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	<title>Comments on: Showtime gives EXC $1 million USD; EXC fails to get $3.5 million USD in financing</title>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You guys really don’t get my stream of thought but that’s understandable as I’ve been tokin’ all day.&quot;

Okay, new rule!  If you are high (on anything, whether it&#039;s weed or paint thinner, or whatever) and you are about to post on a message board or comment section.  Do the following:

1.) Stop yourself, breathe in, breathe out, count to ten
2.) Click out of the website and wait until you sobered up so you don&#039;t waste valuable web space on your pot-induced drivel.

Anywho, I am really worrying about the future of EXC.  I think they will last longer than IFL has, but man did Proelite blow away tons of money.  And most of what management, right?  Gary Shaw should stick to boxing and bithc about fighters not making weight and how it &quot;hurts his business and financial well-being&quot; (even though he makes a manatee look like a flamingo in comparison).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You guys really don’t get my stream of thought but that’s understandable as I’ve been tokin’ all day.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, new rule!  If you are high (on anything, whether it&#8217;s weed or paint thinner, or whatever) and you are about to post on a message board or comment section.  Do the following:</p>
<p>1.) Stop yourself, breathe in, breathe out, count to ten<br />
2.) Click out of the website and wait until you sobered up so you don&#8217;t waste valuable web space on your pot-induced drivel.</p>
<p>Anywho, I am really worrying about the future of EXC.  I think they will last longer than IFL has, but man did Proelite blow away tons of money.  And most of what management, right?  Gary Shaw should stick to boxing and bithc about fighters not making weight and how it &#8220;hurts his business and financial well-being&#8221; (even though he makes a manatee look like a flamingo in comparison).</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeremy, but I am just not too familiar with those examples you gave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeremy, but I am just not too familiar with those examples you gave.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (not that Jeremy)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy (not that Jeremy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the other counter-example, at least for the moment, is Rogers and the Jays.  They bought them, bought their stadium, rehabbed the stadium, poured a lot of money into the team...it&#039;s a lot more similar to the new ownership at the Red Sox than the Disney, Comcast, or Metromedia cases for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the other counter-example, at least for the moment, is Rogers and the Jays.  They bought them, bought their stadium, rehabbed the stadium, poured a lot of money into the team&#8230;it&#8217;s a lot more similar to the new ownership at the Red Sox than the Disney, Comcast, or Metromedia cases for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think I am spot on with my analysis of the possible Showtime buyout of ProElite.

Why is nobody with me on this? Zach..?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think I am spot on with my analysis of the possible Showtime buyout of ProElite.</p>
<p>Why is nobody with me on this? Zach..?!</p>
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		<title>By: DannyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DannyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a point on the Cubbies. The trib. in a business sense actually did quite amazing in terms or revenue with the Cubs. Not so much for us fans who can&#039;t stand them. Having someone like John McDunna as VP of marketing ect... made the Cubs into the 1.3 Bil. team it is today. But like I said as a fan it was absolutely terrible and for D. cap I think the MMA promoters as they operate today are much more akin to a &quot;pro league&quot; than you realize maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a point on the Cubbies. The trib. in a business sense actually did quite amazing in terms or revenue with the Cubs. Not so much for us fans who can&#8217;t stand them. Having someone like John McDunna as VP of marketing ect&#8230; made the Cubs into the 1.3 Bil. team it is today. But like I said as a fan it was absolutely terrible and for D. cap I think the MMA promoters as they operate today are much more akin to a &#8220;pro league&#8221; than you realize maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (not that Jeremy)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy (not that Jeremy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, D.

I&#039;ve already noted on many occasions that I know nothing about boxing, so you&#039;re even odds in my book.

Since David has just admitted that he&#039;s high, I won&#039;t waste any more effort trying to prove that he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, D.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already noted on many occasions that I know nothing about boxing, so you&#8217;re even odds in my book.</p>
<p>Since David has just admitted that he&#8217;s high, I won&#8217;t waste any more effort trying to prove that he is.</p>
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		<title>By: D.Capitated</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.Capitated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Media companies owning sports ventures has historically not been a good idea. NBC owned a huge chunk of the XFL, several media companies owned teams in the WUSA (you may not remember them, they were a women’s soccer league that lasted all of three seasons), Disney dumped their sports franchises with all due haste as soon as they figured out that they weren’t very good at managing sports teams, News Corp sold the Dodgers (which they had just spent a billion dollars on) to some guy from Boston, and the Tribune Company has been attempting to unload the Cubs for some time now.&lt;/i&gt;

You just talked about a whole bunch of team sports, which MMA isn&#039;t. On the other hand, boxers have been getting signed specifically to HBO for 20 years now, and its been a wildly successful marriage. Somehow, I see what boxing did to be far more applicable than the XFL. However, if this leads to more people posting about how the UFC is a &quot;league&quot; for my entertainment, I&#039;m all for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Media companies owning sports ventures has historically not been a good idea. NBC owned a huge chunk of the XFL, several media companies owned teams in the WUSA (you may not remember them, they were a women’s soccer league that lasted all of three seasons), Disney dumped their sports franchises with all due haste as soon as they figured out that they weren’t very good at managing sports teams, News Corp sold the Dodgers (which they had just spent a billion dollars on) to some guy from Boston, and the Tribune Company has been attempting to unload the Cubs for some time now.</i></p>
<p>You just talked about a whole bunch of team sports, which MMA isn&#8217;t. On the other hand, boxers have been getting signed specifically to HBO for 20 years now, and its been a wildly successful marriage. Somehow, I see what boxing did to be far more applicable than the XFL. However, if this leads to more people posting about how the UFC is a &#8220;league&#8221; for my entertainment, I&#8217;m all for it.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Lappen was the promoter for WFA but he has been in the business for a long time and puts on great cards at EliteXC along with JD, Turi, and Gary the mobster.

&quot;Then to top it off Dana White is running scared to the UK ,and it won’t work because they hate America. All of this equals Elite XC taking over.&quot;

I am saying Dana White is smart for marketing the next TUF as a country vs. country theme.   More so, considering he has already done several shows in that region of the world, the sport probably has a fast growing following which is good because all of the neighbors to the UK (to the east), hopes Dana White, will adopt UFC.

I am also using the nationalism, not to name some brilliant new marketing strategy, but to point fun at the monopolistic, capitalistic, SUCCESSFUL f&#039;in promoter that Dana White is, but how he in some ways resembles George Bush who the international community has come to hate.   I am stating the facts so any people with other political views can pacifically keep them to yourself.

In conclusion, adopting the UK as its central international presence, and using the nationalism theme to (as I can assure you they will exploit) promote turf feuds, he will gain MORE ratings, MORE international market share, and soon to be much more money.

I think this is good for UFC and EliteXC because Showtime could easily KEEP THE WHOLE EliteXC team!

You guys really don&#039;t get my stream of thought but that&#039;s understandable as I&#039;ve been tokin&#039; all day.

Finally, I am saying that corporate backing to an already keen marketing force will most likely lead to more promotional power in pushing big cards, feeding more money (which could also be problematic) to the sport, and pushing competition into UFC territory.

I think Affliction can put on a great show if they have Oscar De La Mota and Fedor on the same card.   I wouldn&#039;t be interested as a fan of MMA but it would definitely get media buzz and a bigger increase in viewership since their premier show.

Thanks all for reading and hope to hear more thoughts now that I have explained myself clearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Lappen was the promoter for WFA but he has been in the business for a long time and puts on great cards at EliteXC along with JD, Turi, and Gary the mobster.</p>
<p>&#8220;Then to top it off Dana White is running scared to the UK ,and it won’t work because they hate America. All of this equals Elite XC taking over.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am saying Dana White is smart for marketing the next TUF as a country vs. country theme.   More so, considering he has already done several shows in that region of the world, the sport probably has a fast growing following which is good because all of the neighbors to the UK (to the east), hopes Dana White, will adopt UFC.</p>
<p>I am also using the nationalism, not to name some brilliant new marketing strategy, but to point fun at the monopolistic, capitalistic, SUCCESSFUL f&#8217;in promoter that Dana White is, but how he in some ways resembles George Bush who the international community has come to hate.   I am stating the facts so any people with other political views can pacifically keep them to yourself.</p>
<p>In conclusion, adopting the UK as its central international presence, and using the nationalism theme to (as I can assure you they will exploit) promote turf feuds, he will gain MORE ratings, MORE international market share, and soon to be much more money.</p>
<p>I think this is good for UFC and EliteXC because Showtime could easily KEEP THE WHOLE EliteXC team!</p>
<p>You guys really don&#8217;t get my stream of thought but that&#8217;s understandable as I&#8217;ve been tokin&#8217; all day.</p>
<p>Finally, I am saying that corporate backing to an already keen marketing force will most likely lead to more promotional power in pushing big cards, feeding more money (which could also be problematic) to the sport, and pushing competition into UFC territory.</p>
<p>I think Affliction can put on a great show if they have Oscar De La Mota and Fedor on the same card.   I wouldn&#8217;t be interested as a fan of MMA but it would definitely get media buzz and a bigger increase in viewership since their premier show.</p>
<p>Thanks all for reading and hope to hear more thoughts now that I have explained myself clearly.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does Lappen stay employed? Wasn&#039;t he the face of the 2nd coming of the WFA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does Lappen stay employed? Wasn&#8217;t he the face of the 2nd coming of the WFA?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (not that Jeremy)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy (not that Jeremy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Media companies owning sports ventures has historically not been a good idea.    NBC owned a huge chunk of the XFL, several media companies owned teams in the WUSA (you may not remember them, they were a women&#039;s soccer league that lasted all of three seasons), Disney dumped their sports franchises with all due haste as soon as they figured out that they weren&#039;t very good at managing sports teams, News Corp sold the Dodgers (which they had just spent a billion dollars on) to some guy from Boston, and the Tribune Company has been attempting to unload the Cubs for some time now.

EXC being bought by Showtime or CBS is not a good indicator of future success based on past results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Media companies owning sports ventures has historically not been a good idea.    NBC owned a huge chunk of the XFL, several media companies owned teams in the WUSA (you may not remember them, they were a women&#8217;s soccer league that lasted all of three seasons), Disney dumped their sports franchises with all due haste as soon as they figured out that they weren&#8217;t very good at managing sports teams, News Corp sold the Dodgers (which they had just spent a billion dollars on) to some guy from Boston, and the Tribune Company has been attempting to unload the Cubs for some time now.</p>
<p>EXC being bought by Showtime or CBS is not a good indicator of future success based on past results.</p>
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