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	<title>Comments on: Tuesday media turmoil: Truths and untruths</title>
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		<title>By: FightOpinion.com - Your Global Connection to the Fight Industry.</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/23/tuesday-media-turmoil-truths-and-untruths/comment-page-2/#comment-32352</link>
		<dc:creator>FightOpinion.com - Your Global Connection to the Fight Industry.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, I got angry when I thought that Luke Thomas was accusing various MMA writers of calling MMA fighters who use steroids &#8216;cowards.&#8217; Well, if Luke wants a specific [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] week, I got angry when I thought that Luke Thomas was accusing various MMA writers of calling MMA fighters who use steroids &#8216;cowards.&#8217; Well, if Luke wants a specific [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fightlinker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Luke Thomas gonna have to smack a bitch?</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/23/tuesday-media-turmoil-truths-and-untruths/comment-page-2/#comment-32158</link>
		<dc:creator>Fightlinker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Luke Thomas gonna have to smack a bitch?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been on a roll lately, pissing off people left and right. He did a live radio show on Steroids that made Zach Arnold cry harder than Loretta Hunt that time Phil Baroni headbutted her. Luke later apologized, but then went [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been on a roll lately, pissing off people left and right. He did a live radio show on Steroids that made Zach Arnold cry harder than Loretta Hunt that time Phil Baroni headbutted her. Luke later apologized, but then went [...]</p>
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		<title>By: penxv</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/23/tuesday-media-turmoil-truths-and-untruths/comment-page-2/#comment-32065</link>
		<dc:creator>penxv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats because most guys just jam a needle in their ass.. it&#039;s not like they go to a Dr. for hormone replacement therapy at the age of 22.

Would you like to know what the Dr. will say?

He will say... &quot;Stop fighting in cages.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats because most guys just jam a needle in their ass.. it&#8217;s not like they go to a Dr. for hormone replacement therapy at the age of 22.</p>
<p>Would you like to know what the Dr. will say?</p>
<p>He will say&#8230; &#8220;Stop fighting in cages.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (not that Jeremy)</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/23/tuesday-media-turmoil-truths-and-untruths/comment-page-2/#comment-32047</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy (not that Jeremy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve listened to Luke&#039;s show a couple times and it just reminds me of Jim Rome.  He kind of talks himself into a lather and convinces himself of some pretty absurd positions on the air that I&#039;m not sure he really believes.

Maybe he needs a co-host or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve listened to Luke&#8217;s show a couple times and it just reminds me of Jim Rome.  He kind of talks himself into a lather and convinces himself of some pretty absurd positions on the air that I&#8217;m not sure he really believes.</p>
<p>Maybe he needs a co-host or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Trembow</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/23/tuesday-media-turmoil-truths-and-untruths/comment-page-2/#comment-32044</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Trembow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach--- don&#039;t tell that to Jerry McDevitt or &quot;Doctor&quot; David Black!  They appeared to have no problem lying on national television and even tried to say that testosterone is not an anabolic steroid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach&#8212; don&#8217;t tell that to Jerry McDevitt or &#8220;Doctor&#8221; David Black!  They appeared to have no problem lying on national television and even tried to say that testosterone is not an anabolic steroid.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/23/tuesday-media-turmoil-truths-and-untruths/comment-page-2/#comment-32039</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The T/E ratio on a CSAC drug test is 6:1.  And fighters fail that test.  That means fighters have six times more testosterone than the average man.  The whole concept of testosterone replacement therapy is to help people get back to normal - 1:1.  Funny how that never seemingly happens with pro-wrestlers and perhaps MMA fighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The T/E ratio on a CSAC drug test is 6:1.  And fighters fail that test.  That means fighters have six times more testosterone than the average man.  The whole concept of testosterone replacement therapy is to help people get back to normal &#8211; 1:1.  Funny how that never seemingly happens with pro-wrestlers and perhaps MMA fighters.</p>
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		<title>By: penxv</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/23/tuesday-media-turmoil-truths-and-untruths/comment-page-2/#comment-32035</link>
		<dc:creator>penxv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say that there are two camps as far as motives go among fighters.

Some for cosmetic reasons... I&#039;m sure that you could pick them out of a lineup.


But with serious fighters, I think that it is more for training.  It is referred to as &quot;helping your body recover faster,&quot; but more accurately... it is getting your testosterone levels back to where they should be (and beyond often).  

quote from some Dr. (I don&#039;t know if he&#039;s a quack, but I&#039;ve heard it independently as well):

&quot;it is an unsustainable myth that hard training increases testosterone levels. In every credible study done on training and its effects on blood whether in college athletes, Olympians, or troops in training or in battle, the stress and physical fatigue of exercise, skill performance and physical activity decreases testosterone and increases estrogen&quot;

I think the steroids are used less for explosiveness &amp; strength than  thought by outside observers because just about everyone cuts weight... It&#039;s not like in football or pro wrestling where there is pressure to be bigger.

In the early MMA days, the big juicers all gassed out.

I have never taken steroids.

And fighters usually take a light week before the fight for the very same reason… “to recover.”

But hard into training, your testosterone is low and it really effects motivation.

It’s more like…

to recover my balls!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say that there are two camps as far as motives go among fighters.</p>
<p>Some for cosmetic reasons&#8230; I&#8217;m sure that you could pick them out of a lineup.</p>
<p>But with serious fighters, I think that it is more for training.  It is referred to as &#8220;helping your body recover faster,&#8221; but more accurately&#8230; it is getting your testosterone levels back to where they should be (and beyond often).  </p>
<p>quote from some Dr. (I don&#8217;t know if he&#8217;s a quack, but I&#8217;ve heard it independently as well):</p>
<p>&#8220;it is an unsustainable myth that hard training increases testosterone levels. In every credible study done on training and its effects on blood whether in college athletes, Olympians, or troops in training or in battle, the stress and physical fatigue of exercise, skill performance and physical activity decreases testosterone and increases estrogen&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the steroids are used less for explosiveness &amp; strength than  thought by outside observers because just about everyone cuts weight&#8230; It&#8217;s not like in football or pro wrestling where there is pressure to be bigger.</p>
<p>In the early MMA days, the big juicers all gassed out.</p>
<p>I have never taken steroids.</p>
<p>And fighters usually take a light week before the fight for the very same reason… “to recover.”</p>
<p>But hard into training, your testosterone is low and it really effects motivation.</p>
<p>It’s more like…</p>
<p>to recover my balls!!</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Rowles</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/23/tuesday-media-turmoil-truths-and-untruths/comment-page-2/#comment-32030</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Rowles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 03:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;Remember guys, we are talking COMBAT sports here, not cycling or baseball&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This really is the point.

It just seems so pompous for an MMA fan to be outraged at drug use -- &quot;Gentlemen for my enjoyment, please beat each other about the face and attempt to rip each other&#039;s limbs off, but oh, could you do that without drugs?&quot; 

Hermes Franca, his family, his mom, his agent, the UFC...they should be outraged at Franca.  But the rest of us?  

It&#039;s sweet that so many *care* about the health of the men who they are cheering to be knocked unconcious with the most vicious of strikes possible.  

Again, none of this means steroids or drugs should be allowed in MMA.  But drug abuse is rampant throughout society, so invariably it&#039;ll seep into MMA.  If people weren&#039;t getting caught...then that would be a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;Remember guys, we are talking COMBAT sports here, not cycling or baseball&#8221;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>This really is the point.</p>
<p>It just seems so pompous for an MMA fan to be outraged at drug use &#8212; &#8220;Gentlemen for my enjoyment, please beat each other about the face and attempt to rip each other&#8217;s limbs off, but oh, could you do that without drugs?&#8221; </p>
<p>Hermes Franca, his family, his mom, his agent, the UFC&#8230;they should be outraged at Franca.  But the rest of us?  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sweet that so many *care* about the health of the men who they are cheering to be knocked unconcious with the most vicious of strikes possible.  </p>
<p>Again, none of this means steroids or drugs should be allowed in MMA.  But drug abuse is rampant throughout society, so invariably it&#8217;ll seep into MMA.  If people weren&#8217;t getting caught&#8230;then that would be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: MickDawg</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/23/tuesday-media-turmoil-truths-and-untruths/comment-page-2/#comment-32029</link>
		<dc:creator>MickDawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 03:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, even fightopinion has trolls too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, even fightopinion has trolls too</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/23/tuesday-media-turmoil-truths-and-untruths/comment-page-2/#comment-32028</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I spend about 1/3 of the time looking at fightopinion than I used to, because its practically like reading an mma tabloid these days. If I am counting correctly this is the sixth, possibly seventh steroid tirade ive seen on the site this week.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And maybe I&#039;d read a 1/3rd of your comments if you actually bothered using a valid e-mail, as opposed to trying to trick the spam filters into buying your fake one.

I love how the trolls are out in full force tonight, yet none of them want to use valid e-mails or leave valid information about who they are behind.

So, I guess we should get back on topic and talk about lighter issues.  Hey, let&#039;s try &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/topofthetimes/world/la-fg-gangster23jul23,1,1996284.story?&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a yakuza story link&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>I spend about 1/3 of the time looking at fightopinion than I used to, because its practically like reading an mma tabloid these days. If I am counting correctly this is the sixth, possibly seventh steroid tirade ive seen on the site this week.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>And maybe I&#8217;d read a 1/3rd of your comments if you actually bothered using a valid e-mail, as opposed to trying to trick the spam filters into buying your fake one.</p>
<p>I love how the trolls are out in full force tonight, yet none of them want to use valid e-mails or leave valid information about who they are behind.</p>
<p>So, I guess we should get back on topic and talk about lighter issues.  Hey, let&#8217;s try <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/topofthetimes/world/la-fg-gangster23jul23,1,1996284.story?" rel="nofollow">a yakuza story link</a>!</p>
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