Comments on: UFC 105 does average in the cable ratings

By: archerD

archerD — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:00:09 +0000

Oversaturation?…Oh yes, thats why football and baseball never went mainstream. No one wants to see 4 to 6 games EVERY week.

You don’t win over 18-24 yr old boys with short attention spans by putting on 5 fights every 30 days.

By: EJ

EJ — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:59:43 +0000

Yeah except for the fact that the UFC is more like the WWE, regardless of what the haters say the machine keeps on ticking and making money.

Who’d ever think that in a year in which the UFC did 1 million buys in back to back ppv’s a couple of months later it would be doom and gloom. The sillyness of all this only grows when you actually sit back and take it all in and realise just how successfull the UFC is at the momment then you get why talk like that is ridiculous.

By: Manapua

Manapua — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:04:14 +0000

It’s really starting to feel like the last days of WCW are coming. Over saturation due to too may events, the inability to create new stars, the dwindling crowds, and the rushing off of injuries of major stars only to be injured worse.

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:55:12 +0000

Dana adds: “Pulled out of the fight the day before weigh ins again with a laundry list of excuses!!! Let the press ask karo why! Let him explain.”

That’s too bad that Karo can’t get his shit together to fight. There’s a ton of headcases in MMA, but he’s the most upsetting since he’s so damn talented and never reaches his full potential.

By: Robert Poole

Robert Poole — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:51:35 +0000

Oops… “two” straight fights. I typed ahead of my thoughts there.

By: Robert Poole

Robert Poole — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:49:53 +0000

Did anyone actually expect better than these numbers?

It was Randy “I lost three straight fights” Couture vs. a nobody to most people and a really lackluster card lacking serious names on a tape delay (results were on ESPN in the early afternoon) head to head with the biggest Boxing PPV of the year which drew nearly 1.5 to 2 times what the biggest UFC PPV ever drew.

Dana White can bitch about Boxing not giving people match ups they want to see and dying or whatever but Boxing whipped his ass last weekend and did so against a card NOBODY was clamoring to see.

I am an MMA fan. That means I enjoy UFC. I enjoy SF. I like fights. But I am not going to nut hug UFC and pretend these are great numbers because of one demo and I am alternately not going to diss the fact that they got a lower number than they wanted. You’d have to be a moron to think that with a huge amount of fight fans buying the Boxing PPV that UFC was going to do better than it did on Spike with the aforementioned weak card.

By: cutch

cutch — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:42:00 +0000

Dana said on Twitter

“Karo Parisyan has fucked over the UFC, the fans and his opponent again!!! He will not be fighting saturday or ever again in the UFC!!”

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:23:54 +0000

I think their youth has more to do with it. Like pro wrestling can get 4 million viewers but the biggest PPV buyrate they ever got was slightly over a million buys. And the amount of kids watching probably has a huge amount to do with that poor conversion rate. Like, if Chuck Liddell fought on TV a bunch then went on PPV, you’d pay to see him because you liked him. But if your allowance didn’t add up to $45 and mommy doesn’t like you up past 10, it’s another story.

And Kimbo’s fans (read any message board thread or YouTube comments section about him) are very, very young or very, very stupid, one of the two. They don’t seem all that interested in MMA, they’re interested in the Kimbo mythology. Like kids who only watched WWF for Hulk Hogan and didn’t really care about anybody else. And if they’re not young then that’s really sad. I remember back a few years ago new fans who got drawn in from Ultimate Fighter were reviled by older fans (you know, the ones who said stuff like “Ken Shamrock vs. Tito Ortiz at UFC 61 is going to be the best fight in history! I don’t know who’s going to win that one!”) but the Kimbo fans make the posts by Ultimate Fighter fans of 05/06 look like an MMA debate between Zach Arnold and Jordan Breen. They know next to nothing about the UFC beyond “Kimbo is gonna be heavyweight champ soon! He’ll kick every1’s a$$! Don’t tell my mom I swore ok ”

By: The Gaijin

The Gaijin — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:01:54 +0000

They’ve given him away for FREE on both network and cable television (both basic and premium) on numerous occasions, not to mention the number of youtube views – and the one next to impossible thing to do after that is convince people to PAY for it once the expectation of FREE has been created.

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:50:57 +0000

Well that would do a blockbuster number on the freakshow factor of the dancin’ machine coming back to fight beardo. Actually that fight would probably end in a double knockout somehow. That should actually happen on a Dynamite!! in between Giant Silva vs. Jose Canseco and Bob Sapp vs. a midget, not a UFC.

But Kimbo against someone like Cain Velasquez or even Cro Cop or Kongo is more what I’m talking about. Could his tween fans convince mommy and daddy to pay $45 and let them stay up late to see Kimbo. I really think his fanbase is too young to translate to pay per view when he’s the main draw.