Comments on: Monday madness with Michael Bisping http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:38:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mick S http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/comment-page-1/#comment-35633 Mick S Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:43:28 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/#comment-35633 Oh and D.Capitated Bispings striking isnt awful and he does have a good chin, check out any of his previous fights and that will prove it. The mans never been beaten in any competition, MMA or Kick Boxing. Oh and D.Capitated Bispings striking isnt awful and he does have a good chin, check out any of his previous fights and that will prove it. The mans never been beaten in any competition, MMA or Kick Boxing.

]]> By: Mick S http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/comment-page-1/#comment-35632 Mick S Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:39:36 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/#comment-35632 To respond to a few of the comments up at the moment, RGana the Bisping v Hammil fight was not a fix, the UFCs knows that would do no good for them and its just plain stupid to think they would do this. Its interesting everyone claims Mike got the 'hometown rub' even though it was in london not liverpool and the one british judge actually scored the fight in Hammils favour. Having re-watched the fight several times I only think more now that the decision was correct, the commentators biased comments have swayed alot of people and there was several times Bisping caught Hammil with repeated head shots that the commentators completely ignored. Apart from the first round Bisping controlled the floor and stopped Hammil getting any real offence once he had been taken down, plus Bisping was pretty much back on his feet as quick as he had been takendown most times so this has to score in Mikes favour. The third round is a clear points win for Mike, Hammil's cardio is terrible and he could hardly hold his hands up and Mike landed alot of punches in this round. I agree that the after fight comments were quite arrogant but after reading his apology and explanation of what had happened after the show with his father I think people should get off his back, I mean he's already asked for a re-match to prove he can beat him so he obviously isnt worried about facing Hammil again due to the lack of damage hammil caused after the first round, and if Hammil really is this great fighter everyone says then he'll beat him, but I doubt that will happen. A longer stretch training with Rampage Jackson at Big Bear should prepare Bisping for that fight and I fully expect him to beat Hammil again hopefully on US soil so all this Fix/Home Favourite rubbish can be put to bed. This was also a fight that had it happened during TUF3 I think Bisping would have knocked him out as Hammil had nothing but takedowns at that time, for gods sake he got kicked by Kenndel Grove and sat in his room for 4 days sulking after. Big props to Hammil though for his after fight comments, he may not have had any class talking going into the fight but he showed class after. To respond to a few of the comments up at the moment, RGana the Bisping v Hammil fight was not a fix, the UFCs knows that would do no good for them and its just plain stupid to think they would do this. Its interesting everyone claims Mike got the ‘hometown rub’ even though it was in london not liverpool and the one british judge actually scored the fight in Hammils favour. Having re-watched the fight several times I only think more now that the decision was correct, the commentators biased comments have swayed alot of people and there was several times Bisping caught Hammil with repeated head shots that the commentators completely ignored. Apart from the first round Bisping controlled the floor and stopped Hammil getting any real offence once he had been taken down, plus Bisping was pretty much back on his feet as quick as he had been takendown most times so this has to score in Mikes favour. The third round is a clear points win for Mike, Hammil’s cardio is terrible and he could hardly hold his hands up and Mike landed alot of punches in this round. I agree that the after fight comments were quite arrogant but after reading his apology and explanation of what had happened after the show with his father I think people should get off his back, I mean he’s already asked for a re-match to prove he can beat him so he obviously isnt worried about facing Hammil again due to the lack of damage hammil caused after the first round, and if Hammil really is this great fighter everyone says then he’ll beat him, but I doubt that will happen. A longer stretch training with Rampage Jackson at Big Bear should prepare Bisping for that fight and I fully expect him to beat Hammil again hopefully on US soil so all this Fix/Home Favourite rubbish can be put to bed. This was also a fight that had it happened during TUF3 I think Bisping would have knocked him out as Hammil had nothing but takedowns at that time, for gods sake he got kicked by Kenndel Grove and sat in his room for 4 days sulking after.
Big props to Hammil though for his after fight comments, he may not have had any class talking going into the fight but he showed class after.

]]> By: D.Capitated http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/comment-page-1/#comment-35506 D.Capitated Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:16:06 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/#comment-35506 <i>While this is true, I find it pretty hard to believe THAT is the explanation for his poor performance. I don’t think he’s drastically trailing off to like 40% of his abilities in a two-year span. I think it’s just his headcaseness…and when he was in PRIDE they’d set him up to squash some CAN to get the confidence back in him. In this case I feel Kongo was to be his “can”, but he’s just lost his mental game…he needs GSP’s shrink (no lie, he needs a sports psych).</i> Here's a reality check for some people: -Cro-Cop is 3-4 against legitimate heavyweights in the last 2 years. -Two of those wins came against the same guy. The other win was against Eddie Sanchez. -Lots of questions were posed about Cro-Cop's future prior to the the OWGP given two losses in his last three, all of which were apparently forgotten by KOing a fat judoka and a pro wrestler. -Mirko is an old 33 for a fighter, having numerous amateur boxing bouts, kickboxing bouts in Europe, his K-1 career, and obviously his MMA career. Frankly, Mirko is in no position to be a title contender now or even in the near future. He was given a kickboxer that was KOed by Gilbert Yvel in embarassing fashion. With his pedigree, it should have been no contest. Now he's on the outside looking way in. Apart from fighting Frank Mir or just flat retiring, I don't know what purpose he serves the sport these days. While this is true, I find it pretty hard to believe THAT is the explanation for his poor performance.

I don’t think he’s drastically trailing off to like 40% of his abilities in a two-year span. I think it’s just his headcaseness…and when he was in PRIDE they’d set him up to squash some CAN to get the confidence back in him. In this case I feel Kongo was to be his “can”, but he’s just lost his mental game…he needs GSP’s shrink (no lie, he needs a sports psych).

Here’s a reality check for some people:

-Cro-Cop is 3-4 against legitimate heavyweights in the last 2 years.

-Two of those wins came against the same guy. The other win was against Eddie Sanchez.

-Lots of questions were posed about Cro-Cop’s future prior to the the OWGP given two losses in his last three, all of which were apparently forgotten by KOing a fat judoka and a pro wrestler.

-Mirko is an old 33 for a fighter, having numerous amateur boxing bouts, kickboxing bouts in Europe, his K-1 career, and obviously his MMA career.

Frankly, Mirko is in no position to be a title contender now or even in the near future. He was given a kickboxer that was KOed by Gilbert Yvel in embarassing fashion. With his pedigree, it should have been no contest. Now he’s on the outside looking way in. Apart from fighting Frank Mir or just flat retiring, I don’t know what purpose he serves the sport these days.

]]> By: FightOpinion.com - Your Global Connection to the Fight Industry. http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/comment-page-1/#comment-35492 FightOpinion.com - Your Global Connection to the Fight Industry. Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:16:14 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/#comment-35492 [...] in the Matt Hamill vs. Michael Bisping fight. A site commenter labels the PR blitz by the judges as ‘damage control.’ And those of you critical of the decision? Whiners. Who wins the re-match? Dave Meltzer says the [...] [...] in the Matt Hamill vs. Michael Bisping fight. A site commenter labels the PR blitz by the judges as ‘damage control.’ And those of you critical of the decision? Whiners. Who wins the re-match? Dave Meltzer says the [...]

]]> By: The Gaijin http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/comment-page-1/#comment-35490 The Gaijin Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:10:37 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/#comment-35490 "He broke his rib because he got hit. Cro Cop’s biggest problem as he gets older is that his speed and reflexes diminish, which is awful for a striker." While this is true, I find it pretty hard to believe THAT is the explanation for his poor performance. I don't think he's drastically trailing off to like 40% of his abilities in a two-year span. I think it's just his headcaseness...and when he was in PRIDE they'd set him up to squash some CAN to get the confidence back in him. In this case I feel Kongo was to be his "can", but he's just lost his mental game...he needs GSP's shrink (no lie, he needs a sports psych). And as for the Bisping thing, the more I think about it - win or not, they're fucked with him. Regardless of him getting a W on the ledger, in the court of public opinion its clear that he lost and everyone knows it. He was exposed and really he was exposed by someone who's probably a T-30 205er. He's not going to be getting any sort of push at that weight class with all the top guys they're bringing in. And really thinking of it, I don't know if he'd hang with the top guys at 185 either...his striking his so friggin overrated, his chin is awful and man oh man he has ZERO head movement (case in point, MATT HAMILL was teeing off on him and scoring). “He broke his rib because he got hit. Cro Cop’s biggest problem as he gets older is that his speed and reflexes diminish, which is awful for a striker.”

While this is true, I find it pretty hard to believe THAT is the explanation for his poor performance.

I don’t think he’s drastically trailing off to like 40% of his abilities in a two-year span. I think it’s just his headcaseness…and when he was in PRIDE they’d set him up to squash some CAN to get the confidence back in him. In this case I feel Kongo was to be his “can”, but he’s just lost his mental game…he needs GSP’s shrink (no lie, he needs a sports psych).

And as for the Bisping thing, the more I think about it – win or not, they’re fucked with him. Regardless of him getting a W on the ledger, in the court of public opinion its clear that he lost and everyone knows it. He was exposed and really he was exposed by someone who’s probably a T-30 205er. He’s not going to be getting any sort of push at that weight class with all the top guys they’re bringing in. And really thinking of it, I don’t know if he’d hang with the top guys at 185 either…his striking his so friggin overrated, his chin is awful and man oh man he has ZERO head movement (case in point, MATT HAMILL was teeing off on him and scoring).

]]> By: Zack http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/comment-page-1/#comment-35489 Zack Tue, 11 Sep 2007 04:28:26 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/#comment-35489 I'd still pay to see Cro Cop vs Arlovski. I’d still pay to see Cro Cop vs Arlovski.

]]> By: flying scissor heel hook http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/comment-page-1/#comment-35488 flying scissor heel hook Tue, 11 Sep 2007 04:17:48 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/#comment-35488 UFC should sight Mark Coleman and have him fight Cro Cop. UFC should sight Mark Coleman and have him fight Cro Cop.

]]> By: Manos http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/comment-page-1/#comment-35486 Manos Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:20:07 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/#comment-35486 I think they need to go back in time to the birth of Crocop's career and feed him a steady diet of pro wrestlers. I think they need to go back in time to the birth of Crocop’s career and feed him a steady diet of pro wrestlers.

]]> By: D.Capitated http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/comment-page-1/#comment-35484 D.Capitated Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:41:55 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/#comment-35484 <i>I give him one last chance to rebound. He claims he broke his rib in round 1 and had difficulty breathing. He also took several knees to the groin from that monster. I tremble in fear at the thought of that. Give him Heath, and if he wins, Arlovski or Sylvia. If he loses, retire him.</i> He broke his rib because he got hit. Cro Cop's biggest problem as he gets older is that his speed and reflexes diminish, which is awful for a striker. <i>Now picture Kongo vs Gonzaga!</i> Uhhh, Gonzaga takes Kongo down and pounds the shit out of him. You've seen Kongo fight before, right? I give him one last chance to rebound. He claims he broke his rib in round 1 and had difficulty breathing. He also took several knees to the groin from that monster. I tremble in fear at the thought of that. Give him Heath, and if he wins, Arlovski or Sylvia. If he loses, retire him.

He broke his rib because he got hit. Cro Cop’s biggest problem as he gets older is that his speed and reflexes diminish, which is awful for a striker.

Now picture Kongo vs Gonzaga!

Uhhh, Gonzaga takes Kongo down and pounds the shit out of him. You’ve seen Kongo fight before, right?

]]> By: D.Capitated http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/comment-page-1/#comment-35483 D.Capitated Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:40:25 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/10/monday-madness-with-michael-bisping/#comment-35483 <i>This seems like a perfect analogy. Drving is an inherently dangerous activiy, so the regulatory body has put rules and restrictions in place that reduce the risk. In the same way, fighting is inherently dangerous, so the various regulatory bodies have put rules and restrictions in place to reduce the chance of serious injury.</i> No, its a lousy analogy. Driving does not necessitate bodily harm to anyone. Improper driving can, sure. MMA and boxing are entirely about causing bodily harm to win. The GMA is looking at boxing and MMA the same way it does heroin use. This seems like a perfect analogy. Drving is an inherently dangerous activiy, so the regulatory body has put rules and restrictions in place that reduce the risk. In the same way, fighting is inherently dangerous, so the various regulatory bodies have put rules and restrictions in place to reduce the chance of serious injury.

No, its a lousy analogy. Driving does not necessitate bodily harm to anyone. Improper driving can, sure. MMA and boxing are entirely about causing bodily harm to win. The GMA is looking at boxing and MMA the same way it does heroin use.

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