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	<title>Comments on: Justin Levens and wife found shot dead</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got to rant again here, my apologies. Fred is right. I&#039;m really, really tired of the MMA blogosphere turning into a bunch of Chicken Little&#039;s every time something bad happens in MMA. If we listen to some of these idiots then MMA would have been shut down: after Sherk &amp; Franca tested positive for steroids, after PRIDE got caught with the Yakuza, after the last Elite CBS Show, and countless other &quot;THE SKY IS FALLING!&quot; incidents of the past 2 years.

Some guy nobody remembered is going to bring it down? It&#039;s like saying a 3rd string lineman who washed out of the NFL after 2 games would destroy pro football for killing his wife. And that the media would care the same way they would if a Manning Brother did it. A big star like Randy Couture killing Kim, maybe. This is going to have a short shelf life. And Dana is easily as teflon as Vince McMahon is anyway. A quick &quot;He fought here twice and we let him go for being lousy. We gave him all medical and drug tests under commission standard in his 2 fights.&quot; from Dana and the media won&#039;t care anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to rant again here, my apologies. Fred is right. I&#8217;m really, really tired of the MMA blogosphere turning into a bunch of Chicken Little&#8217;s every time something bad happens in MMA. If we listen to some of these idiots then MMA would have been shut down: after Sherk &amp; Franca tested positive for steroids, after PRIDE got caught with the Yakuza, after the last Elite CBS Show, and countless other &#8220;THE SKY IS FALLING!&#8221; incidents of the past 2 years.</p>
<p>Some guy nobody remembered is going to bring it down? It&#8217;s like saying a 3rd string lineman who washed out of the NFL after 2 games would destroy pro football for killing his wife. And that the media would care the same way they would if a Manning Brother did it. A big star like Randy Couture killing Kim, maybe. This is going to have a short shelf life. And Dana is easily as teflon as Vince McMahon is anyway. A quick &#8220;He fought here twice and we let him go for being lousy. We gave him all medical and drug tests under commission standard in his 2 fights.&#8221; from Dana and the media won&#8217;t care anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: The face of a (alleged) shooter &#124; FightOpinion.com - Your Global Connection to the Fight Industry.</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/12/18/justin-levens-and-wife-found-shot-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-56248</link>
		<dc:creator>The face of a (alleged) shooter &#124; FightOpinion.com - Your Global Connection to the Fight Industry.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] updates on the death of Justin Levens and his wife. First, The LA Times reports the following: A handgun was found near Justin Levens&#8217; body, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quote of the Day: Deadspin Shines Again</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/12/18/justin-levens-and-wife-found-shot-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-56245</link>
		<dc:creator>Quote of the Day: Deadspin Shines Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Leland Roling</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/12/18/justin-levens-and-wife-found-shot-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-56241</link>
		<dc:creator>Leland Roling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that the media won&#039;t be regarding his MMA career as the cause due to his losing streak, suspension that stopped him from making money... no no, they&#039;ll liken MMA fighters&#039; mentalities to that of psychotic killers, that must be why they love the sport so much, right?

That&#039;s what will happen. Many people are simply stating that this is always going to happen, and it will. I just think it&#039;s sad that the mainstream media literally feeds off stories like this to rile up a bunch of overly conservative people who believe MMA is still &quot;human cockfighting&quot;.

It is sensationalism and ratings that their after, and that what the sport will have to put up with from time to time as things like this are bound to happen again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that the media won&#8217;t be regarding his MMA career as the cause due to his losing streak, suspension that stopped him from making money&#8230; no no, they&#8217;ll liken MMA fighters&#8217; mentalities to that of psychotic killers, that must be why they love the sport so much, right?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what will happen. Many people are simply stating that this is always going to happen, and it will. I just think it&#8217;s sad that the mainstream media literally feeds off stories like this to rile up a bunch of overly conservative people who believe MMA is still &#8220;human cockfighting&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is sensationalism and ratings that their after, and that what the sport will have to put up with from time to time as things like this are bound to happen again.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Trembow</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/12/18/justin-levens-and-wife-found-shot-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-56240</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Trembow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Sherdog update on this:

&quot;Authorities also took into custody what appeared to be prescribed painkillers and anti-depressant medication, though they were not found in the standard-marked pharmaceutical containers denoting whom they belonged to.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Sherdog update on this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Authorities also took into custody what appeared to be prescribed painkillers and anti-depressant medication, though they were not found in the standard-marked pharmaceutical containers denoting whom they belonged to.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: More on that Levens death - Fightlinker - MMA, UFC, and other funny fight crap</title>
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		<dc:creator>More on that Levens death - Fightlinker - MMA, UFC, and other funny fight crap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mouth. So if you want to keep up with the Justin Levens situation, then I&#8217;d point you towards FightOpinion where Zach and his commenters are doing a good job of breaking the situation (and the media&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mouth. So if you want to keep up with the Justin Levens situation, then I&#8217;d point you towards FightOpinion where Zach and his commenters are doing a good job of breaking the situation (and the media&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Allcorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Allcorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it does turn out that Levens was the one who pulled the trigger, I wouldn&#039;t completely disregard his MMA career as a contributing factor. What with the long losing streak he&#039;d been on &amp; his apparent drug addiction.
But, he could have just as likely been a disillusioned factory worker &amp; done the same damn thing IMO.

I believe that the people who do this sort of thing are just pre-disposed to do it because of their make up &amp; mental illness &amp; ANY sort of low point in their lives could trigger it. No matter what they did for a living.

I went through a tragedy like this myself with my ( then ) brother in law &amp; my four year old nephew back on New Years Eve of 1980.
He was separated from my sister &amp; had just been laid off at the local Nabisco plant when my sister dropped my nephew off at his place for visitation. During which, he made the insane decision to kill his own son &amp; then, unlike in most similar cases, lost his nerve during the subsequent suicide attempt.

Needless to say, he&#039;s spent what&#039;s remained of his life in prison &amp; in an institution for the criminally insane.

My point being that, his horrific actions didn&#039;t prove to place a black mark on all the other employees of Nabisco back then.
Nor should what Levens may have done in any way disparage those individuals who make their living fighting in MMA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it does turn out that Levens was the one who pulled the trigger, I wouldn&#8217;t completely disregard his MMA career as a contributing factor. What with the long losing streak he&#8217;d been on &amp; his apparent drug addiction.<br />
But, he could have just as likely been a disillusioned factory worker &amp; done the same damn thing IMO.</p>
<p>I believe that the people who do this sort of thing are just pre-disposed to do it because of their make up &amp; mental illness &amp; ANY sort of low point in their lives could trigger it. No matter what they did for a living.</p>
<p>I went through a tragedy like this myself with my ( then ) brother in law &amp; my four year old nephew back on New Years Eve of 1980.<br />
He was separated from my sister &amp; had just been laid off at the local Nabisco plant when my sister dropped my nephew off at his place for visitation. During which, he made the insane decision to kill his own son &amp; then, unlike in most similar cases, lost his nerve during the subsequent suicide attempt.</p>
<p>Needless to say, he&#8217;s spent what&#8217;s remained of his life in prison &amp; in an institution for the criminally insane.</p>
<p>My point being that, his horrific actions didn&#8217;t prove to place a black mark on all the other employees of Nabisco back then.<br />
Nor should what Levens may have done in any way disparage those individuals who make their living fighting in MMA.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His Myspace page is now set to private and was last updated 12/18/08.  Who had access to his Myspace page?  Or did Myspace themselves do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His Myspace page is now set to private and was last updated 12/18/08.  Who had access to his Myspace page?  Or did Myspace themselves do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a mistake for those of us who love MMA to anxiously analyze the &quot;tone&quot; of the mainstream media, hoping that they don&#039;t bash MMA too much.  The mainstream media is into two things:  sensationalism and ratings. Every story they do is geared to hyping up sensation and getting more viewers. Their reporting of this story is going to be overblown and flawed just like their reporting of everything else.   It&#039;s not a surprise that they got Andrei Arlovski&#039;s name wrong, and it&#039;s not a surprise that they are playing up Levens&#039; UFC experience, even though his UFC tenure was very brief.

What we fans need to do is to look for comment from investigators on the case, and family, friends and training partners who actually knew Justin.  If they choose to discuss this, they might have some insight as to what happened or what he may have been dealing with.  At this point, we don&#039;t know what happened, and the mainstream media doesn&#039;t know either. Ignore the excesses of the stupid mainstream media. The investigators and any folks who knew Justin personally may have the answers in time.

People who love MMA will continue to love MMA.  People who hate or do not understand MMA will continue to be ignorant.  Sensational media coverage of this tragedy won&#039;t change one type of person into the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a mistake for those of us who love MMA to anxiously analyze the &#8220;tone&#8221; of the mainstream media, hoping that they don&#8217;t bash MMA too much.  The mainstream media is into two things:  sensationalism and ratings. Every story they do is geared to hyping up sensation and getting more viewers. Their reporting of this story is going to be overblown and flawed just like their reporting of everything else.   It&#8217;s not a surprise that they got Andrei Arlovski&#8217;s name wrong, and it&#8217;s not a surprise that they are playing up Levens&#8217; UFC experience, even though his UFC tenure was very brief.</p>
<p>What we fans need to do is to look for comment from investigators on the case, and family, friends and training partners who actually knew Justin.  If they choose to discuss this, they might have some insight as to what happened or what he may have been dealing with.  At this point, we don&#8217;t know what happened, and the mainstream media doesn&#8217;t know either. Ignore the excesses of the stupid mainstream media. The investigators and any folks who knew Justin personally may have the answers in time.</p>
<p>People who love MMA will continue to love MMA.  People who hate or do not understand MMA will continue to be ignorant.  Sensational media coverage of this tragedy won&#8217;t change one type of person into the other.</p>
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		<title>By: mma curmudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>mma curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloody Elbow with the usual trenchant analysis:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/12/18/696654/quote-of-the-day-deadspin

They called Andrei &quot;Sergei?&quot;  That changes EVERYTHING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloody Elbow with the usual trenchant analysis:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/12/18/696654/quote-of-the-day-deadspin" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/12/18/696654/quote-of-the-day-deadspin</a></p>
<p>They called Andrei &#8220;Sergei?&#8221;  That changes EVERYTHING!</p>
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