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	<title>Comments on: Media headlines coming out of EXC Florida event</title>
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		<title>By: Terry Querns</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/10/04/media-headlines-coming-out-of-exc-florida-event/comment-page-1/#comment-53117</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Querns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing Kevin Iole write about &quot;basic journalistic principles&quot; is like seeing former NYT reporter Jayson Blair write about the perils of plagarism.  The same guy didn&#039;t have a problem with the UFC not acknowledging for months that Randy Couture quit or that Sean Sherk failed a drug test. Nobody is more openly in the can for any company than Kevin Iole is for the UFC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing Kevin Iole write about &#8220;basic journalistic principles&#8221; is like seeing former NYT reporter Jayson Blair write about the perils of plagarism.  The same guy didn&#8217;t have a problem with the UFC not acknowledging for months that Randy Couture quit or that Sean Sherk failed a drug test. Nobody is more openly in the can for any company than Kevin Iole is for the UFC.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (not that Jeremy)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy (not that Jeremy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always enjoy reading an exceptionally long post that restates exactly what I said while claiming to disagree with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always enjoy reading an exceptionally long post that restates exactly what I said while claiming to disagree with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/10/04/media-headlines-coming-out-of-exc-florida-event/comment-page-1/#comment-53097</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Burkholder.  Gina Carano definitely deserves some respect.  Because unlike Kimbo Slice, Carano proved that she can be a top level fighter.  Maybe not THE best, but definitely top five or so.  But she should go up in weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Burkholder.  Gina Carano definitely deserves some respect.  Because unlike Kimbo Slice, Carano proved that she can be a top level fighter.  Maybe not THE best, but definitely top five or so.  But she should go up in weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Allcorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Allcorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but Jer. I beg to differ.

While Lesner lost &amp; lost quickly to Mir, it was a much less damaging loss than the one suffered by Kimbo last night. As it was to a former UFC Heavyweight Champion in his debut with the company in what was ( to the general public anyhow ) his MMA debut.

And he lost it by falling to his opponents experience &amp; expertise after dominating Mir for the first minute. So, the public was left with the perception that &quot;this guy has a future&quot; despite the quick schooling.

Kimbo on the other hand, was basically KTFO by a total unknown ( again, to the vast majority of those viewing ) who was brought in at the very last moment &amp; someone who was a MUCH smaller individual.  In 14 seconds.

It&#039;s impossible for Kimbo to retain even a shred of his mystique after that IMO. He&#039;s done.

I mean, think about it. His whole game was built on his followers &amp; fans believing in his supposed invincibility. The idea that this guy was such a bad ass that he could come in off the streets &amp; destroy trained, seasoned pros in the cage.
A belief that every neighborhood toughguy &amp; all those brawlers on their barstools wanted so desperately to believe.

A belief that was validated by four VERY carefully arranged matches over the past two years. Against an aged boxer looking for an quick buck, a cowardly marine who was tapping before a solid blow could&#039;ve even registered, a fat old brawler who was a decade removed from his prime &amp; against a brittle bearded Brit who went into the fight already maimed &amp; disfigured. 
It was such an obvious illusion accomplished with smoke &amp; mirrors that  many who should have really  known better fell for it because it was actually SO cliche that  it caused these folks to out think themselves into accepting the ruse.

But, ice cold reality slapped them out of their stupor last night with a resounding CRACK!
And there&#039;s no worse enemy to make than those who&#039;ve been made to look foolish. Whether that be the television network executives, the advertisers, the press or the folks watching at home. 
they&#039;re all going to turn on Slice in an angry feeding frenzy now. No doubt about it.

Again, I think he&#039;s done.

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but Jer. I beg to differ.</p>
<p>While Lesner lost &amp; lost quickly to Mir, it was a much less damaging loss than the one suffered by Kimbo last night. As it was to a former UFC Heavyweight Champion in his debut with the company in what was ( to the general public anyhow ) his MMA debut.</p>
<p>And he lost it by falling to his opponents experience &amp; expertise after dominating Mir for the first minute. So, the public was left with the perception that &#8220;this guy has a future&#8221; despite the quick schooling.</p>
<p>Kimbo on the other hand, was basically KTFO by a total unknown ( again, to the vast majority of those viewing ) who was brought in at the very last moment &amp; someone who was a MUCH smaller individual.  In 14 seconds.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible for Kimbo to retain even a shred of his mystique after that IMO. He&#8217;s done.</p>
<p>I mean, think about it. His whole game was built on his followers &amp; fans believing in his supposed invincibility. The idea that this guy was such a bad ass that he could come in off the streets &amp; destroy trained, seasoned pros in the cage.<br />
A belief that every neighborhood toughguy &amp; all those brawlers on their barstools wanted so desperately to believe.</p>
<p>A belief that was validated by four VERY carefully arranged matches over the past two years. Against an aged boxer looking for an quick buck, a cowardly marine who was tapping before a solid blow could&#8217;ve even registered, a fat old brawler who was a decade removed from his prime &amp; against a brittle bearded Brit who went into the fight already maimed &amp; disfigured.<br />
It was such an obvious illusion accomplished with smoke &amp; mirrors that  many who should have really  known better fell for it because it was actually SO cliche that  it caused these folks to out think themselves into accepting the ruse.</p>
<p>But, ice cold reality slapped them out of their stupor last night with a resounding CRACK!<br />
And there&#8217;s no worse enemy to make than those who&#8217;ve been made to look foolish. Whether that be the television network executives, the advertisers, the press or the folks watching at home.<br />
they&#8217;re all going to turn on Slice in an angry feeding frenzy now. No doubt about it.</p>
<p>Again, I think he&#8217;s done.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: dave2</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lesnar thing was different. Lesnar wasn&#039;t the UFC&#039;s meal ticket. No one is the UFC&#039;s meal ticket. They do not rely on any one fighter because they know that you can&#039;t just do that in the fight game. ProElite had everything riding on Kimbo. ProElite probably won&#039;t see 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lesnar thing was different. Lesnar wasn&#8217;t the UFC&#8217;s meal ticket. No one is the UFC&#8217;s meal ticket. They do not rely on any one fighter because they know that you can&#8217;t just do that in the fight game. ProElite had everything riding on Kimbo. ProElite probably won&#8217;t see 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (not that Jeremy)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy (not that Jeremy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This doesn&#039;t have to be the end for Kimbo and EliteXC.  UFC brought in Lesnar and he lost to Mir, and it doesn&#039;t seem to have significantly diluted his PPV appeal.

Of course, Lesnar lost a debut fight in his promotion that it looked like he had a shot of winning and nearly did win to a former champion, and although Zuffa was clearly relying on Lesnar to help rebuild their ailing heavyweight division, they had plenty of other draws available to fill cards at other weights.

This is a little different.

I presume that the next ShoXC event is still going to happen as scheduled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t have to be the end for Kimbo and EliteXC.  UFC brought in Lesnar and he lost to Mir, and it doesn&#8217;t seem to have significantly diluted his PPV appeal.</p>
<p>Of course, Lesnar lost a debut fight in his promotion that it looked like he had a shot of winning and nearly did win to a former champion, and although Zuffa was clearly relying on Lesnar to help rebuild their ailing heavyweight division, they had plenty of other draws available to fill cards at other weights.</p>
<p>This is a little different.</p>
<p>I presume that the next ShoXC event is still going to happen as scheduled.</p>
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		<title>By: PizzaChef</title>
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		<dc:creator>PizzaChef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got to say...Even though EliteXC is a trash company, their CBS cards somehow always produce entertaining fights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to say&#8230;Even though EliteXC is a trash company, their CBS cards somehow always produce entertaining fights.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the words of Hywel Teague:
http://notesfromringside.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/notes-from-in-front-of-my-pc-elitexc/
&quot;Everyone is talking about how the EliteXC bubble just got burst.

I’d say that it was more like EliteXC was a big fart set on fire. It was crude, it was crass, it wasn’t to everyone’s tastes, but to those who cared, it was plain hilarious.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of Hywel Teague:<br />
<a href="http://notesfromringside.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/notes-from-in-front-of-my-pc-elitexc/" rel="nofollow">http://notesfromringside.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/notes-from-in-front-of-my-pc-elitexc/</a><br />
&#8220;Everyone is talking about how the EliteXC bubble just got burst.</p>
<p>I’d say that it was more like EliteXC was a big fart set on fire. It was crude, it was crass, it wasn’t to everyone’s tastes, but to those who cared, it was plain hilarious.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: catch</title>
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		<dc:creator>catch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was front page of yahoo.com with a huge kimbo picture for a while. As for the attendance, I was in the crowd and I&#039;d say the part of the stadium they were actually selling tickets for was more than 90% full. They only used a half stadium, and the 400 level was closed off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was front page of yahoo.com with a huge kimbo picture for a while. As for the attendance, I was in the crowd and I&#8217;d say the part of the stadium they were actually selling tickets for was more than 90% full. They only used a half stadium, and the 400 level was closed off.</p>
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