The management made many mistakes, chief of which was hyping Kimbo’s lame @ss in the first place. EXC did provide some decent cards and fights, so it wasn’t really a loss for the fans; but it’s hard to understand how any management group could be so careless with money to promote a talentless novice as their headliner.

Second, stop being so damn touchy. This is the internet. If people call your opinion stupid and you a fool, out-argue them. So far all I see is your poorly-developed analysis and whining when people call you on it.

Yes, if any individual promised money to Seth Petruzelli in exchange for not attempting takedowns (ie, manipulating a sporting event on which sportsbooks take bets), they could and should be prosecuted. If Petruzelli received and accepted such an offer, then he could and should be prosecuted as well.

This is a bigger story than anything else that happened last weekend. There needs to be an investigation of this by the proper authorities… and by that, I don’t mean that they should ask Petruzelli and he denies it (contradicting his own previous statements), and then they ask the EliteXC executive who was yelling at the referee (Jared Shaw) and he denies it, and they ask other EliteXC executives and they deny it, and then everyone just throws their hands up in the air and says, “Oh well, what are you gonna do?”

There should be a criminal investigation conducted by the police in Florida, because if Petruzelli’s original comments are accurate, then we’re talking about criminal acts being committed by both Petruzelli and whoever the EliteXC executive is that he made the “no takedowns” agreement with.

The police in the appropriate Florida county should interview Petruzelli and any EliteXC executive that could have potentially been involved.

Then, if anyone is later found to have lied to investigators, that itself is a crime for which they could be prosecuted.

In addition to a criminal investigation conducted by police to determine if any criminal charges are warranted, the Florida State Athletic Commission should also be conducting its own investigation.

If Petruzelli’s original statements are accurate, then the athletic commission should also be trying to determine who it is at EliteXC that Petruzelli had a “no takedowns” agreement with. If such an agreement existed, you would think that the Florida State Athletic Commission would no longer be willing to grant promoter’s licenses to any individuals involved, and you would think that they would no longer be willing to grant a fighters’ license to Petruzelli if he accepted the offer.

Thank you for contributing to the conversation and enforcing my point about how some people can’t discuss without being a prick.

And for the record, I don’t morally approve of EITHER promotion’s tactics. XC is obviously far worse and I’m not downplaying the gravity of the situation, but at the same time I think that offering ANY incentives to finish a fight a certain way (whether submission or knockout) is bogus. Do you understand what I’m saying?

I really hate how condescending a lot of MMA followers on the internet are. This thread is an example of how you can’t have a conversation in which people disagree without a superfan being a dick (I’m referring to 45 and Zach). I respect your opinions and your knowledge, but you don’t need to be snobby pricks because you disagree with me. Have a pleasant evening.

Sorry you feel that way, but I’m not arguing with you much on an emotional level. I’m arguing on a logical level as far as comparing and contrasting the attempts to try to tie Petruzelli’s comments versus the line of thinking that match fixing is similar to UFC’s bonus system. It’s not.

If someone’s premise is to use moral equivalency between the two things, then I don’t know what else you can say to that person to change their minds.

As far as this discussion of MMA fans being ‘condescending’, I’d say that fans have a good reason to be cynical about what they’re seeing with Elite XC given the opening that Petruzelli gave in media circles about possibly being paid to stand up during his fight. Match fixing is a felony, after all, if it can be proven in a court of law. Why do you think the charges are being taken so seriously?

That’s what I’m saying, I’m of the opinion that it’s not an entirely different concept, so let’s agree to disagree.

I really hate how condescending a lot of MMA followers on the internet are. This thread is an example of how you can’t have a conversation in which people disagree without a superfan being a dick (I’m referring to 45 and Zach). I respect your opinions and your knowledge, but you don’t need to be snobby pricks because you disagree with me. Have a pleasant evening.