basically nothing outside of the San Jose market.

    That is the reality of MMA in America. Not some delusional view as many fans seem to have.

  16. 45 Huddle says:

    I know this is going to piss off some people just hearing it… But this is from an inteview with Dana White on ESPN.com….

    ESPN.com: How do you feel about the IFL, Bodog, EliteXC and other competition popping up?

    DW: It’s good for us. I don’t look at those guys as competition at all. They’re nowhere near the league that we’re in. I need shows like that. They’re the feeder leagues. All the guys who fight in those shows aspire to be in the UFC someday. They’re creating all the UFC talent of tomorrow.

  17. Zack says:

    That’s great that UFC is successfully making a killing financially right now.

    Financial success doesn’t always correlate with the best product.

  18. D. Capitated says:

    Who’s putting on a better MMA show than the UFC right now? Please, let’s not use the tired, “UFC is boring because they don’t spend half a million on entrance ramps.” They seem to have become the most successful MMA group in history without that crap. The last thing they need to do is go following the lead of failed organizations or 15 year old pro wrestling promotional ideas.

  19. Zach Arnold says:

    The last thing they need to do is go following the lead of failed organizations or 15 year old pro wrestling promotional ideas.

    So what are the marketing tactics then with The Ultimate Fighter?

    You can hate professional wrestling and what it stands for in terms of marketing, but it’s the kind of marketing that has been most proven to work in MMA on a global basis.

    PRIDE’s product was generating serious money, anywhere from $50-60 million USD a year in its peak. Yes, obviously they have much higher overhead than UFC (because they paid out significantly more to the fighters), but pro-wrestling marketing did not hurt them one single bit.

    PRIDE collapsed because of who was backing the company and the alleged dealings behind the scenes, not because the product used pro-wrestling marketing.

  20. D.Capitated says:

    So what are the marketing tactics then with The Ultimate Fighter?

    The same as used in every other reality show ever? Oh, that’s right, Nova invented promotion and marketing. Puck in The Real World San Francisco season was clearly intended as an amoral heel in the vein of Kevin Sullivan.

    PRIDE’s product was generating serious money, anywhere from $50-60 million USD a year in its peak. Yes, obviously they have much higher overhead than UFC (because they paid out significantly more to the fighters), but pro-wrestling marketing did not hurt them one single bit.

    And they operated in a country with no oversight whatsoever in a world where pro wrestling was often marketed in a very different way. I don’t think Kurt Angle/Gabriel Gonzaga would do business like Cro-Cop/Nagata did. Call it a hunch.

    PRIDE collapsed because of who was backing the company and the alleged dealings behind the scenes, not because the product used pro-wrestling marketing.

    Sometimes those things go hand in hand. Booking works and crosspromoting with comedy wrestling groups would likely do immense damage to UFC’s credibility in this country and do it an immense amount of harm.

  21. The Gaijin says:

    Well since they are such different markets/consumers why are you bothering to compare them?

    In Japan they consider puroresu to be an actual sport.

    In the USA they’d probably draw huge by bringing in professional football players, boxers, olympic gold medallists and to an extent Kurt Angle when he was actually popular and relevant. Gonzaga/Angle wouldnt draw b/c no one in the USA would give a rats behind about portugese speaking Gonzaga.

    And you’re either not getting the point or purposely not paying attention to the point in order to further your argument. PRIDE marketed itself with “larger than life” grandiose and superhuman characters/fighters…they provided interesting (if not wild backstories for fighters – i.e. Rampage was a homeless street fighter).

    UFC was successful at doing this as well: Tito vs. Shamrock is what jettisoned the UFC into the fame that it has now and was arguably it’s hottest “angle”. It was very much marketed pro wrestling wise with it’s Tito beat the Lion’s Den fighters and insulted them causing their leader/master to come out of retirement to fight/get revenge on the man who insulted/beat them all. They’ve all but abandoned much of that style of promotion since.

    I don’t think Zach was making a point that was too far out there that it was that difficult to figure out.

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