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	<title>Comments on: Quote of the Week: Keith Kizer on drug testing</title>
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		<title>By: sammy</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/12/26/quote-of-the-week-keith-kizer-on-drug-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-72171</link>
		<dc:creator>sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice....good response Zach.

I know you read my post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice&#8230;.good response Zach.</p>
<p>I know you read my post.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/12/26/quote-of-the-week-keith-kizer-on-drug-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-72165</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Alex Sean just imply getting a broken nose fixed is somehow wrong? WTF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Alex Sean just imply getting a broken nose fixed is somehow wrong? WTF.</p>
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		<title>By: Fluyid</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/12/26/quote-of-the-week-keith-kizer-on-drug-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-72163</link>
		<dc:creator>Fluyid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/12/manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather-jr-nevada-boxing.html</description>
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		<title>By: Grape Knee High</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/12/26/quote-of-the-week-keith-kizer-on-drug-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-72162</link>
		<dc:creator>Grape Knee High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;With TJS, more often then not they are better pitchers afterwards&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Facts are important.  Old wives&#039; tales about Tommy John are not.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=does-tommy-john-surgery-give-pitche-2009-04-05</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>With TJS, more often then not they are better pitchers afterwards</p></blockquote>
<p>Facts are important.  Old wives&#8217; tales about Tommy John are not.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=does-tommy-john-surgery-give-pitche-2009-04-05" rel="nofollow">http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=does-tommy-john-surgery-give-pitche-2009-04-05</a></p>
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		<title>By: samsc</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/12/26/quote-of-the-week-keith-kizer-on-drug-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-72139</link>
		<dc:creator>samsc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to the issue at hand..I think Zach is being a bit silly, as are most of the mayweather-backers in this scenario.  I&#039;m not saying Zach is pro-Mayweather, but my point is that this whole blood testing request i&#039;m pretty sure is going beyond what any of the top sports in America require...

Correct me if I&#039;m wrong (and i could be) but the NFL, NBA, and MLB do NOT require blood testing. And doesnt the NFL test for EPO using urine??

I&#039;m not saying that these organizations are drug-free...theyre certainly not..but they all are the pinacle of their respective sports, and only require urine testing.  Why are you (Zach) having this holier-than-thou attitude with respect to Kizer&#039;s statement, when EVERY other major sport in this country does the same thing?

I know...youre gonna say: &#039;well those sports should have blood testing.&#039;  Sure, maybe they should, but the fact of the matter is that currently they represent the highest caliber athletic leagues in the world and they DO NOT require blood testing...yet Zach and the Mayweather-backers are acting like its outrageous for anyone (Pacquiao/Kizer) not to do blood testing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the issue at hand..I think Zach is being a bit silly, as are most of the mayweather-backers in this scenario.  I&#8217;m not saying Zach is pro-Mayweather, but my point is that this whole blood testing request i&#8217;m pretty sure is going beyond what any of the top sports in America require&#8230;</p>
<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong (and i could be) but the NFL, NBA, and MLB do NOT require blood testing. And doesnt the NFL test for EPO using urine??</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that these organizations are drug-free&#8230;theyre certainly not..but they all are the pinacle of their respective sports, and only require urine testing.  Why are you (Zach) having this holier-than-thou attitude with respect to Kizer&#8217;s statement, when EVERY other major sport in this country does the same thing?</p>
<p>I know&#8230;youre gonna say: &#8216;well those sports should have blood testing.&#8217;  Sure, maybe they should, but the fact of the matter is that currently they represent the highest caliber athletic leagues in the world and they DO NOT require blood testing&#8230;yet Zach and the Mayweather-backers are acting like its outrageous for anyone (Pacquiao/Kizer) not to do blood testing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/12/26/quote-of-the-week-keith-kizer-on-drug-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-72129</link>
		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure what my favorite team has to do with this.  I live in the North East.  I have lived near both Boston and New York.  I have talked with both devoted Red Sox and Yankees fans.  They happen to make up some of the most educated baseball fans in the world.  And when talking about this surgery, some fans believe there should be an (*) next to the pitchers name in the record books.

Even Yankee announcers have talked about the surgery during the telecast and both pitchers and hitters alike have agreed that it is almost an unfair advantage.  These are legends who have played the game and have seen the results first hand.

Taking a ligament from your leg and putting it in your arm is not normal.  When a pitcher comes back pitching the ball faster then before, it is because of the surgery.  You don&#039;t see a guy getting reconstructive knee surgery and then becoming faster on the bases.  The vast majority of them slow down because of it.  With TJS, more often then not they are better pitchers afterwards.

That makes it performance enhancing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what my favorite team has to do with this.  I live in the North East.  I have lived near both Boston and New York.  I have talked with both devoted Red Sox and Yankees fans.  They happen to make up some of the most educated baseball fans in the world.  And when talking about this surgery, some fans believe there should be an (*) next to the pitchers name in the record books.</p>
<p>Even Yankee announcers have talked about the surgery during the telecast and both pitchers and hitters alike have agreed that it is almost an unfair advantage.  These are legends who have played the game and have seen the results first hand.</p>
<p>Taking a ligament from your leg and putting it in your arm is not normal.  When a pitcher comes back pitching the ball faster then before, it is because of the surgery.  You don&#8217;t see a guy getting reconstructive knee surgery and then becoming faster on the bases.  The vast majority of them slow down because of it.  With TJS, more often then not they are better pitchers afterwards.</p>
<p>That makes it performance enhancing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: smoogy</title>
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		<dc:creator>smoogy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey 45 Huddle: &quot;Rookie of the Year&quot; was a fictional story, not a documentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey 45 Huddle: &#8220;Rookie of the Year&#8221; was a fictional story, not a documentary.</p>
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		<title>By: Grape Knee High</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/12/26/quote-of-the-week-keith-kizer-on-drug-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-72118</link>
		<dc:creator>Grape Knee High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. No, they don&#039;t.

The small sample of pitchers who are supposedly throw better after the surgery is because of more rigorous conditioning and changed pitching mechanics.

And if by &quot;improve on nature&quot; you mean, fix something that wouldn&#039;t have otherwise broken down because one played a sport, then by that ludicrous definition, you might be right.  You must be against ACL reconstruction as well.

&quot;Baseball wisdom&quot; from a Yankees fan: the ultimate oxymoron.  What next, you going to use Eric Gagne as your example for why Tommy John makes pitchers throw harder?  LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. No, they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The small sample of pitchers who are supposedly throw better after the surgery is because of more rigorous conditioning and changed pitching mechanics.</p>
<p>And if by &#8220;improve on nature&#8221; you mean, fix something that wouldn&#8217;t have otherwise broken down because one played a sport, then by that ludicrous definition, you might be right.  You must be against ACL reconstruction as well.</p>
<p>&#8220;Baseball wisdom&#8221; from a Yankees fan: the ultimate oxymoron.  What next, you going to use Eric Gagne as your example for why Tommy John makes pitchers throw harder?  LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/12/26/quote-of-the-week-keith-kizer-on-drug-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-72114</link>
		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell me the error of my ways smart one....

the surgery isn&#039;t just fixing something that is wrong. Most doctors say it actually improves on nature. Hence the issues with it.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me the error of my ways smart one&#8230;.</p>
<p>the surgery isn&#8217;t just fixing something that is wrong. Most doctors say it actually improves on nature. Hence the issues with it&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Grape Knee High</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/12/26/quote-of-the-week-keith-kizer-on-drug-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-72112</link>
		<dc:creator>Grape Knee High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>45, you never cease to amaze.

But I am certainly not surprised that a Yankees fan could possibly be ignorant to baseball reality, much less the facts surrounding Tommy John surgery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>45, you never cease to amaze.</p>
<p>But I am certainly not surprised that a Yankees fan could possibly be ignorant to baseball reality, much less the facts surrounding Tommy John surgery.</p>
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