Comments on: Joe Rogan’s interesting comment about Roy Nelson and Elite XC

By: Ivan Trembow

Ivan Trembow — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:37:18 +0000

Yeah, the first round was such a “virtual draw” that the statistics from that very page show Houston Alexander landing three times as many strikes in the round as Kimbo. That wasn’t particularly hard to do, given that Kimbo did almost nothing in the whole entire round, landing only four strikes in the entire five-minute round (all of which were jabs).

As I said before, how do you win a round without doing anything other than getting leg-kicked by your opponent repeatedly? Slice landed almost nothing in the first round, while Alexander landed numerous good leg kicks. If neither fighter is being particularly aggressive, but one of them is actually landing numerous strikes and the other isn’t, how can the fighter who wasn’t landing the strikes win the round? Alexander wasn’t doing much, but Slice was doing far less.

By: Steve4192

Steve4192 — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:11:15 +0000

For those of you bitching about the Kimbo-Alexander scoring, here is the fightmetric report.

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Slice-Alexander.html

It shows rounds 1 & 3 as virtual draws and round 2 as a clear win for Kimbo. In that kind of fight, the only score that would have been ridiculous is 30-27 Alexander. If one judge felt Kimbo eked out a both of those extremely close rounds, then 30-27 Kimbo is perfectly understandable.

I swear some of you guys bitch just for the sake of bitching.

By: Ivan Trembow

Ivan Trembow — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:59:37 +0000

Glenn Trowbridge. Tony Weeks. Dave Hagen. Those are the three judges who scored Kimbo Slice vs. Houston Alexander in favor of Kimbo.

For Trowbridge, it’s another in a long line of bad decisions.

For Weeks, it’s more evidence that he should stick to being a boxing referee (he’s actually a good one).

For Hagen, who scored the fight 30 to 27 in favor of Kimbo, it’s cause for an investigation.

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:34:34 +0000

I don’t know if I would run Henderson-Fedor. There is absolutely no upside to that fight. The same people who want to see it are watching Strikeforce anyway. If Fedor wins he’ll get snide “oh wow he beat a Middleweight….” post-fight comments. And if he loses (and you can never discount that sneaky right hand of Hendo’s) you’ve got an epic disaster of a guy who fights 50 pounds lighter than Fedor beating him. He could come back from losing to a HW, but losing to a Middleweight would kill him forever. And not only would Fedor never recover, but Strikeforce after promoting him as the best Heavyweight in history would never recover either.

By: Alan Conceicao

Alan Conceicao — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:40:11 +0000

I’ve brought them up because it looks ridiculous to see the UFC allowing them to advertise, and apparently most everyone agrees with me on the internet. Do you take issue with that view? Because I think it begging for more problems with the media and general perception than not merging the WEC or having Tito Ortiz headline a PPV.

By: Jeremy (not that Jeremy)

Jeremy (not that Jeremy) — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:47:37 +0000

Alan, this is the second time this month that you’ve brought up “Hoezler Reich” on this site, just based on the results I’m finding doing a web search, and you’re one of only three results…I’m now realizing that’s probably because you misspelled it, but nonetheless, wtf.

The signings in the last year have been largely ridiculous, the TUF coaching thing is just the latest in a long string of moves that make you wonder what happened to the braintrust. How do you manage to turn Forrest into a 350k draw? Pair him with Ortiz. The guy practically guarantees 500k, and Ortiz is one of the biggest draws (per his own self-promotion) in the history of MMA, somehow putting them together is PPV poison.

The matchmaking in WEC is of lower quality than it was as well (although someone needed to be disciplined for that decision, replacing a quality guy like that was a mistake).

They’re not helped by having so many major fighters injured or in disputes right now, but someone is having some really bad ideas and no one is telling them that they are bad.

If the competition wasn’t so anemic right now this would be a great time for someone to capitalize.

By: Anders L

Anders L — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:36:29 +0000

Scott Coker talks.

http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/12/07/scott-coker-talks-dan-henderson-dana-white-and-fedor/#cntnt

By: Anders L

Anders L — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:21:27 +0000

Thanks for the link Fluyid, good to hear from Henderson himself, always polite and professional.

By: Fluyid

Fluyid — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:23:47 +0000

Sherdog.com: How did the UFC’s banning of your clothing brand, Clinch Gear, from their events affect renegotiations?

Henderson: Well, at least I’ll be able to have Clinch Gear on in the cage when I fight for Strikeforce.

The banning didn’t really affect anything though. When the UFC called and said that we could no longer sponsor (other fighters), that we were banned from the UFC, I wasn’t mad at all.

It was more funny to me than anything that they would do that. Dana has stated to me that it was nothing personal and that there were no hard feelings at all. If there were no hard feelings, why would they ban a clothing line?

We already had a deal; we were paying for the right to sponsor guys just like every other sponsor was. For them to come back and say just because Dan hasn’t re-signed a deal yet, we’re banned.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Exclusive-Why-Henderson-Chose-Strikeforce-21378

By: The Gaijin

The Gaijin — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:15:05 +0000

@ Alan…they probably didn’t pay “Kimbo”, but structured a deal with his management company for the rest of it ala Fedor…except without the sneaky ruskies.