Comments on: Round two of reaction to EXC & Kimbo on CBS http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:40:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: D. Capitated http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-49895 D. Capitated Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:05:16 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/#comment-49895 <i>Somebody live at the event said that Gary Shaw’s son was yelling at the ref to stand the fighters up during the crucifix.</i> And did he? LOL at people pointing out that promoters yell things during fights as if its unique. Somebody live at the event said that Gary Shaw’s son was yelling at the ref to stand the fighters up during the crucifix.

And did he? LOL at people pointing out that promoters yell things during fights as if its unique.

]]> By: 45 Huddle http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-49885 45 Huddle Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:41:28 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/#comment-49885 In typical Sherdog fashion, as soon as the WEC was over with, they put up an article that was about the EliteXC Ratings and the next show which isn't happening for months. Even throughout their podcasts and articles, they have been nothing but pro EliteXC. It is sickening, but it only gives merit to what Dana White said about them. Even there former editor, Josh Gross, completely bashed Kimbo in an article for SI. In typical Sherdog fashion, as soon as the WEC was over with, they put up an article that was about the EliteXC Ratings and the next show which isn’t happening for months.

Even throughout their podcasts and articles, they have been nothing but pro EliteXC. It is sickening, but it only gives merit to what Dana White said about them.

Even there former editor, Josh Gross, completely bashed Kimbo in an article for SI.

]]> By: dmp http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-49884 dmp Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:33:26 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/#comment-49884 Guys like Shaw will eventually ruin MMA with this circus act they put on. The Smith Lawler fight was good on Elite, but beyond that the show was really bad. Too bad Affliction's card in July isn't on CBS or tonight's WEC event wasn't on instead. Guys like Shaw will eventually ruin MMA with this circus act they put on. The Smith Lawler fight was good on Elite, but beyond that the show was really bad. Too bad Affliction’s card in July isn’t on CBS or tonight’s WEC event wasn’t on instead.

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]]> By: The Gaijin http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-49880 The Gaijin Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:57:37 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/#comment-49880 But I'd say it is also par for the course for most drunken idiot fans to scream for stand-ups any time an mma fight hits the ground. So I'll take it all with a grain of salt. In other more positive news - the WEC card sounds like it was great. I didn't catch it but my brother and a few buddies that are mma newbs told me Faber - Pulver was "effin' amazing". But I’d say it is also par for the course for most drunken idiot fans to scream for stand-ups any time an mma fight hits the ground. So I’ll take it all with a grain of salt.

In other more positive news – the WEC card sounds like it was great. I didn’t catch it but my brother and a few buddies that are mma newbs told me Faber – Pulver was “effin’ amazing”.

]]> By: The Gaijin http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-49879 The Gaijin Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:55:26 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/#comment-49879 I think it was more of a punch to the gut of the Kimbo myth more than anything. Gary Shaw et al's big money draw has been exposed at the very least and tainted (at least in the eyes of some). This is the best medicine for shady maneuvering if there was any. And if the ref was actually that impressionable that Gary Shaw's functionally retarded son was able to influence his reffing...then I am speechless and he should be fired. I think it was more of a punch to the gut of the Kimbo myth more than anything.

Gary Shaw et al’s big money draw has been exposed at the very least and tainted (at least in the eyes of some). This is the best medicine for shady maneuvering if there was any.

And if the ref was actually that impressionable that Gary Shaw’s functionally retarded son was able to influence his reffing…then I am speechless and he should be fired.

]]> By: cyph http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-49875 cyph Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:58:14 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/#comment-49875 It doesn't matter if it was a fix or not. Perception = reality. If it looks like a fix, it's pretty hard to convince the fans otherwise. It was a big punch to the gut of the legitimacy of MMA. It doesn’t matter if it was a fix or not. Perception = reality. If it looks like a fix, it’s pretty hard to convince the fans otherwise. It was a big punch to the gut of the legitimacy of MMA.

]]> By: 45 Huddle http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-49873 45 Huddle Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:40:52 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/#comment-49873 Kevin Iole's article is the top article on yahoo.com right now. I actually agree with him this time, but man, he makes me look like a Zuffa hater... Kevin Iole’s article is the top article on yahoo.com right now.

I actually agree with him this time, but man, he makes me look like a Zuffa hater…

]]> By: 45 Huddle http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-49871 45 Huddle Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:12:15 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/#comment-49871 Somebody live at the event said that Gary Shaw's son was yelling at the ref to stand the fighters up during the crucifix. Gary Shaw is bad for the sport. Nothing more, nothing less. Somebody live at the event said that Gary Shaw’s son was yelling at the ref to stand the fighters up during the crucifix.

Gary Shaw is bad for the sport. Nothing more, nothing less.

]]> By: Grape Knee High http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-49869 Grape Knee High Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:09:11 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/06/01/round-two-of-reaction-to-exc-kimbo-on-cbs/#comment-49869 Gaijin, I don't that many people actually think the fight was "fixed". I know I certainly don't. But Miragliotta was most certainly playing favorites, and severe nature of his bias was what was especially galling. I don't think I've ever witnessed a more biased display of reffing in the US. The stand-up from side control was absolutely mind-blowing. Not only did he barely give them any ground time before warning them, he gave Thompson about 2 seconds after the warning before standing them up. During the crucifix -- when Thompson was most certainly staying busy -- Miagliotta actually warned Thompson to stay busy or risk another standup. Another ridiculous moment. Was the lack of a stoppage during the crucifix bad? I don't know if it was terrible, but fights have certainly been stopped for the equivalent (or even less). Think Hughes/Penn 2. Was the final stoppage bad? Not really, but certainly many, many other fights have been let go further under similar circumstances -- Lawler/Smith earlier in the night. It's the sum of all the actions above, not necessarily each considered individually, that makes people wonder wtf was going on. Gaijin, I don’t that many people actually think the fight was “fixed”. I know I certainly don’t.

But Miragliotta was most certainly playing favorites, and severe nature of his bias was what was especially galling. I don’t think I’ve ever witnessed a more biased display of reffing in the US.

The stand-up from side control was absolutely mind-blowing. Not only did he barely give them any ground time before warning them, he gave Thompson about 2 seconds after the warning before standing them up.

During the crucifix — when Thompson was most certainly staying busy — Miagliotta actually warned Thompson to stay busy or risk another standup. Another ridiculous moment.

Was the lack of a stoppage during the crucifix bad? I don’t know if it was terrible, but fights have certainly been stopped for the equivalent (or even less). Think Hughes/Penn 2.

Was the final stoppage bad? Not really, but certainly many, many other fights have been let go further under similar circumstances — Lawler/Smith earlier in the night.

It’s the sum of all the actions above, not necessarily each considered individually, that makes people wonder wtf was going on.

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