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Frank Mir interview: Fedor should quit MMA
By Zach Arnold | August 31, 2009
A message to MMA’s most beloved atheists in Frank Mir and Joe Silva — I’d be more impressed if you worshipped Richard Dawson instead of Richard Dawkins.
I figured commenters would scratch their heads by the remark up above, which plays off of this. Frank’s on a roll these days in the media. Everyone at their keyboards can go calm down now.
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Zach, why the very strange comment after the video? What does Frank’s atheistic beliefs have to do with any of this? In the same vein, why bring Joe Silva into this at all, when there was no mention of him in the video? Very left field. Why bring any discussion of religion, or lack of religion, into this post at all?
Strange post, sir. I do not know what to make of it at all. Please give us some explanation.
Based on the headline, I figured I was in for some major trash talking. In context though, I can’t disagree with what he said about Fedor.
As requested already by Brendan, please explain your comment regarding atheism.
I’ve got to follow the comments by faybio and Brendan. That seems wholly unnecessary and very disrespectful. And not even funny. If you want to make jokes, try to make funny jokes.
I too think the comment is more telling. What is up with that? There was no mention of god or Joe Silva in the video at all. Have some dislike of atheists?
Yeah very strange comment. I come on here to get my MMA news. To worship Dawkins i go to other websites 🙂
Frank is a very thoughtful and intelligent guy. Real good interview. He’s dead on about Fedor. Though ironically, I think he’s contradictory with what he says about Randy. Why can’t he fight Randy and leave it up to Randy whether he taps or not.
On a separate note, I”m watching the Randy/Nog fight on video for the first time right now. Is it me or does Goldberg’s commentary sound canned like the commentary in Madden Football? It doesn’t even match up sometimes. He just throws random lines like, “Randy’s all about five round fights” in there out of the blue.
Frank mir is a joke
Goldberg has actually gotten measurably worse recently. There was that stretch where everything he said was a set up line for a gay joke (inappropriate, but at least kind of funny), and someone seems to have quashed that (gee, I wonder why).
Now he’s on to pretty much just agreeing with absolutely everything that Rogan has to say, and he’s probably also got a stack of fact cards like a color commentator.
When your comedian is your play by play guy, you’ve got issues.
First off what a Bizarre comment Zach, I appreciate you clarified it afterwards, but I don’t really see how the two relate. You could have at least made some false-idol point in relation to FEDOR and how those in the MMA “know” treat him as the second coming.
As for ‘Jeremy (not that Jeremy)’, do you not think Rogan’ insane experience and appreciation of MMA make him a solid play-by-play guy? Its not as if he just walked off the stage and had a go, if Billy Connolly or Eddie Izzard start calling UFC 103 you have a point, but I would say Rogan sees his career as UFC > Comedy, even if (and I am only guessing) the money doesn’t correlate the same way.
Add me to the list of readers puzzled by Zach’s random attack on atheism – What’s your beef here, Zach?
Mir and Rogan are two of the most intelligent people in the entire sport and it’s refreshing that they have the courage to express their unpopular views.
I meant Joe Silva, but my comment does apply to Joe Rogan as well.
I kinda dig Frank’s “what will he say next?” gimmick. Mr. Roadblock is spot on about Goldberg
Some knee jerk reactions here,
I think the comment related to the matchmaking and commentating prowess of Dawson in the “The Running Man”
Mir is right.
Fedor is the best in the world, and no, he DOESN’T have to prove anything to fans, fighters, or anyone. No one can take away the greatest winning streak in MMA history.
Maybe he SHOULD retire if he truly feels that way though – that has absolutely nothing left to prove? No challenges left for him?
I think maybe the Strikeforce deal has to do with control more than money or matchmaking. He (or Fedor’s management, or both) want the power to walk away at will, call their own shots, etc. and they feel they’ve earned that right.
Not EVERYTHING is done for the profit motive…which is a concept that’s foreign to most of us in the Western world.
atheism =/= Dawkins and Hitchens
If you’ve ever had to deal with Brights or Antitheists. . . we’ll they’re basically between Truthers and Birthers in terms of sheer annoyance.
People with no belief or no religion is up to 12% of the American Population. It use to be something like 2% like 50 years ago. It is more then just a tiny subculture of America now. And I think it will only grow in the next 50 years.
Personally, I don’t really care what other peoples religious beliefs are…. That is, unless they use those religious beliefs for bad or to tell people how to live their lives. That’s where 45 Huddle draws the line!!
As for Mir, I’m glad he is outspoken about many topics. And he is right about Fedor in how he is discussing it.
I made this point at BE and they changed it, so I’m going to make it here as well: your title is misleading at best, and an outright lie at worst. Frank said nothing of the sort. What he did was question whether or not Fedor really believes if he has something to prove.
Unless you’re simply not smart enough to figure out what he’s saying, your post is, frankly, shameful.
Let’s see… Frank Mir, Joe Silva, and Joe Rogan are all atheists? Well, I say congrats to them for thinking for themselves and not being a bunch of sheep.
It takes a special kind of narcissism to call the majority of humanity ‘sheep’ in a way that explicitly excludes oneself.
That idea that Joe Silva and Joe Rogan are thinking for themselves entirely due to being atheists is just so laughably self-serving, I mean seriously man have you ever read one of your own posts?
I’m an atheist too but most vocal atheists are just so dogmatic and asinine about it I just call myself an agnostic.
Actually, one question for you Zadius. What about Frank Mir reading Dawkins and Hitchens and then regurgitating the talking points screams “free thinker” or “unsheepishness” to you?
If you think most atheists are dogmatic, you don’t know many atheists. Or perhaps you just misinterpret them as you have my post. Funny how you say that anyone who agrees with Dawkins is “regurgitating talking points.” If you think that, then you must think Dawkins himself is not thinking for himself since nothing in his book is original. It’s really just an aggregation of old arguments that believers have never been able to refute. I guess, in your mind, the difference between an argument and a talking point is whether or not YOU agree with it. Talk about self narcissism…
I don’t like frank mir anymore.