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	<title>Comments on: Jon Fitch signs video game agreement, is back in UFC</title>
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		<title>By: cyph</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does the UFC need to play good cop/bad cop just to get Fitch to sign? The UFC doesn&#039;t need Fitch, but Fitch needs the UFC. To think that there&#039;s this elaborate scheme just to sign Fitch is ridiculous.

Fitch backed down, and Lorenzo being the voice of reason, gave Fitch the chance to save face because Dana came on too hard because things were said. Lorenzo could have very well not sign Fitch, and AKA would have still fell back in line. 

Should we not credit Lorenzo for being the voice of reason or do we say he and White concocted this big PR scheme with with all the theatrics just to get Fitch to sign? The simpler explanation is always best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does the UFC need to play good cop/bad cop just to get Fitch to sign? The UFC doesn&#8217;t need Fitch, but Fitch needs the UFC. To think that there&#8217;s this elaborate scheme just to sign Fitch is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Fitch backed down, and Lorenzo being the voice of reason, gave Fitch the chance to save face because Dana came on too hard because things were said. Lorenzo could have very well not sign Fitch, and AKA would have still fell back in line. </p>
<p>Should we not credit Lorenzo for being the voice of reason or do we say he and White concocted this big PR scheme with with all the theatrics just to get Fitch to sign? The simpler explanation is always best.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave2,

GSP&#039;s deal with CAA has nothing to do with MMA. They only work to secure him endorsement deals and do no work regarding his MMA contracts, his manager still does all of his contract work.

A question: Why does ATT&#039;s statement mean they are kissing ass. Is it not pos they simply have no issues with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave2,</p>
<p>GSP&#8217;s deal with CAA has nothing to do with MMA. They only work to secure him endorsement deals and do no work regarding his MMA contracts, his manager still does all of his contract work.</p>
<p>A question: Why does ATT&#8217;s statement mean they are kissing ass. Is it not pos they simply have no issues with this?</p>
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		<title>By: dragomort</title>
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		<dc:creator>dragomort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zuffa has the power to make or break fighter careers and doing tactics like this will provide Zuffa with more leverage and power for a large gain with little short-term cost. I can see why they&#039;d choose to do it from that perspective. However, just because they can and will try to do such things it hardly makes a case for us having to accept it on any level. Also, knowledge of business matters and disgust at ethical violations involved in those decisions are not mutually exclusive by nature, only by our own rationalizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zuffa has the power to make or break fighter careers and doing tactics like this will provide Zuffa with more leverage and power for a large gain with little short-term cost. I can see why they&#8217;d choose to do it from that perspective. However, just because they can and will try to do such things it hardly makes a case for us having to accept it on any level. Also, knowledge of business matters and disgust at ethical violations involved in those decisions are not mutually exclusive by nature, only by our own rationalizations.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Rome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Rome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports told ESPNRadio1100 in a radio interview on Thursday that during a telephone interview with White on Wednesday, Fertitta was just as impassioned and could be heard in the background backing strongly exactly what the very angry White was saying about Fitch.&quot;

Whoops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports told ESPNRadio1100 in a radio interview on Thursday that during a telephone interview with White on Wednesday, Fertitta was just as impassioned and could be heard in the background backing strongly exactly what the very angry White was saying about Fitch.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whoops.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Rome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Rome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is the main problem with comprehension is a bunch of people analyzing business decisions as moral decisions, and having no idea how large companies are run.

Fitch and his management played hardball and got slapped.  Real dumb to play hardball when you have no leverage.

End result:  Fitch signs away his rights, all other camps bow in fear, and no risk in the future of guys not signing.

The &quot;pr nightmare&quot; is limited to hardcore messageboards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is the main problem with comprehension is a bunch of people analyzing business decisions as moral decisions, and having no idea how large companies are run.</p>
<p>Fitch and his management played hardball and got slapped.  Real dumb to play hardball when you have no leverage.</p>
<p>End result:  Fitch signs away his rights, all other camps bow in fear, and no risk in the future of guys not signing.</p>
<p>The &#8220;pr nightmare&#8221; is limited to hardcore messageboards.</p>
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		<title>By: Grape Knee High</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grape Knee High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with cyph here.  I don&#039;t think it is an intentional good cop/bad cop scenario.

The problem here is that the MMA hand-wringers -- thanks for the term, Total MMA --  think that whenever Zuffa does something &quot;bad&quot; it is intentional because they already are disposed to thinking of Zuffa as the devil.

Any of you who have ever employed or managed people at their workplace (and it is obvious that this number is extremely small amongst MMA fans), then you&#039;d know the position that Lorenzo is in.

The Fertittas provided the capital and the political connections, but Dana is the face of the UFC and is the primary driver of its success.  Regardless of his faults, Dana made the UFC into what it is today and Lorenzo takes the good with the bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with cyph here.  I don&#8217;t think it is an intentional good cop/bad cop scenario.</p>
<p>The problem here is that the MMA hand-wringers &#8212; thanks for the term, Total MMA &#8212;  think that whenever Zuffa does something &#8220;bad&#8221; it is intentional because they already are disposed to thinking of Zuffa as the devil.</p>
<p>Any of you who have ever employed or managed people at their workplace (and it is obvious that this number is extremely small amongst MMA fans), then you&#8217;d know the position that Lorenzo is in.</p>
<p>The Fertittas provided the capital and the political connections, but Dana is the face of the UFC and is the primary driver of its success.  Regardless of his faults, Dana made the UFC into what it is today and Lorenzo takes the good with the bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You really don’t understand what socialism is, do you?

The Total-MMA column was completely, 100% right.&quot;

Of course I know what Socialism, Communism, Marxism, etc. other wealth spreading -isms are.  I was getting at more about workers rights and lack of benefits over type of government.

Could you even call China Socialist anymore?  Because I don&#039;t think making Barbie dolls and Sony products for less than an American dollar an hour for foreigners is very &quot;Socialist&quot;.  Wouldn&#039;t a more &quot;Socialist&quot; position be to make Chinese products FOR Chinese people, working under Chinese companies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You really don’t understand what socialism is, do you?</p>
<p>The Total-MMA column was completely, 100% right.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course I know what Socialism, Communism, Marxism, etc. other wealth spreading -isms are.  I was getting at more about workers rights and lack of benefits over type of government.</p>
<p>Could you even call China Socialist anymore?  Because I don&#8217;t think making Barbie dolls and Sony products for less than an American dollar an hour for foreigners is very &#8220;Socialist&#8221;.  Wouldn&#8217;t a more &#8220;Socialist&#8221; position be to make Chinese products FOR Chinese people, working under Chinese companies?</p>
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		<title>By: cyph</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget that Lorenzo has just recently been full time with the UFC. All those other cases you cited when Dana flew off the handle before was when Dana White ran the thing full time. Did they do good cop/bad cop when Lorenzo was still running Station Casino? I find that hard to believe. 

There is nothing out of the ordinary with Dana White to think that this is all acting. He is who he is. Besides, what did the UFC gain from this by going this route? They just created a public spat that diminished UFC management in the public&#039;s eyes, and while they put the fighters&#039; management on notice, it&#039;s not in a good way. Now more than ever, the fighters&#039; management are distrustful of UFC management. This has been a PR disaster. Good cop/bad cop scenario is so stupid that it does not compute. Lorenzo is a smarter man than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that Lorenzo has just recently been full time with the UFC. All those other cases you cited when Dana flew off the handle before was when Dana White ran the thing full time. Did they do good cop/bad cop when Lorenzo was still running Station Casino? I find that hard to believe. </p>
<p>There is nothing out of the ordinary with Dana White to think that this is all acting. He is who he is. Besides, what did the UFC gain from this by going this route? They just created a public spat that diminished UFC management in the public&#8217;s eyes, and while they put the fighters&#8217; management on notice, it&#8217;s not in a good way. Now more than ever, the fighters&#8217; management are distrustful of UFC management. This has been a PR disaster. Good cop/bad cop scenario is so stupid that it does not compute. Lorenzo is a smarter man than that.</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cyph,

I disagree.  Dana White can&#039;t be a push-over.  He just can&#039;t. Not even a perception of being a pushover.  With so many fighters and camps, they need a &quot;hard a$$&quot; doing the majority of the contract talks.  This prevents these fight camps from trying to get exceptions (which over time is bad for the company). And when those straight arm tactics don&#039;t work, Fertitta is there to make good on things.

I don&#039;t disagree that Dana White is a douche bag in many cases.  However, if he wasn&#039;t doing his job as Lorenzo wanted him to, he would have lost his power a while ago and only been a talking head for the company (which typically he is still good at).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cyph,</p>
<p>I disagree.  Dana White can&#8217;t be a push-over.  He just can&#8217;t. Not even a perception of being a pushover.  With so many fighters and camps, they need a &#8220;hard a$$&#8221; doing the majority of the contract talks.  This prevents these fight camps from trying to get exceptions (which over time is bad for the company). And when those straight arm tactics don&#8217;t work, Fertitta is there to make good on things.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree that Dana White is a douche bag in many cases.  However, if he wasn&#8217;t doing his job as Lorenzo wanted him to, he would have lost his power a while ago and only been a talking head for the company (which typically he is still good at).</p>
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		<title>By: dave2</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pathetic to see American Top Team kiss The Dana&#039;s ass like that. AKA caved in but I think Monte Cox may have the testicular fortitude to put up a fight. Also if GSP ever got into a dispute with the UFC, his mega sports agency would eat Zuffa for breakfast. Zuffa is bush league compared to the major sports leagues that GSP&#039;s agency regularly deals with.

It disappoints me that Zuffa is willing to drop a fighter over not signing a n exclusive lifetime video game contract. Barry Bonds and many other athletes have opted out of just being put into a video game and they are still in their respective leagues. A premier sports organization shouldn&#039;t be cutting athletes just because they won&#039;t sign a video game contract. Tactics like this make Zuffa bush league and makes the UFC into more of a shoot version of WWE rather than a mainstream sports organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pathetic to see American Top Team kiss The Dana&#8217;s ass like that. AKA caved in but I think Monte Cox may have the testicular fortitude to put up a fight. Also if GSP ever got into a dispute with the UFC, his mega sports agency would eat Zuffa for breakfast. Zuffa is bush league compared to the major sports leagues that GSP&#8217;s agency regularly deals with.</p>
<p>It disappoints me that Zuffa is willing to drop a fighter over not signing a n exclusive lifetime video game contract. Barry Bonds and many other athletes have opted out of just being put into a video game and they are still in their respective leagues. A premier sports organization shouldn&#8217;t be cutting athletes just because they won&#8217;t sign a video game contract. Tactics like this make Zuffa bush league and makes the UFC into more of a shoot version of WWE rather than a mainstream sports organization.</p>
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