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		<title>By: Alan Conceicao</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/11/06/transcript-of-scott-coker-interview-with-fanhouse/comment-page-1/#comment-69943</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Conceicao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon Fitch is probably on for 50K guaranteed in his next fight. Shields made that to fight a less dangerous fighter than he&#039;d likely have to be matched with in the UFC in his last EXC bout. He&#039;d likely be making significantly more than that tonight and in the future should he win tonight. If he loses, he&#039;d probably still be making more than he would in the UFC were he to sign tomorrow.

Again: Guaranteed money trumps virtual &quot;potential money&quot; every time unless you&#039;re the kind of moron who quits a full time job to sell stuff in multi-level marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon Fitch is probably on for 50K guaranteed in his next fight. Shields made that to fight a less dangerous fighter than he&#8217;d likely have to be matched with in the UFC in his last EXC bout. He&#8217;d likely be making significantly more than that tonight and in the future should he win tonight. If he loses, he&#8217;d probably still be making more than he would in the UFC were he to sign tomorrow.</p>
<p>Again: Guaranteed money trumps virtual &#8220;potential money&#8221; every time unless you&#8217;re the kind of moron who quits a full time job to sell stuff in multi-level marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/11/06/transcript-of-scott-coker-interview-with-fanhouse/comment-page-1/#comment-69942</link>
		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t have to hurt their pay structure at all, and they could potentially still sign them on.  With Akiyama (and I think other fighters), they can dangle the big paydays in front of their faces.  Sign Shields on for slightly less then Fitch.  If he gets a title shot, he gets more money in that bout.  If he become champion, it bumps up again.  Those dollars amounts, Strikeforce would not be able to compete with.

Doesn&#039;t mean all those guys would sign up, but surely some of them would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t have to hurt their pay structure at all, and they could potentially still sign them on.  With Akiyama (and I think other fighters), they can dangle the big paydays in front of their faces.  Sign Shields on for slightly less then Fitch.  If he gets a title shot, he gets more money in that bout.  If he become champion, it bumps up again.  Those dollars amounts, Strikeforce would not be able to compete with.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t mean all those guys would sign up, but surely some of them would.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Conceicao</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/11/06/transcript-of-scott-coker-interview-with-fanhouse/comment-page-1/#comment-69940</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Conceicao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He doesn&#039;t &quot;have to be taken away&quot;, particularly if you&#039;ve convinced yourselves that Strikeforce is going to wind up killing themselves. For the UFC, he doesn&#039;t bring anything to the table in terms of drawing power, he can&#039;t sell a PPV, etc. etc. etc. Signing guys like him to big contracts to get them away from Strikeforce brings them the same problem that Dan Henderson does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He doesn&#8217;t &#8220;have to be taken away&#8221;, particularly if you&#8217;ve convinced yourselves that Strikeforce is going to wind up killing themselves. For the UFC, he doesn&#8217;t bring anything to the table in terms of drawing power, he can&#8217;t sell a PPV, etc. etc. etc. Signing guys like him to big contracts to get them away from Strikeforce brings them the same problem that Dan Henderson does.</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/11/06/transcript-of-scott-coker-interview-with-fanhouse/comment-page-1/#comment-69939</link>
		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He has some worth.  As Jake Shields, the fighter, he isn&#039;t worth much.

As Jake Shields, the guy who has been taken away from Strikeforce, he does have some value.  Add that value to also getting Nick Diaz, Gilbert Melendez, and perhaps 1 or 2 other solid fighters.... And very the sum of those parts do give them some worthy....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has some worth.  As Jake Shields, the fighter, he isn&#8217;t worth much.</p>
<p>As Jake Shields, the guy who has been taken away from Strikeforce, he does have some value.  Add that value to also getting Nick Diaz, Gilbert Melendez, and perhaps 1 or 2 other solid fighters&#8230;. And very the sum of those parts do give them some worthy&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Conceicao</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/11/06/transcript-of-scott-coker-interview-with-fanhouse/comment-page-1/#comment-69938</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Conceicao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The assumption from you guys is that Shields hasn&#039;t been in contact with the UFC at any point. Newsflash: He isn&#039;t worth anything to them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The assumption from you guys is that Shields hasn&#8217;t been in contact with the UFC at any point. Newsflash: He isn&#8217;t worth anything to them.</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/11/06/transcript-of-scott-coker-interview-with-fanhouse/comment-page-1/#comment-69935</link>
		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t realize Strikeforce had a champion&#039;s clause.  Fighters continue to amaze me with the stupid things they do.  Champion clauses make sense if you are signing on with the UFC/WEC or K-1/DREAM because they are both established big time promotions.  It makes no sense for people who sign on with Strikeforce or Bellator.

And I do hope the UFC game eventually gets moved over to EA.  Of course their game could flop in terms of gameplan, but it is unlikely.  Better gameplan and the UFC license makes all the sense in the world for both companies.

Mark... Please no Cruiserweight Division.  It continued to be the worst idea in MMA.  The Heavyweight Division has constantly been ruled by 230 to 235 pound athletes.  The big guys are typically more of a liability.  Lesnar is the exception to the rule....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realize Strikeforce had a champion&#8217;s clause.  Fighters continue to amaze me with the stupid things they do.  Champion clauses make sense if you are signing on with the UFC/WEC or K-1/DREAM because they are both established big time promotions.  It makes no sense for people who sign on with Strikeforce or Bellator.</p>
<p>And I do hope the UFC game eventually gets moved over to EA.  Of course their game could flop in terms of gameplan, but it is unlikely.  Better gameplan and the UFC license makes all the sense in the world for both companies.</p>
<p>Mark&#8230; Please no Cruiserweight Division.  It continued to be the worst idea in MMA.  The Heavyweight Division has constantly been ruled by 230 to 235 pound athletes.  The big guys are typically more of a liability.  Lesnar is the exception to the rule&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The LW division had been going on a really hit-n-miss year before Penn committed to it. Who was the UFC pushing as their top lightweights in 2006 while BJ Penn was planning on fighting at Welterweight? Sean Sherk and Kenny Florian fought for the title and Jens Pulver was going to return to be their ace with Joe Stevenson as the gatekeeper. None of those names were highly respected with the exception of Pulver, and he got KOed his first fight in to begin his total decline. But you know what happened? A bunch of then-unknown fighters had a bunch of exciting fights and became stars. Then people cared about the division because most of the fights stole shows and BJ Penn coming in was just the icing on the cake since everybody hated the Steroid Shark as champion.

And here&#039;s a shocker for you: building a division that way isn&#039;t just exclusive to the UFC: it is possible for anybody to do it. If you get a group of exciting fighters who have show stealing performances, word of mouth will eventually spread to make them respected in their weight classes and stars will be born. You can say the UFC will just immediately lure them away when their contracts go up, but you cannot say it is impossible. 

Another thing about Strikeforce vs. UFC&#039;s LHW divisions is that the UFC&#039;s LHW division has been strong at the expense of their HW division. Most of their LHW&#039;s could fight at HW if they wanted to, but they cutdown to 205 to be more effective. Thus far it looks like Strikeforce with Fedor and Overeem are going to go for more of a smaller HW talent pool than UFC&#039;s current giants era for the most part. PRIDE worked that way too but you never noticed it because they had a hodgepodge of 200-180 weights all under the Middleweight banner until towards the end so you might as well not cut weight at fight at HW there. UFC could have easily split up their LHW division a little and put Liddell and others fighting at 215-220, which is why when Sylvia was champion lots of people jokingly referred to the 205 title as the real heavyweight title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The LW division had been going on a really hit-n-miss year before Penn committed to it. Who was the UFC pushing as their top lightweights in 2006 while BJ Penn was planning on fighting at Welterweight? Sean Sherk and Kenny Florian fought for the title and Jens Pulver was going to return to be their ace with Joe Stevenson as the gatekeeper. None of those names were highly respected with the exception of Pulver, and he got KOed his first fight in to begin his total decline. But you know what happened? A bunch of then-unknown fighters had a bunch of exciting fights and became stars. Then people cared about the division because most of the fights stole shows and BJ Penn coming in was just the icing on the cake since everybody hated the Steroid Shark as champion.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a shocker for you: building a division that way isn&#8217;t just exclusive to the UFC: it is possible for anybody to do it. If you get a group of exciting fighters who have show stealing performances, word of mouth will eventually spread to make them respected in their weight classes and stars will be born. You can say the UFC will just immediately lure them away when their contracts go up, but you cannot say it is impossible. </p>
<p>Another thing about Strikeforce vs. UFC&#8217;s LHW divisions is that the UFC&#8217;s LHW division has been strong at the expense of their HW division. Most of their LHW&#8217;s could fight at HW if they wanted to, but they cutdown to 205 to be more effective. Thus far it looks like Strikeforce with Fedor and Overeem are going to go for more of a smaller HW talent pool than UFC&#8217;s current giants era for the most part. PRIDE worked that way too but you never noticed it because they had a hodgepodge of 200-180 weights all under the Middleweight banner until towards the end so you might as well not cut weight at fight at HW there. UFC could have easily split up their LHW division a little and put Liddell and others fighting at 215-220, which is why when Sylvia was champion lots of people jokingly referred to the 205 title as the real heavyweight title.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;45 Huddle&lt;/strong&gt; - &lt;em&gt;&quot;Bring in Jake Shields now. Why sign? Why not keep your options open? Let your Strikeforce contract run out and see who the highest bidder is. The $5,000 is NOT worth what you are losing out on. The UFC Welterweight Division is stacked, but is still slim on legit title contenders.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Strikeforce/CBS has an even stricter champions clause than UFC. If Shields wins the title tonight he&#039;ll be locked up at Strikeforce for a while. By the time he&#039;s able to fulfil his contract and sign for UFC the UFC will have signed with EA anyways (there&#039;s 0% chsnce UFC will re-sign with THQ when EA are bidding for the license next year at renewal time). So earning the $5000 for the game now is in his best interests.

If Shields really wanted to go to the UFC anytime soon he shouldn&#039;t have taken this title fight. This is the type of decision you make when you don&#039;t have a real manager...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>45 Huddle</strong> &#8211; <em>&#8220;Bring in Jake Shields now. Why sign? Why not keep your options open? Let your Strikeforce contract run out and see who the highest bidder is. The $5,000 is NOT worth what you are losing out on. The UFC Welterweight Division is stacked, but is still slim on legit title contenders.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Strikeforce/CBS has an even stricter champions clause than UFC. If Shields wins the title tonight he&#8217;ll be locked up at Strikeforce for a while. By the time he&#8217;s able to fulfil his contract and sign for UFC the UFC will have signed with EA anyways (there&#8217;s 0% chsnce UFC will re-sign with THQ when EA are bidding for the license next year at renewal time). So earning the $5000 for the game now is in his best interests.</p>
<p>If Shields really wanted to go to the UFC anytime soon he shouldn&#8217;t have taken this title fight. This is the type of decision you make when you don&#8217;t have a real manager&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You Scott Coker....

He allowed WAMMA in the building for this fight.... Despite it only being 3 rounds, Fedor/Rogers is for the WAMMA Belt... They even posed with a new belt at the press conference....

Why oh why can&#039;t promoters have a clue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You Scott Coker&#8230;.</p>
<p>He allowed WAMMA in the building for this fight&#8230;. Despite it only being 3 rounds, Fedor/Rogers is for the WAMMA Belt&#8230; They even posed with a new belt at the press conference&#8230;.</p>
<p>Why oh why can&#8217;t promoters have a clue?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Conceicao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Conceicao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So they had one guy who was the top guy and he beat everyone. So how did any guy below him gain their top 10 ranking?&lt;/i&gt;

For one, the UFC signed almost mevery prospect imaginable in the US. Then they fought each other while guys in Japan either went inactive, left the division, or lost fights. Strikeforce hasn&#039;t signed every prospect at 205 that&#039;s out there. In fact, they barely have any. Like, 2-3 at most. They don&#039;t have a marquee light heavyweight anywhere on the roster. Hell, the comparison between Penn and Henderson is especially apt. Henderson&#039;s last big win was at 185, and fighting Mousasi would be at 205. Yet, Henderson (who has competed on and off as a serious light heavyweight) would certainly be a top ten guy if he announced he was dedicating himself to that weight class today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So they had one guy who was the top guy and he beat everyone. So how did any guy below him gain their top 10 ranking?</i></p>
<p>For one, the UFC signed almost mevery prospect imaginable in the US. Then they fought each other while guys in Japan either went inactive, left the division, or lost fights. Strikeforce hasn&#8217;t signed every prospect at 205 that&#8217;s out there. In fact, they barely have any. Like, 2-3 at most. They don&#8217;t have a marquee light heavyweight anywhere on the roster. Hell, the comparison between Penn and Henderson is especially apt. Henderson&#8217;s last big win was at 185, and fighting Mousasi would be at 205. Yet, Henderson (who has competed on and off as a serious light heavyweight) would certainly be a top ten guy if he announced he was dedicating himself to that weight class today.</p>
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