Comments on: DSE rumor mill – 6/4 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:43:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: SamScaff http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/comment-page-1/#comment-27299 SamScaff Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:09:26 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/#comment-27299 At least the Pride USA shows had decent fights as well as big names. I went to Pride 33 in Vegas and it was an awesome show. Truly awesome (I went to Pride 34 in Tokyo...not nearly as good) Sure, maybe the Pride USA shows didnt make money and werent as popular as a UFC show, but the fighters and fights were infinitely better than what was put on by K1. At least the Pride USA shows had decent fights as well as big names. I went to Pride 33 in Vegas and it was an awesome show. Truly awesome (I went to Pride 34 in Tokyo…not nearly as good) Sure, maybe the Pride USA shows didnt make money and werent as popular as a UFC show, but the fighters and fights were infinitely better than what was put on by K1.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/comment-page-1/#comment-27297 Jonathan Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:03:05 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/#comment-27297 I think that it is safe to assume that a promotion from Country A does not how to promote in Country B...that much is becoming evident. When the UFC went to Japan, or K-1/Pride coming to America, neither was able to adapt to or even understand the new market that they were trying to reach. Pride did an ok job of it in America, but I think that they were doomed even before their American shows. The key to success is getting to understand the market that you are going to exist in and finding out the best overall way to connect 100% with that audience. I think that it is safe to assume that a promotion from Country A does not how to promote in Country B…that much is becoming evident. When the UFC went to Japan, or K-1/Pride coming to America, neither was able to adapt to or even understand the new market that they were trying to reach. Pride did an ok job of it in America, but I think that they were doomed even before their American shows.

The key to success is getting to understand the market that you are going to exist in and finding out the best overall way to connect 100% with that audience.

]]> By: UFCDaily.com http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/comment-page-1/#comment-27280 UFCDaily.com Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:17:17 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/#comment-27280 K-1 just aimed too high. I think there may be potential for the organization but it needs to get its act together quick. It needs to get organized, attract some big fighters, pick a venue "its size", and most of all americanize. There were a lot of complaints about the show in general especially the DJ. The event doesn't need to copy the UFC but the UFC is big for a reason: they understand the market. K-1 came in thinking MMA is big there, lets take advantage of it. MMA is averagely popular when it comes to resonating with fans. It is the UFC itself that is huge and it is carrying the sport on its back. As I see it the UFC and WEC are the top 2 organizations which will have the most success in the US with Elite XC and Bodog likely next on the list. These orgs at least understand the culture but they haven't quite perfected their promotions just yet. I think the UFC is the only ones who know exactly how to capitalize and the other events (particularly the japanese MMA orgs like Pride, K-1, and others) are just lagging behind and will need to catch up fast or they'll be left in the dust. K-1 just aimed too high. I think there may be potential for the organization but it needs to get its act together quick. It needs to get organized, attract some big fighters, pick a venue “its size”, and most of all americanize.

There were a lot of complaints about the show in general especially the DJ. The event doesn’t need to copy the UFC but the UFC is big for a reason: they understand the market. K-1 came in thinking MMA is big there, lets take advantage of it. MMA is averagely popular when it comes to resonating with fans. It is the UFC itself that is huge and it is carrying the sport on its back.

As I see it the UFC and WEC are the top 2 organizations which will have the most success in the US with Elite XC and Bodog likely next on the list. These orgs at least understand the culture but they haven’t quite perfected their promotions just yet. I think the UFC is the only ones who know exactly how to capitalize and the other events (particularly the japanese MMA orgs like Pride, K-1, and others) are just lagging behind and will need to catch up fast or they’ll be left in the dust.

]]> By: white ninja http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/comment-page-1/#comment-27276 white ninja Tue, 05 Jun 2007 00:42:37 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/#comment-27276 good to see DSE bosses staying involved and interested in the MMA business wasnt it tanigawa who joked about giving Sakakibara a job in Heros. that would be a dream team of promoters, Tanigawa and Sakakibara. The Japanese versions of Vince McMahon and Don King getting together good to see DSE bosses staying involved and interested in the MMA business

wasnt it tanigawa who joked about giving Sakakibara a job in Heros. that would be a dream team of promoters, Tanigawa and Sakakibara. The Japanese versions of Vince McMahon and Don King getting together

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/comment-page-1/#comment-27258 Jonathan Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:47:29 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/#comment-27258 This has been said many times before, but I think that it lends credence to the UFC as the only game in...well, period. K-1 tried to go big from the start, instead of working their way up to big shows. Maybe they should hae started to do some medium to moderate sized shows with stronger (and by stronger I mean more concrete) cards. Maybe something similar to what Strikeforce is doing. This has been said many times before, but I think that it lends credence to the UFC as the only game in…well, period.

K-1 tried to go big from the start, instead of working their way up to big shows. Maybe they should hae started to do some medium to moderate sized shows with stronger (and by stronger I mean more concrete) cards. Maybe something similar to what Strikeforce is doing.

]]> By: DarthMolen http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/comment-page-1/#comment-27254 DarthMolen Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:05:40 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/#comment-27254 Yeah, I am sure they were gleeful as K-1 crashed and burned for a couple million dollars... ugh. Hopefully that fiasco doesn't set back MMA a couple years in the U.S. Yeah, I am sure they were gleeful as K-1 crashed and burned for a couple million dollars…

ugh. Hopefully that fiasco doesn’t set back MMA a couple years in the U.S.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/comment-page-1/#comment-27247 Jonathan Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:18:43 +0000 http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/06/04/dse-rumor-mill-64/#comment-27247 I have no doubt that the people mentioned in the article were at the K1 show. It justs make sense for all former DSE staff to make it in to watch the show to see how their former biggest competitor would do in a market where they failed. I have no doubt that the people mentioned in the article were at the K1 show. It justs make sense for all former DSE staff to make it in to watch the show to see how their former biggest competitor would do in a market where they failed.

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