Comments on: Phil Baroni suspended by the CSAC http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:30:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: UFCDaily.com http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/comment-page-1/#comment-30263 UFCDaily.com Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:23:07 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/#comment-30263 This was surprising but not nearly as surprising as Gracie testing positive. Doubt he'll ever get another shot in the UFC now but he still could clean his act up. This was surprising but not nearly as surprising as Gracie testing positive. Doubt he’ll ever get another shot in the UFC now but he still could clean his act up.

]]> By: Oltmann http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/comment-page-1/#comment-30258 Oltmann Wed, 04 Jul 2007 19:28:56 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/#comment-30258 Athletes get caught for boldenone because it has a very long detectable life, up to 5 months. Additionally, there is a "legal" prohormone on the market that the body metabolizes into boldenone and boldenone metabolites: http://www.islandsupplements.com/bodybuilding-supplement-products-850.htm So it could be that athletes still think, "If it is available OTC, it is okay." Athletes get caught for boldenone because it has a very long detectable life, up to 5 months.

Additionally, there is a “legal” prohormone on the market that the body metabolizes into boldenone and boldenone metabolites:

http://www.islandsupplements.com/bodybuilding-supplement-products-850.htm

So it could be that athletes still think, “If it is available OTC, it is okay.”

]]> By: D. Capitated http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/comment-page-1/#comment-30256 D. Capitated Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:19:33 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/#comment-30256 Can someone please explain to me why MMA continuously gets compared to the WWE in terms of the use of steroids, and not the seemingly hundreds of other sports that have very publicized issues with them? Apart from BS about RINGS/UWFi that has no meaning outside a single island based nation in Asia. Can someone please explain to me why MMA continuously gets compared to the WWE in terms of the use of steroids, and not the seemingly hundreds of other sports that have very publicized issues with them? Apart from BS about RINGS/UWFi that has no meaning outside a single island based nation in Asia.

]]> By: MMA Fan http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/comment-page-1/#comment-30247 MMA Fan Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:52:20 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/#comment-30247 tHIS IS CLASSIC: <i>MMAWeekly.com contacted Baroni's manager Ken Pavia, who gave the following statement: “While we respect the process and intent of the tests, we are disappointed with the results as they are completely unexpected. Phil did not knowingly ingest these drugs, which we are told are veterinary in nature. "</I> LOL. So what, Baroni accidentally ate his dogs kibble? Maybe chewed laced raw hide? so his "manager claims. They must think we are all stupid FN people. And worse when they deny it they come off as total liars insulting our intelligence. When Tim Sylvia got caught he manned up and admitted it, I respect that, these bull shit denials, are a joke. Hey Pav, EXPLAIN TO US HOW ONE ACCIDENTALLY TAKES DOG STEROIDS? Heres my message to ALL FIGHTERS: Watch the news. Look what they are doing to WWE over Steroids. If you care about MMA you will do everything possible to keep that kind of publicity away from the sport. If you won't give us that much, GET OUT OF THE SPORT. tHIS IS CLASSIC: MMAWeekly.com contacted Baroni’s manager Ken Pavia, who gave the following statement: “While we respect the process and intent of the tests, we are disappointed with the results as they are completely unexpected. Phil did not knowingly ingest these drugs, which we are told are veterinary in nature. “

LOL. So what, Baroni accidentally ate his dogs kibble? Maybe chewed laced raw hide? so his “manager claims. They must think we are all stupid FN people. And worse when they deny it they come off as total liars insulting our intelligence. When Tim Sylvia got caught he manned up and admitted it, I respect that, these bull shit denials, are a joke.

Hey Pav, EXPLAIN TO US HOW ONE ACCIDENTALLY TAKES DOG STEROIDS?

Heres my message to ALL FIGHTERS: Watch the news. Look what they are doing to WWE over Steroids. If you care about MMA you will do everything possible to keep that kind of publicity away from the sport. If you won’t give us that much, GET OUT OF THE SPORT.

]]> By: D. Capitated http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/comment-page-1/#comment-30245 D. Capitated Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:31:15 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/#comment-30245 I'm wondering what major US commission would allow a fighter with a tumor to fight? I can see a place like Tennessee or an indian casino doing it because they don't require MRIs, but otherwise? I’m wondering what major US commission would allow a fighter with a tumor to fight? I can see a place like Tennessee or an indian casino doing it because they don’t require MRIs, but otherwise?

]]> By: 45 Huddle http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/comment-page-1/#comment-30244 45 Huddle Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:17:10 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/#comment-30244 I wouldn't call it a smear campaign. And I never said the shows were run by Pro Elite. My point is that if Pro Elite puts it's stamp of approval on the show, it has its issues. I wouldn’t call it a smear campaign. And I never said the shows were run by Pro Elite. My point is that if Pro Elite puts it’s stamp of approval on the show, it has its issues.

]]> By: klown http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/comment-page-1/#comment-30242 klown Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:19:41 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/#comment-30242 How do these guys think they'll get away with steroid use when California tests all fighters? How do these guys think they’ll get away with steroid use when California tests all fighters?

]]> By: JThue http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/comment-page-1/#comment-30233 JThue Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:42:36 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/#comment-30233 45 Huddle's apparent smear campaign continues. - Royce fought for UFC last year, and may very well have tested positive then if there had been steroid testing in place. - Silva & Choi's situations are way too special and borderline(on whether or not a given commission would allow them to fight) to blame PE in any way. - Morton, Choi and Royce were FEG bookings, and Baroni & Williams Strikeforce. Pro Elite's list from these shows(test failures and withdrawees) actually reads Tim Persey, Charles Bennett and Antonio Silva, altough Williams may also be 'eligible'. Split over two shows they've actually not had more problems than UFC, really, not least when taken into account that CA tests all fighters, and these were back-to-back shows in CA(Persey and Williams would have had good odds of not being tested in NV, for instance). On one side you have two out of six main event fighters over two shows testing positive, plus another withdrawn pre-show - which does indeed look bad - , but on the other, none of those(Gracie, Baroni, Choi) were Pro-Elite-fighters. 45 Huddle’s apparent smear campaign continues.

- Royce fought for UFC last year, and may very well have tested positive then if there had been steroid testing in place.
- Silva & Choi’s situations are way too special and borderline(on whether or not a given commission would allow them to fight) to blame PE in any way.
- Morton, Choi and Royce were FEG bookings, and Baroni & Williams Strikeforce. Pro Elite’s list from these shows(test failures and withdrawees) actually reads Tim Persey, Charles Bennett and Antonio Silva, altough Williams may also be ‘eligible’. Split over two shows they’ve actually not had more problems than UFC, really, not least when taken into account that CA tests all fighters, and these were back-to-back shows in CA(Persey and Williams would have had good odds of not being tested in NV, for instance).

On one side you have two out of six main event fighters over two shows testing positive, plus another withdrawn pre-show – which does indeed look bad – , but on the other, none of those(Gracie, Baroni, Choi) were Pro-Elite-fighters.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/comment-page-1/#comment-30229 Jonathan Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:45:54 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/#comment-30229 Baroni lost in the ring. I really believe that steroids hurt your chances of winning a fight. Baroni lost in the ring. I really believe that steroids hurt your chances of winning a fight.

]]> By: Torgo http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/comment-page-1/#comment-30228 Torgo Wed, 04 Jul 2007 07:25:48 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/07/03/phil-baroni-suspended-by-the-csac/#comment-30228 Wow, TWO kinds of steroids. That can't be safe, right? Wow, TWO kinds of steroids. That can’t be safe, right?

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