Nog having a jacked up knee, and almost winding up dead from his battle with staph, discredits Frank Mur’s victory and he’s obviously got a sandy vagina from it.

Frank Mur is a douche and a poor sport who intentionally tries to injure people. Get over yourself asshole!

IDK..

So he takes the fight, winds up on a loss due in part to his injury/condition and he’s called an idiot for taking the bout hurt. It’s a no-win.

I can’t seem to remember Nog every crying about the Mir loss or making excuses. He referenced it in a post-fight interview with regards to why he looked so much better this time out. Everything else was just speculation.

@ 45 Huddle, I think your sweeping generalisation of Brazilian MMA fighters is a tad ignorant (I don’t want to go as far as to use the ‘R’ word, but thats what it boils down to)…I’ve seen [INSERT 5 AMERICAN MMA FIGHTER'S NAMES] make excuses for their losses…are they part of some ‘American excuse machine’?

And you’re such a wizard on the ground, you know how to play dead when you’re getting your face pounded in.

That fight told us absolutely nothing about Maia and absolutely nothing about Marquardt. Just like Andrei/Rogers told us nothing about either guy.

A rematch between Nog and Mir solves nothing if Mir wins more excuses will be made by the Nog fanatics and if he losses then it will just justify the excuses by said fanatics.

Simply put excuses don’t mean a damn thing, Nog fougth Mir and was destroyed it wasn’t close or controversial. People looking back and trying to make excuses and crying about it does nothing but make then and Nog look bad man up and take a loss like Maia did.

With that said, there needs to be consquences to the Nick Diaz and Sean Sherk’s of the world. NFL & MLB players can’t skip drug tests. Neither should MMA fighters be able to.

Any fighter skipping a drug test needs to be suspended an automatic one year, unless they have some really good excuse (like getting in an accident on the way to taking the exam).

“Word of the injury got out on the evening of 9/2, a few hours after he was scheduled to take a random drug test by the California State Athletic Commission. He didn’t get on the flight to California and when he no-showed, UFC informed the commission that Sherk was injured and was off the card.”

I wasn’t referring to you specifically as much as the whole. I think your whole approach of anybody who disagrees with Mir is just a deluded fanboy is hilarious and crass. Sorry.

There is an article by Leland Rolling on the mainpage of BE right now asking the same questions; why are people supporting Mir in this after he ran Brandon Vera down after Vera beat him?

Fighters make and have legitimate excuses sometimes. I firmly agree with anybody who says that Mir had a good excuse for his losses; he had a possibly career-threatening injury, he was super depressed and abusing pills. I’m fine with that, just like I’m fine with Nog having some pretty bad injuries that prevented him from performing well.

You know how we solve this? Rematch, then it is done. I’ve never been a Frank Mir fan, I’ve always thought he was an overhyped product of UFC. Dude has two non-UFC fights, and was mainly a “discovery” by Joe Silva. He has three victories over impressive opponents in his entire career; Sylvia, a green Lesnar and an injured Nogueira.

Compare that with Nogueira’s career and its hard to really compare. If Mir takes Nog in a rematch, its cool, Mir turned his potential into a reality, otherwise he is just a product of hype and wasted talent.

HOWEVER and this is true of all fighters not just Nog, an excuse made after a fight is always going to aim to demean the actions and victory of your opponent.

He could have pulled out of the fight, but he didn’t he chose to fight, either thinking he could win, wanting the money or for other reasons not aired, if you enter the ring/octagon/cage you leave the excuses at the door, you haven’t been forced to fight.

Its not a classy move to belittle the performance of Mir by blaming it on an excuse, I hate nothing more than the BUT and IF [insert injury, training camp moan, personal problem etc].

As I said its not relevant to just NOG all the fighters do it, but I can sympathise why MIR would be annoyed, it was his highest profile win to date (post-accident) and put him right up there in the mix again.

Fighters, leave the excuses at the door and remember you could have pulled out.