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	<title>Comments on: Doing the hard sell for Ken vs. Frank Shamrock</title>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/01/21/doing-the-hard-sell-for-ken-vs-frank-shamrock/comment-page-1/#comment-46679</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was just some humor.  I apologize about my comments.  I am not so much apologizing to 45 Huddle, but to everyone else and to Zach.  My opinions still stand though.  But why didn&#039;t Zach edit my comments?  He could have, especially because they went through the administration process.  I would have had no problems with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was just some humor.  I apologize about my comments.  I am not so much apologizing to 45 Huddle, but to everyone else and to Zach.  My opinions still stand though.  But why didn&#8217;t Zach edit my comments?  He could have, especially because they went through the administration process.  I would have had no problems with that.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gaijin</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/01/21/doing-the-hard-sell-for-ken-vs-frank-shamrock/comment-page-1/#comment-46656</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gaijin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually inclined to agree with cyphron.

There&#039;s no need for the ad homenim attacks nor the absolutely deplorable language and lewd comments made by Chuck.

You want to make a valid argument and points on that argument that&#039;s fine.  But I feel there&#039;s absolutely no room or use on this site for excessive and unnecessary swearing and despicable language (re: how does Dana&#039;s d*** taste? etc.).  It adds absolutely nothing to the argument and shows you don&#039;t have the capability to conduct a debate like a civilized human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually inclined to agree with cyphron.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no need for the ad homenim attacks nor the absolutely deplorable language and lewd comments made by Chuck.</p>
<p>You want to make a valid argument and points on that argument that&#8217;s fine.  But I feel there&#8217;s absolutely no room or use on this site for excessive and unnecessary swearing and despicable language (re: how does Dana&#8217;s d*** taste? etc.).  It adds absolutely nothing to the argument and shows you don&#8217;t have the capability to conduct a debate like a civilized human being.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/01/21/doing-the-hard-sell-for-ken-vs-frank-shamrock/comment-page-1/#comment-46648</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Am I the only person who think Chuck’s comments are way out of line?&quot;

Yes.  Considering that my post went through administration to see if it is a bad comment, and it wasn&#039;t changed in the least bit, I guess you are the only person who thought my comments were out of line.  But wasn&#039;t Huddle&#039;s comments out of line too?  He sounded like a God Damn Communist speaking that anti-competition babble.  And you have to admit it too, 45 Huddle is a fanboy of the worst kind.  He takes MMA way too seriously, he thinks it is an absolute sport that is only about the competition.  He thinks MMA fighters have the same thinking-processes and mind sets on sports that Olympians and competitors in the Goodwill games have on sports, which is to win and go for medals and shit.  But what is the MAIN point in fighting professionally?  To make money, especially doing it if you love it.  Even if you aren&#039;t looking to be a multi-millionaire and mega-stardom, but at least make a more than average pay and make a good living for your family.  And Huddle wants to take all of that away because of his mindset that ONLY the UFC should exist.  It&#039;s a bullshit mind-set, and I can&#039;t stand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Am I the only person who think Chuck’s comments are way out of line?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes.  Considering that my post went through administration to see if it is a bad comment, and it wasn&#8217;t changed in the least bit, I guess you are the only person who thought my comments were out of line.  But wasn&#8217;t Huddle&#8217;s comments out of line too?  He sounded like a God Damn Communist speaking that anti-competition babble.  And you have to admit it too, 45 Huddle is a fanboy of the worst kind.  He takes MMA way too seriously, he thinks it is an absolute sport that is only about the competition.  He thinks MMA fighters have the same thinking-processes and mind sets on sports that Olympians and competitors in the Goodwill games have on sports, which is to win and go for medals and shit.  But what is the MAIN point in fighting professionally?  To make money, especially doing it if you love it.  Even if you aren&#8217;t looking to be a multi-millionaire and mega-stardom, but at least make a more than average pay and make a good living for your family.  And Huddle wants to take all of that away because of his mindset that ONLY the UFC should exist.  It&#8217;s a bullshit mind-set, and I can&#8217;t stand it.</p>
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		<title>By: cyphron</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/01/21/doing-the-hard-sell-for-ken-vs-frank-shamrock/comment-page-1/#comment-46640</link>
		<dc:creator>cyphron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only person who think Chuck&#039;s comments are way out of line?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only person who think Chuck&#8217;s comments are way out of line?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave2</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/01/21/doing-the-hard-sell-for-ken-vs-frank-shamrock/comment-page-1/#comment-46636</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;I’m sure it’s good for the sport though. Competition always is. Right Dave2?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

It would be good to the sport. You take away Tiger Woods and a lot of the &quot;fans&quot; won&#039;t give a damn about the PGA. This would give the PGA the sense to stop being so bad boring for once. When you don&#039;t have competition, you don&#039;t have the incentive to go that extra mile. Without Tiger, they are nothing. He brought in huge money into the sport. Watching Golf sucks, that&#039;s why Tiger Woods is the only reason casual fans watch golf. Heck I won&#039;t even watch golf period Tiger Woods or not.

&lt;em&gt;“No one is threatening to leave the PGA because the pay is low, you know. Not only that, you have to understand the pay structure. There’s appearance fees for top name golfers and purses are won in tournament formats with 200 golfers. MMA has two men walk into a cage, both making guaranteed money just to show up with the assumption that they will fight competitively, sometimes with a win bonus.”&lt;/em&gt;

Exactly. Golf shouldn’t be compared to MMA. Golf is pretty much a leisure hobby and if you are any good, you can get nice prize money. It’s not the same as getting punched in the face. It’s a joke to think MMA fighters should be treated the same as golfers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;I’m sure it’s good for the sport though. Competition always is. Right Dave2?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>It would be good to the sport. You take away Tiger Woods and a lot of the &#8220;fans&#8221; won&#8217;t give a damn about the PGA. This would give the PGA the sense to stop being so bad boring for once. When you don&#8217;t have competition, you don&#8217;t have the incentive to go that extra mile. Without Tiger, they are nothing. He brought in huge money into the sport. Watching Golf sucks, that&#8217;s why Tiger Woods is the only reason casual fans watch golf. Heck I won&#8217;t even watch golf period Tiger Woods or not.</p>
<p><em>“No one is threatening to leave the PGA because the pay is low, you know. Not only that, you have to understand the pay structure. There’s appearance fees for top name golfers and purses are won in tournament formats with 200 golfers. MMA has two men walk into a cage, both making guaranteed money just to show up with the assumption that they will fight competitively, sometimes with a win bonus.”</em></p>
<p>Exactly. Golf shouldn’t be compared to MMA. Golf is pretty much a leisure hobby and if you are any good, you can get nice prize money. It’s not the same as getting punched in the face. It’s a joke to think MMA fighters should be treated the same as golfers.</p>
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		<title>By: D.Capitated</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/01/21/doing-the-hard-sell-for-ken-vs-frank-shamrock/comment-page-1/#comment-46632</link>
		<dc:creator>D.Capitated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But the PGA and Tennis Association have no real competition. And things work out perfectly fine for them.&lt;/i&gt;

No one is threatening to leave the PGA because the pay is low, you know. Not only that, you have to understand the pay structure. There&#039;s appearance fees for top name golfers and purses are won in tournament formats with 200 golfers. MMA has two men walk into a cage, both making guaranteed money just to show up with the assumption that they will fight competitively, sometimes with a win bonus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But the PGA and Tennis Association have no real competition. And things work out perfectly fine for them.</i></p>
<p>No one is threatening to leave the PGA because the pay is low, you know. Not only that, you have to understand the pay structure. There&#8217;s appearance fees for top name golfers and purses are won in tournament formats with 200 golfers. MMA has two men walk into a cage, both making guaranteed money just to show up with the assumption that they will fight competitively, sometimes with a win bonus.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Capitated</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/01/21/doing-the-hard-sell-for-ken-vs-frank-shamrock/comment-page-1/#comment-46629</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Capitated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m sure it’s good for the sport though. Competition always is. Right Dave2?&lt;/i&gt;

Go find some golf fans who think Tiger Woods is bad for the sport. That&#039;s the dumbest thing I&#039;ve ever heard here, and that says a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m sure it’s good for the sport though. Competition always is. Right Dave2?</i></p>
<p>Go find some golf fans who think Tiger Woods is bad for the sport. That&#8217;s the dumbest thing I&#8217;ve ever heard here, and that says a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: IceMuncher</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/01/21/doing-the-hard-sell-for-ken-vs-frank-shamrock/comment-page-1/#comment-46623</link>
		<dc:creator>IceMuncher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There has been serious discussion before in the US sports media about Woods going out on his own. They’ve also cracked about how PGA events without Woods on them have significantly less appeal to the casual fan.&quot;

I&#039;m sure it&#039;s good for the sport though.  Competition always is.  Right Dave2?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There has been serious discussion before in the US sports media about Woods going out on his own. They’ve also cracked about how PGA events without Woods on them have significantly less appeal to the casual fan.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s good for the sport though.  Competition always is.  Right Dave2?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/01/21/doing-the-hard-sell-for-ken-vs-frank-shamrock/comment-page-1/#comment-46622</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But the PGA and Tennis Association have no real competition. And things work out perfectly fine for them.

As for Shamrock/Couture comparison… that is a BS one. The two major Athletic Commissions can clearly see that Shamrock is not the athlete that Couture is in terms of fighting against today’s fighters. He hasn’t even been competitive in a fight since June 2004 against Kimo, who is another washed up fighter.&quot;

Opinions and mind-sets like this keep the sport from getting big.  Who cares how old Shamrock is?  Or how he&#039;s looked in recent fights?  State athletic commissions who decided to aby fighters because they SEEM like they can&#039;t fight anymore is BULLSHIT!!  If you are gonna ban someone from fighting just becasue they LOOK like they can&#039;t fight anymore, then what&#039;s the point of testing fighters.  My stand is this; if a fighter passes his physical, you have to let him/her fight.

And you have the shittiest business acumen EVER!!  Seriously, what&#039;s wrong about competition?  This is America last I checked.  If companies decided to run against UFC or want to get big and become competition, what&#039;s so wrong with that?  And if companies go out of business because pompous jackasses like yourself don&#039;t like it that you &quot;oh so great&quot; UFC has competition and you get your way then that means less fighters, less fighting, and fighters will make less money.  Is that really what you want?

Oh, and I had to laugh about your comment on one organization with a union.  If you believe Dana White and the Fertittas care about the fighters enough that they will start a union and/or a pension plan then I have a beach side resort in Iowa that I want to sell you.  So 45, how does Dana White&#039;s dick taste like this season?

Why I just spent this much time on a retarded person like 45 Huddle, I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But the PGA and Tennis Association have no real competition. And things work out perfectly fine for them.</p>
<p>As for Shamrock/Couture comparison… that is a BS one. The two major Athletic Commissions can clearly see that Shamrock is not the athlete that Couture is in terms of fighting against today’s fighters. He hasn’t even been competitive in a fight since June 2004 against Kimo, who is another washed up fighter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Opinions and mind-sets like this keep the sport from getting big.  Who cares how old Shamrock is?  Or how he&#8217;s looked in recent fights?  State athletic commissions who decided to aby fighters because they SEEM like they can&#8217;t fight anymore is BULLSHIT!!  If you are gonna ban someone from fighting just becasue they LOOK like they can&#8217;t fight anymore, then what&#8217;s the point of testing fighters.  My stand is this; if a fighter passes his physical, you have to let him/her fight.</p>
<p>And you have the shittiest business acumen EVER!!  Seriously, what&#8217;s wrong about competition?  This is America last I checked.  If companies decided to run against UFC or want to get big and become competition, what&#8217;s so wrong with that?  And if companies go out of business because pompous jackasses like yourself don&#8217;t like it that you &#8220;oh so great&#8221; UFC has competition and you get your way then that means less fighters, less fighting, and fighters will make less money.  Is that really what you want?</p>
<p>Oh, and I had to laugh about your comment on one organization with a union.  If you believe Dana White and the Fertittas care about the fighters enough that they will start a union and/or a pension plan then I have a beach side resort in Iowa that I want to sell you.  So 45, how does Dana White&#8217;s dick taste like this season?</p>
<p>Why I just spent this much time on a retarded person like 45 Huddle, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: cyphron</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2008/01/21/doing-the-hard-sell-for-ken-vs-frank-shamrock/comment-page-1/#comment-46621</link>
		<dc:creator>cyphron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ken Shamrock is a year younger than Randy Couture. If you don’t feel that a “left over UFC” event with former UFC stars wouldn’t draw, then what would?&lt;/i&gt;

Wow. Did you just compare Ken Shamrock to Randy Couture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ken Shamrock is a year younger than Randy Couture. If you don’t feel that a “left over UFC” event with former UFC stars wouldn’t draw, then what would?</i></p>
<p>Wow. Did you just compare Ken Shamrock to Randy Couture?</p>
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