Comments on: The steroids mess http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:43:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bob http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-32140 Bob Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:44:36 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/#comment-32140 That Kevin Iole article is beyond ridiculous. He makes it look like if a lightweight takes steroids, he could knock out a heavyweight with one punch. Steroids do not increase your striking power!!! They help you recover faster after some brutal workouts. Why do they let a guy publish such false statements? He seems like he has no idea about steroids. That Kevin Iole article is beyond ridiculous. He makes it look like if a lightweight takes steroids, he could knock out a heavyweight with one punch. Steroids do not increase your striking power!!! They help you recover faster after some brutal workouts. Why do they let a guy publish such false statements? He seems like he has no idea about steroids.

]]> By: D. Capitated http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-31750 D. Capitated Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:31:36 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/#comment-31750 <i>D Capitated: Of course you can not prevent it from occurring, but you can prevent the fighters from fighting in the organization. It took less than two weeks for the CSAC to release the results of the drug tests. UFC could begin amending all future contracts to make their fighters to take a test 10 days before the fight. If they test positive, they don’t fight, don’t get paid, pay a fine, and get suspended for a year. If they don’t test positive for illegal substances, they fight. </i> The UFC is a sanctioning body, however. They can suspend people from their contract, but there's no guarantee that they'd be able to stop them from competing outside the US. You're missing the difference between what they can do and what an athletic commission can do. <i>Obviously this will never happen because it means that the UFC will have to drop fights left and right two days before the pay per view. There’s an easy solution, but money is getting in the way. If Dana thinks his organization is the only worthwhile club in the world, he should be ensuring that his fighters uphold his image along with their own.</i> If fighters test positive, its not going to reflect well on anyone. All that having a 10 day advance drug screening would do is have people cycle off 10 days sooner, if at all. From the UFC's perspective, it won't make them look any better to have them compete without finalized drug testing than it would to just cancel their fight altogether, especially in the case of a headliner/showcase bout. Hell, the Olympics doesn't get results until after competition is over. Does that do them irreparable harm? Does the world think the World Anti-Doping Agency is a joke as a result? D Capitated: Of course you can not prevent it from occurring, but you can prevent the fighters from fighting in the organization. It took less than two weeks for the CSAC to release the results of the drug tests. UFC could begin amending all future contracts to make their fighters to take a test 10 days before the fight. If they test positive, they don’t fight, don’t get paid, pay a fine, and get suspended for a year. If they don’t test positive for illegal substances, they fight.

The UFC is a sanctioning body, however. They can suspend people from their contract, but there’s no guarantee that they’d be able to stop them from competing outside the US. You’re missing the difference between what they can do and what an athletic commission can do.

Obviously this will never happen because it means that the UFC will have to drop fights left and right two days before the pay per view. There’s an easy solution, but money is getting in the way. If Dana thinks his organization is the only worthwhile club in the world, he should be ensuring that his fighters uphold his image along with their own.

If fighters test positive, its not going to reflect well on anyone. All that having a 10 day advance drug screening would do is have people cycle off 10 days sooner, if at all. From the UFC’s perspective, it won’t make them look any better to have them compete without finalized drug testing than it would to just cancel their fight altogether, especially in the case of a headliner/showcase bout. Hell, the Olympics doesn’t get results until after competition is over. Does that do them irreparable harm? Does the world think the World Anti-Doping Agency is a joke as a result?

]]> By: Brandt http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-31748 Brandt Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:09:15 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/#comment-31748 D Capitated: Of course you can not prevent it from occurring, but you can prevent the fighters from fighting in the organization. It took less than two weeks for the CSAC to release the results of the drug tests. UFC could begin amending all future contracts to make their fighters to take a test 10 days before the fight. If they test positive, they don't fight, don't get paid, pay a fine, and get suspended for a year. If they don't test positive for illegal substances, they fight. Obviously this will never happen because it means that the UFC will have to drop fights left and right two days before the pay per view. There's an easy solution, but money is getting in the way. If Dana thinks his organization is the only worthwhile club in the world, he should be ensuring that his fighters uphold his image along with their own. D Capitated: Of course you can not prevent it from occurring, but you can prevent the fighters from fighting in the organization. It took less than two weeks for the CSAC to release the results of the drug tests. UFC could begin amending all future contracts to make their fighters to take a test 10 days before the fight. If they test positive, they don’t fight, don’t get paid, pay a fine, and get suspended for a year. If they don’t test positive for illegal substances, they fight.

Obviously this will never happen because it means that the UFC will have to drop fights left and right two days before the pay per view. There’s an easy solution, but money is getting in the way. If Dana thinks his organization is the only worthwhile club in the world, he should be ensuring that his fighters uphold his image along with their own.

]]> By: 45 Huddle http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-31745 45 Huddle Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:55:22 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/#comment-31745 The Gaijn, Stop this personal feud you have with me. You insults will stop now. The Gaijn,

Stop this personal feud you have with me. You insults will stop now.

]]> By: D. Capitated http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-31734 D. Capitated Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:27:17 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/#comment-31734 The idea that you're ever gonna find a way to prevent doping is nonsense. People in prison get drugs, for fuck's sake. The idea that you’re ever gonna find a way to prevent doping is nonsense. People in prison get drugs, for fuck’s sake.

]]> By: The Gaijin http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-31726 The Gaijin Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:12:24 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/#comment-31726 Reading your "posts" makes you look like an idiot. Reading your “posts” makes you look like an idiot.

]]> By: The Gaijin http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-31725 The Gaijin Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:11:57 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/#comment-31725 I thought it was a great article and really calls the UFC to task. They want to be the face of mma - they better start making waves to clear things up. He makes tonnes of good, salient points on the issue - they preach all these things, then they run events in place where there's no testing and in one instance even put up the facade that they would be running testing themselves (for which they never released any results). MMA has a BIG problem with performance enhancing drugs and if the leading organization is going to turn a blind eye to it and shrug its shoulders I think they should be called to the mat. I thought it was a great article and really calls the UFC to task. They want to be the face of mma – they better start making waves to clear things up.

He makes tonnes of good, salient points on the issue – they preach all these things, then they run events in place where there’s no testing and in one instance even put up the facade that they would be running testing themselves (for which they never released any results).

MMA has a BIG problem with performance enhancing drugs and if the leading organization is going to turn a blind eye to it and shrug its shoulders I think they should be called to the mat.

]]> By: 45 Huddle http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-31721 45 Huddle Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:03:51 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/#comment-31721 http://mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?ac=ListMessages&PID=1&TID=1095964&FID=1&pc=48 http://mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?ac=ListMessages&PID=1&TID=1096029&FID=1&pc=12 http://mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?ac=ListMessages&PID=1&TID=1096048&FID=1&pc=60 http://mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?ac=ListMessages&PID=1&TID=1095964&FID=1&pc=48

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]]> By: 45 Huddle http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-31720 45 Huddle Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:54:30 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/#comment-31720 The majority of the IFL cards are run in non-regulated states. That is why you never hear of these guys getting busted. Plus, some are on pace to fight 6 or 7 times in a year. It's not even worth cycling through at that rate. I assume everybody read the Josh Gross rant at Sherdog.com directed at Dana White. Makes Gross look like an idiot. He is trying to use his hate for the UFC and make Dana seem like the bad guy here. There are a few posts at mma.tv that sum up his "editorial" best. The majority of the IFL cards are run in non-regulated states. That is why you never hear of these guys getting busted. Plus, some are on pace to fight 6 or 7 times in a year. It’s not even worth cycling through at that rate.

I assume everybody read the Josh Gross rant at Sherdog.com directed at Dana White. Makes Gross look like an idiot. He is trying to use his hate for the UFC and make Dana seem like the bad guy here. There are a few posts at mma.tv that sum up his “editorial” best.

]]> By: Grape Knee High http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-31718 Grape Knee High Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:45:20 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/19/the-steroids-mess/#comment-31718 I am all for more drug testing, but does anyone really think that more drug testing is actually going to rid MMA of illegal substance abuse? Really? The bigger the money and fame, all the more reason to use. And testing technology will ALWAYS be chasing drug technology, so only the dumb ones will continue to get caught. I am all for more drug testing, but does anyone really think that more drug testing is actually going to rid MMA of illegal substance abuse? Really?

The bigger the money and fame, all the more reason to use. And testing technology will ALWAYS be chasing drug technology, so only the dumb ones will continue to get caught.

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