Comments on: Dynamite 12/31 Saitama Super Arena

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:24:43 +0000

Saku is claiming he hasn’t felt up to training, that is why Misaki vs. Manhoef is happening.

By: liger05

liger05 — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:15:26 +0000

Does Satoshi Ishii have to win? Sakuraba will get added to the card wont he?

Lets hope Shibata wins!!

By: GassedOut

GassedOut — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:38:53 +0000

I can’t see how Barnett can be on anyone’s lists at the moment. Someone earlier said that he was “afraid” to get licenced in the US. That’s not quite accurate – he was REFUSED a licence in California because he tested positive for steroids. Again. If he can’t be licenced somewhere, I don’t think he should be eligible to be on any lists.

By: urbanraida

urbanraida — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:11:39 +0000

I gotta admit so far Dynamite is doing nothing for me personally.

I just hope these much talked about other fights can “save” the show. Then again with such short notice, it’s difficult to take these fights seriously.

By: Isaiah

Isaiah — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:37:53 +0000

I have no idea what it means to say “if you go by wins over ranked opponents” and then have a guy with exactly one win over a top-10 opponent ranked second.

I’d say:

1. Fedor
2. Nog
3. Barnett
4. Brock
5. JDS
6. Rogers
7. Werdum
8. Arlovski
9. Mir
10.Velasquez

Since coming to the UFC, Nog has beaten Herring, Sylvia, and Couture and lost to Mir. Brock has beaten Herring, Couture, and Mir, and lost to Mir. Nog was ranked much higher before those respective runs began. I don’t see the argument for ranking Brock over Nog, though I’d probably pick him to win at this point.

By: klown

klown — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:48:24 +0000

Sylvia claim to a spot in the rankings is going 2-1 against Arlovski.

As for his losses, they are against the very best athletes in the division: Fedor (#1), Mir (#3), Nogueira (#4) and Couture (#5). Are you kidding me? Those are 4 of the most fearsome fighters in MMA. Sylvia deserves an award just for stepping in the cage with those guys…

The elephant in the room is Sylvia’s loss to Mercer. I think there’s too much weirdness surrounding that fight for me to count it as a legit MMA contest. There’s no doubt it exposed Sylvia’s chin. Until he starts being leapfrogged by other fighters, I’m keeping him where is.

The leapfrogging could commence soon. If Carwin beats Mir, Velasquez beats Nogueira, and Yvel beats JDS, Sylvia drops 3 spots right there.

By: jj

jj — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:48:57 +0000

“It’s not so much about Overeem. I can understand not ranking him very highly even though he is obviously one of the best fighters in the division. It’s just the pattern of “Fedor first, then all the relevant UFC HWs, and then everyone else” in the rankings that makes me suspect a shill.”

Where’s your top ten?

By: Detective Roadblock

Detective Roadblock — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:38:30 +0000

Klown your list is very good. I think Sylvia is too high on it though.

Overeems best work is at 205lbs. He has fought nobody at HW. His K-1 fights have no bearing on MMA. If they did you’d have to put Schilt and Hari up there. Sounds stupid, doesn’t it?

Imagining how guys would do in fantasy fights is not supposed to factor in ratings. But I’m pretty sure that’s the only way people rank Overeem as high as they do. If you want to play fantasyland I don’t think Overeem would have much different results from Kongo if givn the same schedule. They even have one common opponent Cro Cop and those fights went similarly. Except for Cop getting himslef DQd against Overeem.

The reason UFC guys dominate the rankings now is that they’re constantly fighting and fighting solid competition. For guys not in UFC they’re fighting here and there and he quality of opponents varies greatly. This is why PRIDEs top guys were ranked so high back in the day. I think it is fair now to ask if Fedor, Nog and Cop helped make each other overvalued but they did it by fighting often.

By: Isaiah

Isaiah — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:20:02 +0000

It’s not so much about Overeem. I can understand not ranking him very highly even though he is obviously one of the best fighters in the division. It’s just the pattern of “Fedor first, then all the relevant UFC HWs, and then everyone else” in the rankings that makes me suspect a shill.

By: klown

klown — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:45:15 +0000

If you go purely by wins over ranked opponents, here’s how it looks.

1. F. Emilianenko
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Nogueira
5. Couture
6. Sylvia
7. Rogers
8. Dos Santos
9. Arlovski
10. Werdum
11. Carwin
12. Gonzaga
13. Velasquez
14. Herring
15. Kongo
16. CroCop
17. Barnett
18. A. Emilianenko
19. Rizzo
20. Monson
21. Kharitanov
22. Overeem