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		<title>By: Tomer Chen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomer Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Solution:

Have a LWGP. 8 fighters over 3 events, or 16 fighters over 4. Crown the winner an “interim LW champion” and have that guy fight Sherk next year after his suspension.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I know it&#039;s a bit late, but I think that&#039;s a good idea. For either 8 or 16 fighters they could run at least the televised portion of a UFN event (4 fights televised and possibly another 4 untelevised) and, in the case of a 16 fighter tournament, they could run the quarter finals on another UFN card. The semi finals and definitely the finals could be run on PPV.

It likely won&#039;t happen, but it is a good idea and better than most of the seemingly random matchups seen on UFN cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Solution:</p>
<p>Have a LWGP. 8 fighters over 3 events, or 16 fighters over 4. Crown the winner an “interim LW champion” and have that guy fight Sherk next year after his suspension.</p></blockquote>
<p>I know it&#8217;s a bit late, but I think that&#8217;s a good idea. For either 8 or 16 fighters they could run at least the televised portion of a UFN event (4 fights televised and possibly another 4 untelevised) and, in the case of a 16 fighter tournament, they could run the quarter finals on another UFN card. The semi finals and definitely the finals could be run on PPV.</p>
<p>It likely won&#8217;t happen, but it is a good idea and better than most of the seemingly random matchups seen on UFN cards.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Your math is screwy, you clearly failed math in highschool. But the point is well taken; doping in MMA is rampant.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I had little trouble in HS math classes (Algebra, Geometry, Algebra II, etc.) and other math classes in higher education (statistics, etc.)  I&#039;m pretty good with numbers.  :)

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;One question, how can you have more than 100% chance of doing something? I think you just used the chance of fighters testing positive out of all fighters at an event and mixed it up with the chances a fighter is tested positive per event–hence the over 100% number.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I could said it was 100%, but all I did was take the 1.18 decimal form and made it 118%.  All you have to do is take the number of shows and multiply it by 1.18 or 118% to get the conversion rate (17 shows, 20 suspensions).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Your math is screwy, you clearly failed math in highschool. But the point is well taken; doping in MMA is rampant.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I had little trouble in HS math classes (Algebra, Geometry, Algebra II, etc.) and other math classes in higher education (statistics, etc.)  I&#8217;m pretty good with numbers.  <img src='http://www.fightopinion.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p><i>One question, how can you have more than 100% chance of doing something? I think you just used the chance of fighters testing positive out of all fighters at an event and mixed it up with the chances a fighter is tested positive per event–hence the over 100% number.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I could said it was 100%, but all I did was take the 1.18 decimal form and made it 118%.  All you have to do is take the number of shows and multiply it by 1.18 or 118% to get the conversion rate (17 shows, 20 suspensions).</p>
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		<title>By: FightOpinion.com - Your Global Connection to the Fight Industry.</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/18/dopes-caught-doping-at-big-rates/comment-page-2/#comment-31647</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Gaijin</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Gaijin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>45 - bet you must feel really great about insinuating how all the PRIDE guys and in particular Wandy Silva were big roiders...but looky who gets caught!  

None other than big Zuffa&#039;s LW Champ and resident walking syringe Sean &quot;Roid Shark&quot; Sherk.  

Glad to see Dana got you on here to do some spin control ASAP!!! He gets caught red handed and you come out with &quot;maybe he&#039;s working out a lot?&quot; hahaha - did you handle Floyd Landis&#039; PR?  Maybe Sherk drank a lot of whiskey before the fight!!!!  

And let me get this straight - Hermes Franca &quot;pathetic cheater&quot;; Sean Sherk (UFC LW Champ) &quot;works out a lot and takes legal supplements&quot; - too rich!

I&#039;m gonna be smiling for days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>45 &#8211; bet you must feel really great about insinuating how all the PRIDE guys and in particular Wandy Silva were big roiders&#8230;but looky who gets caught!  </p>
<p>None other than big Zuffa&#8217;s LW Champ and resident walking syringe Sean &#8220;Roid Shark&#8221; Sherk.  </p>
<p>Glad to see Dana got you on here to do some spin control ASAP!!! He gets caught red handed and you come out with &#8220;maybe he&#8217;s working out a lot?&#8221; hahaha &#8211; did you handle Floyd Landis&#8217; PR?  Maybe Sherk drank a lot of whiskey before the fight!!!!  </p>
<p>And let me get this straight &#8211; Hermes Franca &#8220;pathetic cheater&#8221;; Sean Sherk (UFC LW Champ) &#8220;works out a lot and takes legal supplements&#8221; &#8211; too rich!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m gonna be smiling for days.</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the same time, Dana White is saying everything right....

&quot;Our policy on fighters using steroids, illegal drugs or any banned substance remains the same, you cannot use them.  It&#039;s not only unhealthy and unsafe, it is against the law, The UFC fully supports the commission&#039;s efforts and we will continue to take the measures that keep this sport clean and keep the athletes safe.&quot;

As much as their is a problem in MMA right now, the fact that the UFC isn&#039;t trying to cover anything up, and are supporting the commissions with these positive tests, it basically squashes any negative press the sport might have.

Now, if you have the next 3 title fights have 6 fighters busted for roids, then that might be a different case.

As for my &quot;defending&quot; of the UFC.... I hadn&#039;t seen comments on here, but I have seen many people blaming White &amp; Zuffa on other message boards and blogs.

At the end of the day, it kind of makes me sad that this crap is happening.  It ruins Sherk/Penn.  It ruins a possibly good title run.

However, I wonder if Sherk is actually roiding.  I know that sounds stupid, but it sounds like his levels weren&#039;t that high, and the increased exercise and legal supplements have a chance of giving out those results.  Who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the same time, Dana White is saying everything right&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Our policy on fighters using steroids, illegal drugs or any banned substance remains the same, you cannot use them.  It&#8217;s not only unhealthy and unsafe, it is against the law, The UFC fully supports the commission&#8217;s efforts and we will continue to take the measures that keep this sport clean and keep the athletes safe.&#8221;</p>
<p>As much as their is a problem in MMA right now, the fact that the UFC isn&#8217;t trying to cover anything up, and are supporting the commissions with these positive tests, it basically squashes any negative press the sport might have.</p>
<p>Now, if you have the next 3 title fights have 6 fighters busted for roids, then that might be a different case.</p>
<p>As for my &#8220;defending&#8221; of the UFC&#8230;. I hadn&#8217;t seen comments on here, but I have seen many people blaming White &amp; Zuffa on other message boards and blogs.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, it kind of makes me sad that this crap is happening.  It ruins Sherk/Penn.  It ruins a possibly good title run.</p>
<p>However, I wonder if Sherk is actually roiding.  I know that sounds stupid, but it sounds like his levels weren&#8217;t that high, and the increased exercise and legal supplements have a chance of giving out those results.  Who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: 45 Huddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>45 Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will blame the UFC for one thing.

They posted that Sherk &amp; Franca tested positive for roids, and then within a few hours, quickly posted 2 completely irrelevant articles and then announcing Huerta/Crane, basically getting the news of the positive tests as far down the page as quickly as possible.

That is crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will blame the UFC for one thing.</p>
<p>They posted that Sherk &amp; Franca tested positive for roids, and then within a few hours, quickly posted 2 completely irrelevant articles and then announcing Huerta/Crane, basically getting the news of the positive tests as far down the page as quickly as possible.</p>
<p>That is crap.</p>
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		<title>By: KennyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KennyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the cost of testing is a problem, a first step is to STOP TESTING FOR CANNABIS - and any recreational drug that is not “performance enhancing”.&quot;


The presence of any non-enhancing drug would indicate a legitimate risk of performance detraction (for lack of a better term).  For example, muscle relaxers could put the drugged fighter in danger to himself if his reactions (or pain response) is diminished.

Drug testing isn&#039;t just designed to protect the opponent.  It also can protect the fighter himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the cost of testing is a problem, a first step is to STOP TESTING FOR CANNABIS &#8211; and any recreational drug that is not “performance enhancing”.&#8221;</p>
<p>The presence of any non-enhancing drug would indicate a legitimate risk of performance detraction (for lack of a better term).  For example, muscle relaxers could put the drugged fighter in danger to himself if his reactions (or pain response) is diminished.</p>
<p>Drug testing isn&#8217;t just designed to protect the opponent.  It also can protect the fighter himself.</p>
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		<title>By: klown</title>
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		<dc:creator>klown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the cost of testing is a problem, a first step is to STOP TESTING FOR CANNABIS - and any recreational drug that is not &quot;performance enhancing&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the cost of testing is a problem, a first step is to STOP TESTING FOR CANNABIS &#8211; and any recreational drug that is not &#8220;performance enhancing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: cyphron</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyphron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the alarming rate of fighters caught for using steroids even with a testing system in place, it makes me wonder about Pride in Japan. Is it safe to say that 75% of all fighters in Japan are steroid freaks as well? I know, that&#039;s a big jump in conclusion... but with no system in place, why wouldn&#039;t most athletes use it for a competitive edge?

For example, the Wanderlei fighting in Japan was very different from the one who got KOed by Henderson. Remember the fight VS Fujita? That looked suspiciously like Roid Rage to me. Even his stare down had more &quot;oompf&quot; in Japan. It makes you think...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the alarming rate of fighters caught for using steroids even with a testing system in place, it makes me wonder about Pride in Japan. Is it safe to say that 75% of all fighters in Japan are steroid freaks as well? I know, that&#8217;s a big jump in conclusion&#8230; but with no system in place, why wouldn&#8217;t most athletes use it for a competitive edge?</p>
<p>For example, the Wanderlei fighting in Japan was very different from the one who got KOed by Henderson. Remember the fight VS Fujita? That looked suspiciously like Roid Rage to me. Even his stare down had more &#8220;oompf&#8221; in Japan. It makes you think&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Trembow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan Trembow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, it costs less than $300 per fighter to test for banned stimulants, steroids, and recreational drugs, which makes it all the more ridiculous that less than half of the fighters are typically tested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, it costs less than $300 per fighter to test for banned stimulants, steroids, and recreational drugs, which makes it all the more ridiculous that less than half of the fighters are typically tested.</p>
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