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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/10/30/din-thomas-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-42667</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Din Thomas, is a great fighter it&#039;s very bad but i expected it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Din Thomas, is a great fighter it&#8217;s very bad but i expected it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kano</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/10/30/din-thomas-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-40450</link>
		<dc:creator>Kano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 03:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dlk has about the most accurate depiction of what went on.  I can assure you...what you&#039;ve read in the news cetainly doesn&#039;t provide very many facts.  There were paramedics on site (in clear view of the police) watching and helping out on a voluntary basis as anyone else involved.  There were no submissions holds applied (so that part is inaccurate)...so any fights stopped were done so with the fighters safety in mind...just as the fighters were advised prior to the demonstration.  No elbows or knees to the head were permitted. 

Where exactly are the police coming up with the number of people attended...there was no count...they never took any names of the individuals in the crowd...it was however extremely exaggerated.  The police didn&#039;t seize any money to determine whether everyone was charged as they allege...which again is a fabrication.  this is simply a witch hunt, which most will find  in the end has very little merit.  The cops sat and watched the fights (even clapping at times) for some time and one of them even admitted that he wasn&#039;t sure if there was anything wrong with what was being done.  I hope everyone can at least recognize that nobody would be stupid enough to knowingly commit a crime right in front of the police.

if anyone was around when mixed martial arts competition first started...it wasn&#039;t well received, which is reflected under the current laws.  the bottom line is that the sport is gaining more popularity each year.  It&#039;s imprudent and dangerous not to allow martial artists to train under simulated conditions to determine if they are ready for a sactioned fight.  I don&#039;t however, condone backyard fighting.  However, it is time to get some changes made so people can train without fear of prosecution.

the bottom line is that there have been no deaths in the United States since mixed martial arts was introduced...not that I&#039;m aware of anyway.  I certainly don&#039;t see the competition any more dangerous than doing a backflip on a motorcycle while 40 feet in the air like they do in the Xgames.

it&#039;s a good thing with all the illegal immigration, crime, and government corruption that the police focus their attention on something important as individuals trying to make a career in mixed martial arts.  way to go...all they&#039;ve succeeding in doing is presuming an honest business owner guilty until proven innocent, while defaming his name in the process.  i guess you can&#039;t expect much from a cop that patrols on bicycle.

Take a look at all the deaths associated with professional wrestling and tell me if MMA is a bigger problem.

Chris Von Erich - 21 
Mike Von Erich - 23 
Louie Spiccoli - 27 
Art Barr - 28 
Gino Hernandez - 29 
Jay Youngblood - 30 
Rick McGraw - 30 
Joey Marella - 30 
Ed Gatner - 31 
Buzz Sawyer - 32 
Crash Holly - 32 
Kerry Von Erich - 33 
D.J. Peterson - 33 
Eddie Gilbert - 33 
The Renegade - 33 
Owen Hart - 33 
Chris Candido - 33 
Adrian Adonis - 34 
Gary Albright - 34 
Bobby Duncum Jr. - 34 
Yokozuna - 34 
Big Dick Dudley - 34 
Brian Pillman - 35 
Marianna Komlos - 35 
Pitbull #2 - 36 
The Wall/Malice - 36 
Leroy Brown - 38 
Mark Curtis - 38 
Eddie Guerrero - 38 
John Kronus - 38 
Davey Boy Smith - 39 
Johnny Grunge - 39 
Vivian Vachon - 40 
Jeep Swenson - 40 
Brady Boone - 40 
Terry Gordy - 40 
Bertha Faye - 40 
Billy Joe Travis - 40 
Chris Benoit - 40 
Larry Cameron - 41 
Rick Rude - 41 
Randy Anderson - 41 
Bruiser Brody - 42 
Miss Elizabeth - 42 
Big Boss Man - 42 
Earthquake - 42 
Mike Awesome - 42 
Biff Wellington - 42 
Brian Adams (Crush) - 43
Ray Candy - 43 
Nancy Benoit (Woman) - 43 
Dino Bravo - 44 
Curt Hennig - 44 
Bam Bam Bigelow - 45 
Jerry Blackwell - 45 
Junkyard Dog - 45 
Hercules - 45 
Andre the Giant - 46 
Big John Studd - 46 
Chris Adams - 46 
Mike Davis - 46 
Hawk - 46 
Dick Murdoch - 49 
Jumbo Tsuruta - 49 
Rocco Rock - 49 
Sherri Martel - 49 
Moondog Spot - 51 
Ken Timbs - 53 
Uncle Elmer - 54 
Pez Whatley - 54 
Eddie Graham - 55 
Tarzan Tyler - 55 
Haystacks Calhoun- 55 
Giant Haystacks - 55 
The Spoiler - 56 
Kurt Von Hess - 56 
Moondog King - 56 
Gene Anderson - 58 
Dr. Jerry Graham - 58 
Bulldog Brown - 58 
Tony Parisi - 58 
Rufus R. Jones - 60 
Ray Stevens - 60 
Stan Stasiak - 60 
Terry Garvin - 60 
Boris Malenko - 61 
Little Beaver - 61 
Sapphire - 61 
Shohei Baba - 61 
Dick the Bruiser - 62 
Wilbur Snyder - 62 
George Cannon - 62 
Karl Krupp - 62 
Dale Lewis - 62 
Gorilla Monsoon - 62 
Hiro Matsuda - 62 
Bad News Brown - 63 
Bulldog Brower - 63 
Wahoo McDaniel - 63</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dlk has about the most accurate depiction of what went on.  I can assure you&#8230;what you&#8217;ve read in the news cetainly doesn&#8217;t provide very many facts.  There were paramedics on site (in clear view of the police) watching and helping out on a voluntary basis as anyone else involved.  There were no submissions holds applied (so that part is inaccurate)&#8230;so any fights stopped were done so with the fighters safety in mind&#8230;just as the fighters were advised prior to the demonstration.  No elbows or knees to the head were permitted. </p>
<p>Where exactly are the police coming up with the number of people attended&#8230;there was no count&#8230;they never took any names of the individuals in the crowd&#8230;it was however extremely exaggerated.  The police didn&#8217;t seize any money to determine whether everyone was charged as they allege&#8230;which again is a fabrication.  this is simply a witch hunt, which most will find  in the end has very little merit.  The cops sat and watched the fights (even clapping at times) for some time and one of them even admitted that he wasn&#8217;t sure if there was anything wrong with what was being done.  I hope everyone can at least recognize that nobody would be stupid enough to knowingly commit a crime right in front of the police.</p>
<p>if anyone was around when mixed martial arts competition first started&#8230;it wasn&#8217;t well received, which is reflected under the current laws.  the bottom line is that the sport is gaining more popularity each year.  It&#8217;s imprudent and dangerous not to allow martial artists to train under simulated conditions to determine if they are ready for a sactioned fight.  I don&#8217;t however, condone backyard fighting.  However, it is time to get some changes made so people can train without fear of prosecution.</p>
<p>the bottom line is that there have been no deaths in the United States since mixed martial arts was introduced&#8230;not that I&#8217;m aware of anyway.  I certainly don&#8217;t see the competition any more dangerous than doing a backflip on a motorcycle while 40 feet in the air like they do in the Xgames.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s a good thing with all the illegal immigration, crime, and government corruption that the police focus their attention on something important as individuals trying to make a career in mixed martial arts.  way to go&#8230;all they&#8217;ve succeeding in doing is presuming an honest business owner guilty until proven innocent, while defaming his name in the process.  i guess you can&#8217;t expect much from a cop that patrols on bicycle.</p>
<p>Take a look at all the deaths associated with professional wrestling and tell me if MMA is a bigger problem.</p>
<p>Chris Von Erich &#8211; 21<br />
Mike Von Erich &#8211; 23<br />
Louie Spiccoli &#8211; 27<br />
Art Barr &#8211; 28<br />
Gino Hernandez &#8211; 29<br />
Jay Youngblood &#8211; 30<br />
Rick McGraw &#8211; 30<br />
Joey Marella &#8211; 30<br />
Ed Gatner &#8211; 31<br />
Buzz Sawyer &#8211; 32<br />
Crash Holly &#8211; 32<br />
Kerry Von Erich &#8211; 33<br />
D.J. Peterson &#8211; 33<br />
Eddie Gilbert &#8211; 33<br />
The Renegade &#8211; 33<br />
Owen Hart &#8211; 33<br />
Chris Candido &#8211; 33<br />
Adrian Adonis &#8211; 34<br />
Gary Albright &#8211; 34<br />
Bobby Duncum Jr. &#8211; 34<br />
Yokozuna &#8211; 34<br />
Big Dick Dudley &#8211; 34<br />
Brian Pillman &#8211; 35<br />
Marianna Komlos &#8211; 35<br />
Pitbull #2 &#8211; 36<br />
The Wall/Malice &#8211; 36<br />
Leroy Brown &#8211; 38<br />
Mark Curtis &#8211; 38<br />
Eddie Guerrero &#8211; 38<br />
John Kronus &#8211; 38<br />
Davey Boy Smith &#8211; 39<br />
Johnny Grunge &#8211; 39<br />
Vivian Vachon &#8211; 40<br />
Jeep Swenson &#8211; 40<br />
Brady Boone &#8211; 40<br />
Terry Gordy &#8211; 40<br />
Bertha Faye &#8211; 40<br />
Billy Joe Travis &#8211; 40<br />
Chris Benoit &#8211; 40<br />
Larry Cameron &#8211; 41<br />
Rick Rude &#8211; 41<br />
Randy Anderson &#8211; 41<br />
Bruiser Brody &#8211; 42<br />
Miss Elizabeth &#8211; 42<br />
Big Boss Man &#8211; 42<br />
Earthquake &#8211; 42<br />
Mike Awesome &#8211; 42<br />
Biff Wellington &#8211; 42<br />
Brian Adams (Crush) &#8211; 43<br />
Ray Candy &#8211; 43<br />
Nancy Benoit (Woman) &#8211; 43<br />
Dino Bravo &#8211; 44<br />
Curt Hennig &#8211; 44<br />
Bam Bam Bigelow &#8211; 45<br />
Jerry Blackwell &#8211; 45<br />
Junkyard Dog &#8211; 45<br />
Hercules &#8211; 45<br />
Andre the Giant &#8211; 46<br />
Big John Studd &#8211; 46<br />
Chris Adams &#8211; 46<br />
Mike Davis &#8211; 46<br />
Hawk &#8211; 46<br />
Dick Murdoch &#8211; 49<br />
Jumbo Tsuruta &#8211; 49<br />
Rocco Rock &#8211; 49<br />
Sherri Martel &#8211; 49<br />
Moondog Spot &#8211; 51<br />
Ken Timbs &#8211; 53<br />
Uncle Elmer &#8211; 54<br />
Pez Whatley &#8211; 54<br />
Eddie Graham &#8211; 55<br />
Tarzan Tyler &#8211; 55<br />
Haystacks Calhoun- 55<br />
Giant Haystacks &#8211; 55<br />
The Spoiler &#8211; 56<br />
Kurt Von Hess &#8211; 56<br />
Moondog King &#8211; 56<br />
Gene Anderson &#8211; 58<br />
Dr. Jerry Graham &#8211; 58<br />
Bulldog Brown &#8211; 58<br />
Tony Parisi &#8211; 58<br />
Rufus R. Jones &#8211; 60<br />
Ray Stevens &#8211; 60<br />
Stan Stasiak &#8211; 60<br />
Terry Garvin &#8211; 60<br />
Boris Malenko &#8211; 61<br />
Little Beaver &#8211; 61<br />
Sapphire &#8211; 61<br />
Shohei Baba &#8211; 61<br />
Dick the Bruiser &#8211; 62<br />
Wilbur Snyder &#8211; 62<br />
George Cannon &#8211; 62<br />
Karl Krupp &#8211; 62<br />
Dale Lewis &#8211; 62<br />
Gorilla Monsoon &#8211; 62<br />
Hiro Matsuda &#8211; 62<br />
Bad News Brown &#8211; 63<br />
Bulldog Brower &#8211; 63<br />
Wahoo McDaniel &#8211; 63</p>
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		<title>By: ilostmydog</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/10/30/din-thomas-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-40352</link>
		<dc:creator>ilostmydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was backing Din before it came out that he had no doctors present.  That&#039;s just careless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was backing Din before it came out that he had no doctors present.  That&#8217;s just careless.</p>
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		<title>By: MMA Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/10/30/din-thomas-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-40340</link>
		<dc:creator>MMA Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its the end of the month. they had to meet their quato... busting din makes better headlines then a few more traffic stops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its the end of the month. they had to meet their quato&#8230; busting din makes better headlines then a few more traffic stops.</p>
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		<title>By: dlkjsook@hotmail.com</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/10/30/din-thomas-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-40244</link>
		<dc:creator>dlkjsook@hotmail.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Din was not charging money.  It was a voluntary raffle.  Not everyone paid, and the funds went to support fighter training.  There were modified rules including no elbows, no knees to the face, and very cautious judging.  Some fighters complained because the fights were called by the judge when submissions were not even fully tight.  In other words, unlike training, fighters did not necessarily get to work out of armbars.  It was a very very controlled situation.  Nothing that does not take place in training.  How many knockouts happen in football practice?  It is a collision sport, get over it.  The problem is that there are too many fools who want to water down this sport so that they can get the balls to participate.  Imagine if high school football was watered down so that those not cut out could participate.  Go back to padded fast food TKD and stop watering down a great sport so you can get your man card stamped.

the point of this was to get fighters used to fighting in front of a crowd. give them experience so they would be more ready for the real thing. i think the idea of a “dress rehersal” is a damn good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Din was not charging money.  It was a voluntary raffle.  Not everyone paid, and the funds went to support fighter training.  There were modified rules including no elbows, no knees to the face, and very cautious judging.  Some fighters complained because the fights were called by the judge when submissions were not even fully tight.  In other words, unlike training, fighters did not necessarily get to work out of armbars.  It was a very very controlled situation.  Nothing that does not take place in training.  How many knockouts happen in football practice?  It is a collision sport, get over it.  The problem is that there are too many fools who want to water down this sport so that they can get the balls to participate.  Imagine if high school football was watered down so that those not cut out could participate.  Go back to padded fast food TKD and stop watering down a great sport so you can get your man card stamped.</p>
<p>the point of this was to get fighters used to fighting in front of a crowd. give them experience so they would be more ready for the real thing. i think the idea of a “dress rehersal” is a damn good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: grafdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>grafdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually in the movie &quot;Valley of wolves&quot; Tito plays a &quot;good&quot; soldier who stands up to an &quot;evil&quot; soldier, and is killed for it by the evil soldier.
Its a b grade actioner with some real events from iraq (abu graib, the wedding massacre, etc...)thrown in to give it some weight. The mad jewish doctor is metaphor for who is really starting and controlling these conflicts.

Cuban is a rich jew who can do whatever he wants, if he wants to fund a critical movie about mistreatment in iraq then get lambasted for it on a show like O&#039;reilly then he can do it. If he wants to team up with some other rich jews to take over mma he can do that also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually in the movie &#8220;Valley of wolves&#8221; Tito plays a &#8220;good&#8221; soldier who stands up to an &#8220;evil&#8221; soldier, and is killed for it by the evil soldier.<br />
Its a b grade actioner with some real events from iraq (abu graib, the wedding massacre, etc&#8230;)thrown in to give it some weight. The mad jewish doctor is metaphor for who is really starting and controlling these conflicts.</p>
<p>Cuban is a rich jew who can do whatever he wants, if he wants to fund a critical movie about mistreatment in iraq then get lambasted for it on a show like O&#8217;reilly then he can do it. If he wants to team up with some other rich jews to take over mma he can do that also.</p>
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		<title>By: ilostmydog</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/10/30/din-thomas-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-40232</link>
		<dc:creator>ilostmydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people on the right were getting upset when some Turkish film company made a similar movie with evil US soldiers rounding up Iraqi&#039;s for an evil Jewish doctor to experiment on.  Tito Ortiz played an evil soldier in the film, ironically enough.  It&#039;s a bit much when people rage against movies that don&#039;t suit their personal views, especially when you consider how many mainstream films in North America either dehumanize or stereotype foreigners to the extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people on the right were getting upset when some Turkish film company made a similar movie with evil US soldiers rounding up Iraqi&#8217;s for an evil Jewish doctor to experiment on.  Tito Ortiz played an evil soldier in the film, ironically enough.  It&#8217;s a bit much when people rage against movies that don&#8217;t suit their personal views, especially when you consider how many mainstream films in North America either dehumanize or stereotype foreigners to the extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s Bill O&#039;Reilly?  Sounds like a nobody blowhard to me.  I wouldn&#039;t bother paying any attention to him...

(Yes, I know who he is.  No, I don&#039;t think people like him, no matter what perspective they are acting - err, speaking from, should ever be taken seriously.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s Bill O&#8217;Reilly?  Sounds like a nobody blowhard to me.  I wouldn&#8217;t bother paying any attention to him&#8230;</p>
<p>(Yes, I know who he is.  No, I don&#8217;t think people like him, no matter what perspective they are acting &#8211; err, speaking from, should ever be taken seriously.)</p>
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		<title>By: klown</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/10/30/din-thomas-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-40222</link>
		<dc:creator>klown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill O&#039;Reilly threatens Mark Cuban! 

On a typical rant against the &quot;radical left&quot; O&#039;Reilly singles out Mark Cuban for producing (?) a movie depicting US soldiers committing atrocities. Says something like, &quot;Listen up buddy - you pull that film or I&#039;m gonna be your worst nightmare&quot;. 

A potential excoriation of Mark Cuban would surely have an MMA dimension, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill O&#8217;Reilly threatens Mark Cuban! </p>
<p>On a typical rant against the &#8220;radical left&#8221; O&#8217;Reilly singles out Mark Cuban for producing (?) a movie depicting US soldiers committing atrocities. Says something like, &#8220;Listen up buddy &#8211; you pull that film or I&#8217;m gonna be your worst nightmare&#8221;. </p>
<p>A potential excoriation of Mark Cuban would surely have an MMA dimension, no?</p>
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		<title>By: white ninja</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/10/30/din-thomas-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-40218</link>
		<dc:creator>white ninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>absolute jole in Florida. bad luck for Din. but going mainstream involved a lot of pushback from a lot of places. start getting used to it, this is the price you pay for mainstream attention</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>absolute jole in Florida. bad luck for Din. but going mainstream involved a lot of pushback from a lot of places. start getting used to it, this is the price you pay for mainstream attention</p>
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