Comments on: Big news day for Pro Elite: Kimbo gets his bread and celebrity MMA TV

By: klown

klown — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:29:14 +0000

45 Huddle is the most consistently anti-fighter commentator on FightOpinion.

By: D.Capitated

D.Capitated — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:38:03 +0000

So why the difference with boxing where there is no upper limit for heavyweight?

I believe it was based on amateur wrestling.

By: D.Capitated

D.Capitated — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:37:27 +0000

Via incapcitation? Really, I thought you could gain victory via tap waaaay before incapcitation, guess not. Sounds like something that needs to be banned, it’s certainly not the MMA I’ve been watching.

If fighters don’t tap, what do you think happens?

Please…and don’t try to put words in my mouth because I won’t go along with your overdramatic portrayal of the sport. I bet you’re one of the first people to criticize ignorant journalists for their sensational articles, yet you sound no different from them right now.

Its a violent sport based around hand to hand combat. You don’t think fighters are putting their bodies and persons on the line because no one has died in a sanctioned event *yet*, less than two decades into MMA’s existence in the world at a time when they run probably a 1/4 the number of shows on a weekly basis that boxing does. Hell, there will probably be more boxing events at Koraken Hall this week than MMA events this month.

Sorry bud, can’t have it both ways. MMA isn’t life or death and people aren’t putting their lives on the line, no need to go over-the-top to make an argument.

What about boxers? They only die once in awhile and the majority end up with lasting effects from concussions. Is MMA different in that since they haven’t had the number of deaths compared to boxing, their athletes shouldn’t be compensated the same when producing similar revenue for their parent promotional companies?

By: Ian Dean

Ian Dean — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:09:32 +0000

some of those weights in kg are a little out

By: shibuya

shibuya — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:04:27 +0000

Saying that fighters complain 10x more than any other athletes is idiotic.
NFL players holdout all the time and skip training camp all together and sometines 1/4 of the season.Terell Owens signed a huge deal with the Eagles and then demanded more money. Joey Galloway held out till week 10 and the 8-2 seahawks missed the playoffs because they couldn’t win after he signed. From what I understand mma fighters don’t get health insurance while other athletes do (apparently Mark Cuban wants to change that). If you hurt yourself training you’re screwed.Couture was fighting when UFC fighters were making peanuts. He’s the face of the organization so he deserves to get paid accordingly.
Maybe things are not as rosy in UFC land as they would have us believe.

By: Blocker

Blocker — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:43:48 +0000

So why the difference with boxing where there is no upper limit for heavyweight?

By: The Gaijin

The Gaijin — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:45:32 +0000

Blocker – please see below:

Weight classes under the Unified Rules

The Nevada State Athletic Commission has designated limits for nine different weight classes in mixed martial arts. Fighters must be weighed in lbs:

Weight class name Upper limit in lbs Equivalent in kg
Flyweight 125 lb 57 kg
Bantamweight 135 lb 61 kg
Featherweight 145 lb 66 kg
Lightweight 155 lb 70 kg
Welterweight 170 lb 77 kg
Middleweight 185 lb 84 kg
Light Heavyweight 205 lb 93 kg
Heavyweight 265 lb 120 kg
Super Heavyweight No upper weight limit

Prior to state sanctioning, weight classes were not mandatory since the competitions were held without the approval of the athletic commissions. For instance, the Ultimate Fighting Championship introduced two weight classes at UFC 12: heavyweight, which grouped competitors above 200 lb (91 kg), and lightweight, which grouped competitors under 200 lb.

Weight divisions would undergo many changes in the coming years, but the ability of promotions to autonomously decide their own weight classes would eventually disappear after athletic commissions began supervising mixed martial arts.

By: Blocker

Blocker — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:28:05 +0000

Nah it is the UFC otherwise we would see a ceiling on the top weight limit in boxing as well.

By: Adam Morgan

Adam Morgan — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:10:59 +0000

I doubt they will promote him with the street fight footage. They WILL promote him as “internet street fight legend, Kimbo Slice” however.

By: Ivan Trembow

Ivan Trembow — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:06:24 +0000

If Pro Elite decides to use Kimbo’s street-fight footage to promote him in EliteXC, that would be absolute garbage. They haven’t done that yet, but if they do, they would lose a lot of credibility.