Comments on: Did Jay Hieron get screwed over again?

By: Phil

Phil — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:29:21 +0000

Actually, if you are producing/putting on a live TV sports event, you DO need to have a crystal ball/be able to predict the future, that’s part of the game.

If Jay was told his fight was going to be on TV, which it looks like happened, it should have been on TV. Especially with the way the card ran out.

There’s nothing wrong with them starting the fight early if they get scared of the card going over at the last second. But, after the first 3 fights that were scheduled for a total of 11 rounds end with less than 5 rounds of action, put the fight on taped.

You told the fighters it would be on TV, you told the fans it would be on TV. The fighters told their sponsors it would be on TV. Having the show go longer can’t really hurt, and no one is really going to turn away if the fight is that boring because most were watching to see Gina.

By: Jeremy (not that Jeremy)

Jeremy (not that Jeremy) — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:08:29 +0000

I don’t know what they did or didn’t veto, I’m not in the room or on the call. However, it definitely makes it harder to book fights when you’re copromoting. It’s hard enough arranging fights in UFC or strikeforce that don’t involve M-1.

By: Ivan Trembow

Ivan Trembow — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:13:24 +0000

That’s why I also included the line “and/or proverbial carrots being dangled in front of his face.” The person using the “mmalogic” alias on Bloody Elbow said a couple of weeks ago that Zuffa has been making it known to fighters who are under contract with Strikeforce that if they finish out their Strikeforce contracts without losing (ie, without fighting Fedor), then they’ll have a big-money offer waiting for them in the UFC.

According to the person using the “mmalogic” alias, this was designed to sabotage Strikeforce’s matchmaking and to ensure that all of Strikeforce’s heavyweights demand more money (from Strikeforce), because those fighters are risking their under-the-table UFC deals if they take a fight and lose in Strikeforce.

If there’s anyone who thinks that the UFC would not engage in contract tampering while someone is still under contract to another MMA promotion, consider the fact that Dana White publicly said he was going after Vitor Belfort in a pre-taped segment on national television during the TUF finale in June (a statement that there’s no way he would have made unless he had already reached at least a tentative agreement with Belfort), then White said a few days later on Steve Cofield’s radio show that he had no memory of ever saying such a thing, and that Vitor Belfort is under contract to another MMA promotion (at which point Cofield wisely moved on without asking any follow-up questions).

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:20:50 +0000

Ivan — Overeem can’t claim hand injury when he has a scheduled kickboxing match in the Netherlands in October, can he? I mean, sure he can, but if he does it’ll be incredibly transparent.

By: Alan Conceicao

Alan Conceicao — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:17:50 +0000

I am confused as to what you are complaining about, Jeremy. Are you complaining that Fedor’s camp probably veto’ed Rodriguez?

By: Jeremy (not that Jeremy)

Jeremy (not that Jeremy) — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:09:21 +0000

Yeah, it would be outrageous for M-1 to have Fedor fight the man Strikeforce puts in front of him. That’s not what co-promotion’s all about.

By: Ivan Trembow

Ivan Trembow — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:06:21 +0000

Sherdog is reporting that Ricco Rodriguez is not going to be Fedor’s first opponent in Strikeforce. Whew! I don’t know how that rumor got started, but I’m glad it’s not true, because that would have been ridiculous.

Fedor’s first fight in Strikeforce should be against Alistair Overeem, but if it’s not (due to Overeem’s hand and/or proverbial carrots being dangled in front of his face), then it should be against Brett Rogers or Fabricio Werdum.

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:30:10 +0000

45, I think it makes perfect sense, actually. If Diaz/Hieron went on as scheduled, the Werdum fight wouldn’t of aired.

Now that I think about it, it is rather convenient that Diaz/Hieron didn’t happen, as scheduling a night around 4 title fights is pretty damned difficult.

I still think it is hilarious that this shit is what is being discussed and not a good show. I mean, I know this is typical, but c’mon.

By: Henry

Henry — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:50:27 +0000

” If he wants to be in the UFC, he probably should not have been in the EA video game….I mean, it does not take a genius to figure out that if there is a UFC video game out there, joining up with a game that is going to be its direct (and only) competitor would be a bad idea.”

Not to mention, the EA deal is said to be worth between $5,000 to $15,000. I’m not sure if those are the right numbers, but I wonder if EA made it worth while to sign the deal knowing it puts fighters in a situation where they may not fight in the UFC for quite sometime.

By: Detective Roadblock

Detective Roadblock — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:42:52 +0000

Joe Silva tells guys when he books them if they’re going to be on TV, Fluyid. The first two fights can fluctuate. But guys know when they line up sponsors where they will be. Jay is in a bad spot listening to Randy and Ken Pavia. Both guys have a track record of screwing fighters to get what is in their best interest.