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		<title>By: Mr. Phelps</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/20/mma-steroid-articles/comment-page-2/#comment-31880</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>45... I love reading your posts. You always reason your arguments and defend your positions well. Zack, 45 has become one of my favorite reasons to visit the site.
And kudos, Zack, on your awesome coverage of the issue on sportsline. I would hope even Dana White would have to make fightopinion the exception in his collection of &quot;fanboy&quot; websites. Now, if you could just get a dissenting voice on the radio show...
45? How would 45 sound on the radio?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>45&#8230; I love reading your posts. You always reason your arguments and defend your positions well. Zack, 45 has become one of my favorite reasons to visit the site.<br />
And kudos, Zack, on your awesome coverage of the issue on sportsline. I would hope even Dana White would have to make fightopinion the exception in his collection of &#8220;fanboy&#8221; websites. Now, if you could just get a dissenting voice on the radio show&#8230;<br />
45? How would 45 sound on the radio?</p>
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		<title>By: D. Capitated</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/20/mma-steroid-articles/comment-page-2/#comment-31830</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Capitated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I didn’t relaize this, but I never paid attention. Have they been on Indian reservations? They did a LA show, a LV show, and now another NJ show. So not all have been unsanctioned and still there have been no positive tests, correct? I think there may be something to this. Maybe they don’t pressure fighters to compete when hurt. I don’t know, but I feel the attitude of the management or owners may be a factor.&lt;/i&gt;

The claim that they&#039;re doing all unsanctioned style events is a bit absurd. They&#039;ve played mostly major venues, with NJ, California, and Nevada being together far exceeding any other combination of venues that they&#039;ve used. Even Mohegan Sun, whom they&#039;ve run twice, has been very strict about MMA. Ask the UFC about that. They don&#039;t pressure fighters to fight when hurt because its team based, not fighter based, and thus they can just call a replacement with no one being the worse for wear (other than the hurt fighter&#039;s pocketbook).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I didn’t relaize this, but I never paid attention. Have they been on Indian reservations? They did a LA show, a LV show, and now another NJ show. So not all have been unsanctioned and still there have been no positive tests, correct? I think there may be something to this. Maybe they don’t pressure fighters to compete when hurt. I don’t know, but I feel the attitude of the management or owners may be a factor.</i></p>
<p>The claim that they&#8217;re doing all unsanctioned style events is a bit absurd. They&#8217;ve played mostly major venues, with NJ, California, and Nevada being together far exceeding any other combination of venues that they&#8217;ve used. Even Mohegan Sun, whom they&#8217;ve run twice, has been very strict about MMA. Ask the UFC about that. They don&#8217;t pressure fighters to fight when hurt because its team based, not fighter based, and thus they can just call a replacement with no one being the worse for wear (other than the hurt fighter&#8217;s pocketbook).</p>
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		<title>By: white ninja</title>
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		<dc:creator>white ninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 06:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I feel the attitude of the management or owners may be a factor&quot;

bingo. we have a winner

For all of their lipservice, promoters dont give a shit about the safety of fighters, particularly long term damage that accrues from steroid abuse

they have an interest for fighters to fight when an event is announced. how the fighters get there; injured, roided etc? You really think Dana White cares? He could give a shit once the tickets and PPVs are sold

the only thing seperating Dana from the scumbags at PRIDE is that Dana has the ACs to deal with. Japan is perfect example of a de-regulated and corrupt MMA scene is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I feel the attitude of the management or owners may be a factor&#8221;</p>
<p>bingo. we have a winner</p>
<p>For all of their lipservice, promoters dont give a shit about the safety of fighters, particularly long term damage that accrues from steroid abuse</p>
<p>they have an interest for fighters to fight when an event is announced. how the fighters get there; injured, roided etc? You really think Dana White cares? He could give a shit once the tickets and PPVs are sold</p>
<p>the only thing seperating Dana from the scumbags at PRIDE is that Dana has the ACs to deal with. Japan is perfect example of a de-regulated and corrupt MMA scene is</p>
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		<title>By: Rollo the Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/20/mma-steroid-articles/comment-page-2/#comment-31815</link>
		<dc:creator>Rollo the Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 04:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The IFL? They run half their events in non sanctioning towns. That would be like asking Pride how many steroid drug tests fighters failed when they ran their events in Japan.&quot;

I didn&#039;t relaize this, but I never paid attention.   Have they been on Indian reservations?  They did a LA show, a LV show, and now another NJ show.  So not all have been unsanctioned and still there have been no positive tests, correct?  I think there may be something to this.  Maybe they don&#039;t pressure fighters to compete when hurt.  I don&#039;t know, but I feel the attitude of the management or owners may be a factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The IFL? They run half their events in non sanctioning towns. That would be like asking Pride how many steroid drug tests fighters failed when they ran their events in Japan.&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t relaize this, but I never paid attention.   Have they been on Indian reservations?  They did a LA show, a LV show, and now another NJ show.  So not all have been unsanctioned and still there have been no positive tests, correct?  I think there may be something to this.  Maybe they don&#8217;t pressure fighters to compete when hurt.  I don&#8217;t know, but I feel the attitude of the management or owners may be a factor.</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The IFL?  They run half their events in non sanctioning towns.  That would be like asking Pride how many steroid drug tests fighters failed when they ran their events in Japan.

Plus, the way the IFL is structured, it makes it stupid for a fighter to take steroids.  They fight so often that it is near impossible to cycle through the roids properly for the training of a fight.

And before you think that the IFL is now the format to get around roid use.... The IFL&#039;s schedule is horrible for a fighter.  Some guys might be fighting up to 6 or 7 times in one year.  That is a lot of abuse for a fighter to take in one year.  I&#039;m not sure how much worse that is then steroids.

&quot;What difference does it make if you test your own fighters when the results aren’t released and there are no consequences?&quot;

MLB doesn&#039;t release who was tested and when.  How is the UFC supposed to be any different?  And how do you know if their are consequences or not.  Neither you or I really know anything on that matter.

And when I say that White is the only person doing anything, I mean in today&#039;s sport.  How many other promoters do you see hiring the services of a guy like Marc Ratner for the purpose to get the sport regulated in all 50 states?  And with that regulation comes drug testing.  All the other promoters either just care about the 1 or 2 states that they are around, or don&#039;t try to do anything (like the IFL).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IFL?  They run half their events in non sanctioning towns.  That would be like asking Pride how many steroid drug tests fighters failed when they ran their events in Japan.</p>
<p>Plus, the way the IFL is structured, it makes it stupid for a fighter to take steroids.  They fight so often that it is near impossible to cycle through the roids properly for the training of a fight.</p>
<p>And before you think that the IFL is now the format to get around roid use&#8230;. The IFL&#8217;s schedule is horrible for a fighter.  Some guys might be fighting up to 6 or 7 times in one year.  That is a lot of abuse for a fighter to take in one year.  I&#8217;m not sure how much worse that is then steroids.</p>
<p>&#8220;What difference does it make if you test your own fighters when the results aren’t released and there are no consequences?&#8221;</p>
<p>MLB doesn&#8217;t release who was tested and when.  How is the UFC supposed to be any different?  And how do you know if their are consequences or not.  Neither you or I really know anything on that matter.</p>
<p>And when I say that White is the only person doing anything, I mean in today&#8217;s sport.  How many other promoters do you see hiring the services of a guy like Marc Ratner for the purpose to get the sport regulated in all 50 states?  And with that regulation comes drug testing.  All the other promoters either just care about the 1 or 2 states that they are around, or don&#8217;t try to do anything (like the IFL).</p>
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		<title>By: Rollo the Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rollo the Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many postive drug tests has the IFL had?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many postive drug tests has the IFL had?</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What difference does it make if you test your own fighters when the results aren&#039;t released and there are no consequences?

&quot;He is actually the only person in the sport who has done something about steroids and testing. An that is getting the athletic commissions on board before they run.&quot;

Dude...UFC 29 under SEG was sanctioned by the NJAC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What difference does it make if you test your own fighters when the results aren&#8217;t released and there are no consequences?</p>
<p>&#8220;He is actually the only person in the sport who has done something about steroids and testing. An that is getting the athletic commissions on board before they run.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dude&#8230;UFC 29 under SEG was sanctioned by the NJAC.</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They both equally stink in their own ways.

The fact stands that the UFC runs to regulation, and because of this, it is so unliely for there to ever be a major issue in the media about the UFC and steroids.  The media needs the UFC to be a bunch of idiots for the story to stick more then a day.  And by public standards, the UFC is doing everything they need to be.

And the point remains that not only what Gross says is completely inaccurate from top to bottom (it is), but White isn&#039;t even on the radar in terms of this issue.  He is actually the only person in the sport who has done something about steroids and testing.  An that is getting the athletic commissions on board before they run.  And I don&#039;t know of another promoter who has tested their own fighters.

The UFC is light years ahead of the rest of the sport on this issue, so if anything, give White a prize, don&#039;t point him out with complete inaccuracies just because they hate him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They both equally stink in their own ways.</p>
<p>The fact stands that the UFC runs to regulation, and because of this, it is so unliely for there to ever be a major issue in the media about the UFC and steroids.  The media needs the UFC to be a bunch of idiots for the story to stick more then a day.  And by public standards, the UFC is doing everything they need to be.</p>
<p>And the point remains that not only what Gross says is completely inaccurate from top to bottom (it is), but White isn&#8217;t even on the radar in terms of this issue.  He is actually the only person in the sport who has done something about steroids and testing.  An that is getting the athletic commissions on board before they run.  And I don&#8217;t know of another promoter who has tested their own fighters.</p>
<p>The UFC is light years ahead of the rest of the sport on this issue, so if anything, give White a prize, don&#8217;t point him out with complete inaccuracies just because they hate him.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How is Dana wrong with what he is saying? The “MMA Media” as a whole is horrible. And a lot of them are just that, fanboys. As great as sites even like this one are, there isn’t a lot of legit journalism going around.&quot;

If you&#039;ve read any of the &quot;real media&#039;s&quot; stories on MMA since its inception, you&#039;d know that it&#039;s far worse than most of the &quot;MMA Media&#039;s&quot; take. At least the &quot;MMA Media&quot; generally knows the history of the sport and can put things in context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How is Dana wrong with what he is saying? The “MMA Media” as a whole is horrible. And a lot of them are just that, fanboys. As great as sites even like this one are, there isn’t a lot of legit journalism going around.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve read any of the &#8220;real media&#8217;s&#8221; stories on MMA since its inception, you&#8217;d know that it&#8217;s far worse than most of the &#8220;MMA Media&#8217;s&#8221; take. At least the &#8220;MMA Media&#8221; generally knows the history of the sport and can put things in context.</p>
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		<title>By: Rollo the Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/20/mma-steroid-articles/comment-page-2/#comment-31803</link>
		<dc:creator>Rollo the Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; As great as sites even like this one are, there isn’t a lot of legit journalism going around.&quot;

Have you been reading this site the past year or two?

And yes, Dana is two faced telling fighters to avoid &quot;fan boy&quot; sites because they will turn on them.  Like he won&#039;t?  He has and will dumped fighters for the most piddling reasons imaginable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; As great as sites even like this one are, there isn’t a lot of legit journalism going around.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you been reading this site the past year or two?</p>
<p>And yes, Dana is two faced telling fighters to avoid &#8220;fan boy&#8221; sites because they will turn on them.  Like he won&#8217;t?  He has and will dumped fighters for the most piddling reasons imaginable.</p>
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