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		<title>By: NBC, CBS Considering MMA Programing &#124; UFC Fighting</title>
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		<dc:creator>NBC, CBS Considering MMA Programing &#124; UFC Fighting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to reports both NBC and CBS (and likely other major cable channels as well) are considering adding MMA to their lineup. The move is a response to a recent writers strike which has put many [...]</description>
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		<title>By: D.Capitated</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/11/19/report-nbc-wants-mma-programming/comment-page-1/#comment-42010</link>
		<dc:creator>D.Capitated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Vince’s company is the highest one in Universal in terms of ratings. Now NBC annouces it’s looking for MMA programing. In Vince’s eyes, this is a slap in the face. Especially when the report comes out the same day he has a big named wrestling come back to the company.

So what’s Vince gonna do? He’s going to try to create his own shindig as fast as he can before anyone from office talks to M-1 or IFL and present it to them with Shane forming the head. Possibly buy out Valor and try to hype the trash there as “the best”.

Vince won’t be going into the MMA business because it’s hot. He’ll be going in to “keep his spot” if you will forgive the term. He could give a flying fuck about MMA. He hates that shit.&lt;/i&gt;

But its all assumptive. There&#039;s been no news about Vince McMahon starting an MMA organization, running an MMA organization, promoting an MMA show, et al. It &lt;i&gt;assumes&lt;/i&gt; that because Vince McMahon believes that MMA is a serious challenger (which it may or may not be depending on your POV) that he needs to counter by fighting back with his own MMA organization, in spite of the fact that he doesn&#039;t have one, has never had one, has not run MMA bouts (don&#039;t even think of Brawl For All), has no fighters under contract, etc etc etc.

In the end I don&#039;t think he buys anyone or even seriously considers starting one up, and then given the choice between Vince McMahon&#039;s MMA startup and a firmly established company or even a fairly new one with longstanding connections (like M-1), that will be the route NBC goes rather than tempt fate with a Vince McMahon organization which would be the butt of jokes from the time it was announced to when it folded 9 months later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Vince’s company is the highest one in Universal in terms of ratings. Now NBC annouces it’s looking for MMA programing. In Vince’s eyes, this is a slap in the face. Especially when the report comes out the same day he has a big named wrestling come back to the company.</p>
<p>So what’s Vince gonna do? He’s going to try to create his own shindig as fast as he can before anyone from office talks to M-1 or IFL and present it to them with Shane forming the head. Possibly buy out Valor and try to hype the trash there as “the best”.</p>
<p>Vince won’t be going into the MMA business because it’s hot. He’ll be going in to “keep his spot” if you will forgive the term. He could give a flying fuck about MMA. He hates that shit.</i></p>
<p>But its all assumptive. There&#8217;s been no news about Vince McMahon starting an MMA organization, running an MMA organization, promoting an MMA show, et al. It <i>assumes</i> that because Vince McMahon believes that MMA is a serious challenger (which it may or may not be depending on your POV) that he needs to counter by fighting back with his own MMA organization, in spite of the fact that he doesn&#8217;t have one, has never had one, has not run MMA bouts (don&#8217;t even think of Brawl For All), has no fighters under contract, etc etc etc.</p>
<p>In the end I don&#8217;t think he buys anyone or even seriously considers starting one up, and then given the choice between Vince McMahon&#8217;s MMA startup and a firmly established company or even a fairly new one with longstanding connections (like M-1), that will be the route NBC goes rather than tempt fate with a Vince McMahon organization which would be the butt of jokes from the time it was announced to when it folded 9 months later.</p>
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		<title>By: Royal Babylon</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/11/19/report-nbc-wants-mma-programming/comment-page-1/#comment-41939</link>
		<dc:creator>Royal Babylon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well think of it John

Vince&#039;s company is the highest one in Universal in terms of ratings. Now NBC annouces it&#039;s looking for MMA programing. In Vince&#039;s eyes, this is a slap in the face. Especially when the report comes out the same day he has a big named wrestling come back to the company.

So what&#039;s Vince gonna do? He&#039;s going to try to create his own shindig as fast as he can before anyone from office talks to M-1 or IFL and present it to them with Shane forming the head. Possibly buy out Valor and try to hype the trash there as &quot;the best&quot;.

Vince won&#039;t be going into the MMA business because it&#039;s hot. He&#039;ll be going in to &quot;keep his spot&quot; if you will forgive the term. He could give a flying fuck about MMA. He hates that shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well think of it John</p>
<p>Vince&#8217;s company is the highest one in Universal in terms of ratings. Now NBC annouces it&#8217;s looking for MMA programing. In Vince&#8217;s eyes, this is a slap in the face. Especially when the report comes out the same day he has a big named wrestling come back to the company.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s Vince gonna do? He&#8217;s going to try to create his own shindig as fast as he can before anyone from office talks to M-1 or IFL and present it to them with Shane forming the head. Possibly buy out Valor and try to hype the trash there as &#8220;the best&#8221;.</p>
<p>Vince won&#8217;t be going into the MMA business because it&#8217;s hot. He&#8217;ll be going in to &#8220;keep his spot&#8221; if you will forgive the term. He could give a flying fuck about MMA. He hates that shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/11/19/report-nbc-wants-mma-programming/comment-page-1/#comment-41931</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach-

Why even bring up the WWE? Are you that big of a mark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach-</p>
<p>Why even bring up the WWE? Are you that big of a mark?</p>
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		<title>By: MMA Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMA Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lappen did such a great job with WFA... lol 

Vince&#039;s guy would be Rick Bassman answering to Shane McMahon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lappen did such a great job with WFA&#8230; lol </p>
<p>Vince&#8217;s guy would be Rick Bassman answering to Shane McMahon.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike David (Euthyphro)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike David (Euthyphro)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking about this a bit more, the absolute best time for the WWE to have gotten in to the game would have been with the folding of the WFA. Had they acquired that stable of fighters, they could have been well positioned with Jeremy Lappen running that side of things. Rampage is now and was then a marketable star to build a new company around.

Lappen (who is now with Elite XC I believe) could have done quite a bit more with the organization if he had WWE&#039;s bankroll and media reach. Ah, what might have been...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking about this a bit more, the absolute best time for the WWE to have gotten in to the game would have been with the folding of the WFA. Had they acquired that stable of fighters, they could have been well positioned with Jeremy Lappen running that side of things. Rampage is now and was then a marketable star to build a new company around.</p>
<p>Lappen (who is now with Elite XC I believe) could have done quite a bit more with the organization if he had WWE&#8217;s bankroll and media reach. Ah, what might have been&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: D. Capitated</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/11/19/report-nbc-wants-mma-programming/comment-page-1/#comment-41910</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Capitated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Seeing the types of punishment that have gone down for fights even looking like someone was “handholding” a guy along in a competitive fight (Shannon Ritch), I highly doubt you’d get away with anything remotely close to any pro-wrestling gimmickry.&lt;/i&gt;

This is absolutely true. And you know the microscope would be out for a Vince run group.

&lt;i&gt;Maybe we’re just off on what we’re both talking at here, but I don’t think we’re in any danger of seeing anything close to those type of ridiculous pro wrestling storylines, now or ever.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t think we are either because I doubt seriously that any pro wrestling promoter is about to dive into a crowded MMA pool. Kimo did consider doing that wrestling/MMA thing though....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Seeing the types of punishment that have gone down for fights even looking like someone was “handholding” a guy along in a competitive fight (Shannon Ritch), I highly doubt you’d get away with anything remotely close to any pro-wrestling gimmickry.</i></p>
<p>This is absolutely true. And you know the microscope would be out for a Vince run group.</p>
<p><i>Maybe we’re just off on what we’re both talking at here, but I don’t think we’re in any danger of seeing anything close to those type of ridiculous pro wrestling storylines, now or ever.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we are either because I doubt seriously that any pro wrestling promoter is about to dive into a crowded MMA pool. Kimo did consider doing that wrestling/MMA thing though&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gaijin</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/11/19/report-nbc-wants-mma-programming/comment-page-1/#comment-41909</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gaijin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure we arent going to see Kimo&#039;s illegitimate son reveal himself ringside at a fight anytime soon or find out that Sean Salmon was faking seizures to lull future opponents into thinking he was an easy fight.

Maybe we&#039;re just off on what we&#039;re both talking at here, but I don&#039;t think we&#039;re in any danger of seeing anything close to those type of ridiculous pro wrestling storylines, now or ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure we arent going to see Kimo&#8217;s illegitimate son reveal himself ringside at a fight anytime soon or find out that Sean Salmon was faking seizures to lull future opponents into thinking he was an easy fight.</p>
<p>Maybe we&#8217;re just off on what we&#8217;re both talking at here, but I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re in any danger of seeing anything close to those type of ridiculous pro wrestling storylines, now or ever.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gaijin</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/11/19/report-nbc-wants-mma-programming/comment-page-1/#comment-41908</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gaijin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yeah, there is a VERY big difference between a PRIDE/UFC ’storyline’ (ie. explain why they’re fighting, showing them in a stare-down during the weigh-ins, etc.) and what McMahon could *potentially* do with a MMA promotion.&quot;

Seeing the types of punishment that have gone down for fights even looking like someone was &quot;handholding&quot; a guy along in a competitive fight (Shannon Ritch), I highly doubt you&#039;d get away with anything remotely close to any pro-wrestling gimmickry. 

And if it did actually happen at one event, I would suspect that no commission in the country would approve any license following that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah, there is a VERY big difference between a PRIDE/UFC ’storyline’ (ie. explain why they’re fighting, showing them in a stare-down during the weigh-ins, etc.) and what McMahon could *potentially* do with a MMA promotion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seeing the types of punishment that have gone down for fights even looking like someone was &#8220;handholding&#8221; a guy along in a competitive fight (Shannon Ritch), I highly doubt you&#8217;d get away with anything remotely close to any pro-wrestling gimmickry. </p>
<p>And if it did actually happen at one event, I would suspect that no commission in the country would approve any license following that.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Capitated</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/11/19/report-nbc-wants-mma-programming/comment-page-1/#comment-41907</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Capitated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;UFC/PRIDE/MMA do set up “storylines” and create fake/hyped animosity and guys like Tito, F. Shamrock, Baroni and Rampage try to portray “heel personalities” in order to draw money for fights. I dont think that’s really that far away from “pro wrestling storylines”, especially in light of WWE abandoning much of their gimmick/fantasy storylines over the last 10 years.&lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s plenty of gimmick storylines. Dude, Mr. McMahon&#039;s illegitimate son? I mean, c&#039;mon. That guys like Tito and Baroni talk trash isn&#039;t necessarily them working as &quot;heels&quot; anymore than TO does. I mean, get this, in real life, some people really are conceited. Merely being conceited and being conceited and faking your death and firing people and putting them in dumpsters and having your daughter be crucified by a zombie character is not the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>UFC/PRIDE/MMA do set up “storylines” and create fake/hyped animosity and guys like Tito, F. Shamrock, Baroni and Rampage try to portray “heel personalities” in order to draw money for fights. I dont think that’s really that far away from “pro wrestling storylines”, especially in light of WWE abandoning much of their gimmick/fantasy storylines over the last 10 years.</i></p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty of gimmick storylines. Dude, Mr. McMahon&#8217;s illegitimate son? I mean, c&#8217;mon. That guys like Tito and Baroni talk trash isn&#8217;t necessarily them working as &#8220;heels&#8221; anymore than TO does. I mean, get this, in real life, some people really are conceited. Merely being conceited and being conceited and faking your death and firing people and putting them in dumpsters and having your daughter be crucified by a zombie character is not the same thing.</p>
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