Comments on: Yo-Sam Choi dead at age 33

By: Eduardo

Eduardo — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:19:23 +0000

Thanks Mdhan, michaelthebox and Mr. Roadblock.

Makes a lot of sense and it goes as I thought. Here in Brazil people are now questioning the safeness of Boxing and other forms of fighting, etc, etc. But they only think about the danger of the striking themselves, when the danger might lie in other factors such as you mentioned, along with the striking of course.
So, maybe it would be worth to have a discussion about same-day weigh-ins being around one day, forcing fighters to fight more closer to their natural weight. I know it’s difficult and gives little leverage to the promotion in case people miss their weights, but it maybe would be safer for everybody.

By: Michaelthebox

Michaelthebox — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:31:08 +0000

I’m not sure how much of it has to do with the weight cutting, although I’m sure it could play a part. Its just unlikely for a HW to get his ass kicked for 10 rounds without getting KO’ed. The lighter fighters are much more likely to get wailed on for such a long time.

Thats one reason I don’t expect MMA to ever have as many deaths as boxing, because the quality LWs, FWs, and BWs tend to have fights with a lot of grappling and transitions.

By: Mr. Roadblock

Mr. Roadblock — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:04:10 +0000

It’s possible that he cut too much weight for the fight. And that by doing so his body was depleted of the cerebro-spinal fluid that keeps the brain in place in the skull. The brain more or less floats in the skull and the saline like solution it is in is meant to keep the brain for smashing hard against the side of the skull. When you cut weight the cerebro-spinal fluid is one of the last things to come back.

It is interesting to note that all of the boxing deaths come at the low body weights where fighters are cutting up to 15% of their body weights in the final week before a fight. No Heavyweights have died in the ring in recent memory and they hit much harder than the lower weight fighters. It’s believed that the accumulation of blows and the swollen brain repeatedly hitting the skull that kills boxers.

By: mdhan

mdhan — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:58:14 +0000

Eduardo,

IIRC from what I’ve read from the Korean media, it is not likely that the final blows were what directly triggered the cerebral hemorrhage.

By: The Gaijiin

The Gaijiin — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:48:34 +0000

Thanks Michael, truly a sad story.

That actually sounds eerily similar to what happened to Joe Mesi against Jassily Jirov a few years back. Dominating the fight until the final round where he walked on a punched, got knocked down like 3x, then struggled like wild to stay on his feet for the closing bell while taking a beating.

Fortunately Mesi survived, unfortunately he’s attempting a comeback.

By: Eduardo

Eduardo — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:46:37 +0000

I don’t know any details about this fighter’s history, but on the other hand you got to wonder if he had a pre-existing condition, or if the tests before the bout were properly done, how was it sanctioned, etc. Cause it’s very unlikely I think that he would have died truly from the last punches, but most likely he already had some sort of brain injury that he was carrying on I think. =( Very sad.

By: Michaelthebox

Michaelthebox — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:11:00 +0000

Thats sad as hell.

the gaijin: from another article:

“Choi had a comfortable lead going into the 12th round but suffered a knockdown at the hands of Amol which could have possibly led to the post fight collapse. Amol landed a series of vicious left and right hooks just 5 seconds before the end of the fight causing the knockdown.”

It almost sounds like he would have been fine if the fight had ended 20 seconds earlier.

By: The Gaijin

The Gaijin — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:44:45 +0000

Not to sound like a jerk, but if the winner died, how did the loser fare?

Was this a bad decision or something, b/c I don’t think I can think of too many fights where the winner died and the loser walked away.

Though I believe in the Nigel Benn fight, he was on the losing end up until the later stages when he started taking it to McClennan (who didn’t die but was severely injured iirc).

By: Tomer Chen

Tomer Chen — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:44:15 +0000

That’s eerily similar to Duk Koo Kim’s “live or die” message and the mini coffin he brought before the Ray Mancini bout…

By: cyphron

cyphron — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:03:53 +0000

From his diary:
“Not much time is left. Will I be a loser again? I can’t concentrate… I just want to live a simple life in a pretty house on a green landscape with someone I love. Now, I don’t like the smell of blood anymore. I’m just afraid of tomorrow.”

It’s like he had a premonition of his death. Heart breaking. RIP.