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	<title>Comments on: Jenna Jameson gave birth to twin boys on Monday</title>
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		<title>By: jmechanic</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmechanic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you met a guy through a friend and you became friends with him, and then you found out that he jerks off on a webcam for a living, youre telling me that you would not feel or treat him any differently?

A porn star having a child is a strange concept. The biggest porn star in the world having a baby with Tito Ortiz is an absolutely bizarre concept.  

If Jenna Jameson wants to fuck hundreds of guys for the world to watch, plastic-surgery herself out to the point of looking like a freak, and then have twin baby Tito Ortizes, then I&#039;m sorry, there are comments that are going to be made about it.

What is all this moralistic crap about misogyny???  She is a f%$cking pornstar!!!! She has made her millions on misogyny!!  

Seriously you people like Trembow need to keep your moralizing crap to yourself.  Like I said, if you found out your wife was a longtime pornstar, and you just never bothered to ask, I think you might have a problem with it.  So take your non-judgemental, holier-than-thou attitude and go sermonize somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you met a guy through a friend and you became friends with him, and then you found out that he jerks off on a webcam for a living, youre telling me that you would not feel or treat him any differently?</p>
<p>A porn star having a child is a strange concept. The biggest porn star in the world having a baby with Tito Ortiz is an absolutely bizarre concept.  </p>
<p>If Jenna Jameson wants to fuck hundreds of guys for the world to watch, plastic-surgery herself out to the point of looking like a freak, and then have twin baby Tito Ortizes, then I&#8217;m sorry, there are comments that are going to be made about it.</p>
<p>What is all this moralistic crap about misogyny???  She is a f%$cking pornstar!!!! She has made her millions on misogyny!!  </p>
<p>Seriously you people like Trembow need to keep your moralizing crap to yourself.  Like I said, if you found out your wife was a longtime pornstar, and you just never bothered to ask, I think you might have a problem with it.  So take your non-judgemental, holier-than-thou attitude and go sermonize somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Trembow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan Trembow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spacedog--- Even that is inconsistent.  There was no doubt that Cheick Kongo intentionally struck his opponent in the groin in his last fight, but there was no punishment for it because it just happened to be shortly after his opponent landed what appeared to be an accidental low blow.

My point wasn&#039;t that Nurse intentionally put vaseline on St. Pierre&#039;s back (because I don&#039;t know whether he did intentionally or not), my point was that he put vaseline on St. Pierre&#039;s back, and that there seems to be a double standard at work in the NSAC&#039;s logic.

On a separate note: You stay classy, Yahoo Sports headline writers! &quot;Mailbag: Hamill comments heard loud, clear&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spacedog&#8212; Even that is inconsistent.  There was no doubt that Cheick Kongo intentionally struck his opponent in the groin in his last fight, but there was no punishment for it because it just happened to be shortly after his opponent landed what appeared to be an accidental low blow.</p>
<p>My point wasn&#8217;t that Nurse intentionally put vaseline on St. Pierre&#8217;s back (because I don&#8217;t know whether he did intentionally or not), my point was that he put vaseline on St. Pierre&#8217;s back, and that there seems to be a double standard at work in the NSAC&#8217;s logic.</p>
<p>On a separate note: You stay classy, Yahoo Sports headline writers! &#8220;Mailbag: Hamill comments heard loud, clear&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: spacedog</title>
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		<dc:creator>spacedog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more point, Ivan, there are many rules where intention matters. Take a groin shot. If a fighter accidently kicks another in the twig and berries than its usually no harm no foul and a five min rest. If the Ref, or SAC thought it was intentional you would see some major shit come down.
Look at Babalu. fighters hold chokes all the time and usually they are thought to be &quot;caught up in the heat of battle&quot; but Babalu said that he INTENDED to hold the choke a little too long and hey presto all the difference in the world. A fine and suspension? (don&#039;t remember) plus he was dropped like a hot rock from the UFC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more point, Ivan, there are many rules where intention matters. Take a groin shot. If a fighter accidently kicks another in the twig and berries than its usually no harm no foul and a five min rest. If the Ref, or SAC thought it was intentional you would see some major shit come down.<br />
Look at Babalu. fighters hold chokes all the time and usually they are thought to be &#8220;caught up in the heat of battle&#8221; but Babalu said that he INTENDED to hold the choke a little too long and hey presto all the difference in the world. A fine and suspension? (don&#8217;t remember) plus he was dropped like a hot rock from the UFC.</p>
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		<title>By: spacedog</title>
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		<dc:creator>spacedog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;vaseline being illegally applied to a fighter’s back, which undeniably did happen&quot;

Ivan, you are so far from right about this. First off, as I have pointed out, vaseline was not applied to his back. Your use of words suggests, and would be taken to mean by a normal person, that vaseline  was directly and intentionally applied to GSP&#039;s back- as in straight out of the bottle.
Applied means put directly on. I apply sun block to my face, if some gets on my arm when I wipe my brow you would not say I also applied sun block onto my arm.

An incidental amount of left over vaseline was applied to GSP&#039;s temples, neck, shoulders, and THEN back.
Only Phil Nurse knows if this was intentional.

If you can&#039;t see the difference between this and steroids than you need to stop posting and go take a critical thinking course.

As for punishments, as 45 and many others, including the NSAC have pointed out, no rules were broken, so I&#039;m unclear why you think GSP should be punished. Rule change to avoid this problem sure but no rules were broke. Thankfully cooler heads than yours run these agencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;vaseline being illegally applied to a fighter’s back, which undeniably did happen&#8221;</p>
<p>Ivan, you are so far from right about this. First off, as I have pointed out, vaseline was not applied to his back. Your use of words suggests, and would be taken to mean by a normal person, that vaseline  was directly and intentionally applied to GSP&#8217;s back- as in straight out of the bottle.<br />
Applied means put directly on. I apply sun block to my face, if some gets on my arm when I wipe my brow you would not say I also applied sun block onto my arm.</p>
<p>An incidental amount of left over vaseline was applied to GSP&#8217;s temples, neck, shoulders, and THEN back.<br />
Only Phil Nurse knows if this was intentional.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t see the difference between this and steroids than you need to stop posting and go take a critical thinking course.</p>
<p>As for punishments, as 45 and many others, including the NSAC have pointed out, no rules were broken, so I&#8217;m unclear why you think GSP should be punished. Rule change to avoid this problem sure but no rules were broke. Thankfully cooler heads than yours run these agencies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Allcorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Allcorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>45, obviously you &amp; I are going to have to agree to disagree on this matter.

While you certainly have every right to your own opinions &amp; moral beliefs, I&#039;m not at all comfortable judging a woman based on her past. Even if that past involved something like sex for money or many, often multiple sexual partners.

I mean, honestly, though we may all like to believe that our significant others stepped out of a convent just prior to meeting us, that&#039;s not reality. So, IMO, whether she be a virgin or a former-porn star, a woman deserves respect regardless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>45, obviously you &amp; I are going to have to agree to disagree on this matter.</p>
<p>While you certainly have every right to your own opinions &amp; moral beliefs, I&#8217;m not at all comfortable judging a woman based on her past. Even if that past involved something like sex for money or many, often multiple sexual partners.</p>
<p>I mean, honestly, though we may all like to believe that our significant others stepped out of a convent just prior to meeting us, that&#8217;s not reality. So, IMO, whether she be a virgin or a former-porn star, a woman deserves respect regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not have ladies of the night.  Just saying if I ever had a chance with a porn star (which I wouldn&#039;t), it wouldn&#039;t be anything serious.  They all seem crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not have ladies of the night.  Just saying if I ever had a chance with a porn star (which I wouldn&#8217;t), it wouldn&#8217;t be anything serious.  They all seem crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, so, 45 has &quot;ladies of the night&quot; in his life? As this thread has turned apologist, I&#039;ll say good for you, 45, keep up the great work.

I don&#039;t think anybody is trivializing a woman giving birth as much as looking at the absurdity of Tito Ortiz and Jenna Jameson as parents. It is nothing about them as people as much as their pasts and the attention that they&#039;ll get as well as the children will get. 

We can open up our arms and embrace said couple&#039;s kids and pretend to be above the rest of the world, or just admit that it is ridiculous that the most famous pornstar of all time and one of the most famous MMA fighters of all time (in his own mind).

err, had kids and are probably going to be media whores about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, so, 45 has &#8220;ladies of the night&#8221; in his life? As this thread has turned apologist, I&#8217;ll say good for you, 45, keep up the great work.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anybody is trivializing a woman giving birth as much as looking at the absurdity of Tito Ortiz and Jenna Jameson as parents. It is nothing about them as people as much as their pasts and the attention that they&#8217;ll get as well as the children will get. </p>
<p>We can open up our arms and embrace said couple&#8217;s kids and pretend to be above the rest of the world, or just admit that it is ridiculous that the most famous pornstar of all time and one of the most famous MMA fighters of all time (in his own mind).</p>
<p>err, had kids and are probably going to be media whores about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ultimo Santa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ultimo Santa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh the humanity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh the humanity!</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for post #25.... I know of females who are related to me (not part of the immediate family) who I would classify as &quot;whores&quot; for their actions.

So while my comments weren&#039;t as bad as other&#039;s... I&#039;m talking about Jenna no differently then I would about my own family.  If somebody is having sex for money... she&#039;s a whore.  And she should be open to all the amounts of laughter that comes with the profession.

Lastly, I wouldn&#039;t marry a woman who was a porn star.  I would be wrapping it and throwing her to the curb... Or perhaps she would be throwing me to the curb.  Who knows.  A woman who gives away her body for a living lacks a certain self worth.  What are a few more insults?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for post #25&#8230;. I know of females who are related to me (not part of the immediate family) who I would classify as &#8220;whores&#8221; for their actions.</p>
<p>So while my comments weren&#8217;t as bad as other&#8217;s&#8230; I&#8217;m talking about Jenna no differently then I would about my own family.  If somebody is having sex for money&#8230; she&#8217;s a whore.  And she should be open to all the amounts of laughter that comes with the profession.</p>
<p>Lastly, I wouldn&#8217;t marry a woman who was a porn star.  I would be wrapping it and throwing her to the curb&#8230; Or perhaps she would be throwing me to the curb.  Who knows.  A woman who gives away her body for a living lacks a certain self worth.  What are a few more insults?</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the current rules, GSP did not do anything illegal.  Do those rules need to be changed?  Probably.

However, they can&#039;t punish a guy, or make a fight a no contest if a rule was not broken.

The NSAC is doing nothing wrong here.  If they did what you are implying they should do (which is take disciplinary action against GSP), they could open up a huge can of worms by not following their own rules.  And that would make no sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the current rules, GSP did not do anything illegal.  Do those rules need to be changed?  Probably.</p>
<p>However, they can&#8217;t punish a guy, or make a fight a no contest if a rule was not broken.</p>
<p>The NSAC is doing nothing wrong here.  If they did what you are implying they should do (which is take disciplinary action against GSP), they could open up a huge can of worms by not following their own rules.  And that would make no sense.</p>
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