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	<title>Comments on: Report: PRIDE fighters sue DSE</title>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/05/23/report-pride-fighters-sue-dse/comment-page-1/#comment-25764</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 08:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Civil lawsuits in Japan are incredibly sloooooooooow.  The system is designed to encourage settling/negotiating a compromise [in order to preserve the much needed all important WA.]  I doubt this&#039;ll ever see a courtroom.  There&#039;ll be some kind of settlement...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Civil lawsuits in Japan are incredibly sloooooooooow.  The system is designed to encourage settling/negotiating a compromise [in order to preserve the much needed all important WA.]  I doubt this&#8217;ll ever see a courtroom.  There&#8217;ll be some kind of settlement&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fan Futbol</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/05/23/report-pride-fighters-sue-dse/comment-page-1/#comment-25734</link>
		<dc:creator>Fan Futbol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 21:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fellas,

I&#039;m a lawyer.  I don&#039;t immediately see how a dispute over the enforceability and assignability of a relatively small number of fighter contracts is the appropriate subject for a class action, which, in the U.S. requires typicality, commonality and numerosity.  The described suit would have serious problems with all three.  But I&#039;ll reserve judgment until I know (a) where the lawsuit or suits will be filed and (b) what law they&#039;ll seek to apply.  You can file a law in one state or country and seek to apply the law of another state or country.  

In any event, whether the lawsuit is a class action or not, the general rule is that personal services contracts are not assignable -- but you can contract around that rule, i.e., you can sign a personal services contract that says in the contract that the contract is assignable.  The law is rarely black and white.  

If anyone ever gets their hands on a copy of this pending lawsuit, I&#039;d love to see the complaint.

FF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fellas,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a lawyer.  I don&#8217;t immediately see how a dispute over the enforceability and assignability of a relatively small number of fighter contracts is the appropriate subject for a class action, which, in the U.S. requires typicality, commonality and numerosity.  The described suit would have serious problems with all three.  But I&#8217;ll reserve judgment until I know (a) where the lawsuit or suits will be filed and (b) what law they&#8217;ll seek to apply.  You can file a law in one state or country and seek to apply the law of another state or country.  </p>
<p>In any event, whether the lawsuit is a class action or not, the general rule is that personal services contracts are not assignable &#8212; but you can contract around that rule, i.e., you can sign a personal services contract that says in the contract that the contract is assignable.  The law is rarely black and white.  </p>
<p>If anyone ever gets their hands on a copy of this pending lawsuit, I&#8217;d love to see the complaint.</p>
<p>FF</p>
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		<title>By: FINALIZED</title>
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		<dc:creator>FINALIZED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PRIDE-UFC Deal Finalized

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=7639</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PRIDE-UFC Deal Finalized</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=7639" rel="nofollow">http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=7639</a></p>
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		<title>By: Report: PRIDE Fighters Planning Lawsuit Against DSE -- UFC news at UFCjunkie.com</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/05/23/report-pride-fighters-sue-dse/comment-page-1/#comment-25698</link>
		<dc:creator>Report: PRIDE Fighters Planning Lawsuit Against DSE -- UFC news at UFCjunkie.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 14:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he stated at FightOpinion.com: If this information is accurate, it reflects positively upon what I have been arguing online for a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Grape Knee High</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/05/23/report-pride-fighters-sue-dse/comment-page-1/#comment-25694</link>
		<dc:creator>Grape Knee High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 13:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Keep talking. Please.&quot;

Get over yourself, Zach.  You run a great blog and you&#039;ve attracted an intelligent, thoughtful readership.  That&#039;s why I continue to come back.

However, that doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re always right.  Your arrogance is unbecoming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Keep talking. Please.&#8221;</p>
<p>Get over yourself, Zach.  You run a great blog and you&#8217;ve attracted an intelligent, thoughtful readership.  That&#8217;s why I continue to come back.</p>
<p>However, that doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re always right.  Your arrogance is unbecoming.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/05/23/report-pride-fighters-sue-dse/comment-page-1/#comment-25680</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 05:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;When you throw as much shit as Zach does against a wall, something is bound to stick. Heâ€™s wrong just as often â€” if not more often â€” as he is right.

Heâ€™s been saying PRIDE was going under since, what, 2005? Maybe earlier? Hereâ€™s an equivalent prediction: Cro Cop will retire.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Keep talking.  Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>When you throw as much shit as Zach does against a wall, something is bound to stick. Heâ€™s wrong just as often â€” if not more often â€” as he is right.</p>
<p>Heâ€™s been saying PRIDE was going under since, what, 2005? Maybe earlier? Hereâ€™s an equivalent prediction: Cro Cop will retire.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Keep talking.  Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 04:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dooks, you&#039;re wrong if the majority of Pride&#039;s contracts are non-exclusive... and it seems like they are. While the case is pending, Zuffa/Wordwide won&#039;t have standing to enjoin them from signing contracts with other orgs... yeah, if they lose they might have to fulfill their DSE contracts for Worldwide at that point, a year or two down the line, but they&#039;re not holding out.

Also, did you read the article? PSCs are not enforceable in court... seems like they&#039;re going to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dooks, you&#8217;re wrong if the majority of Pride&#8217;s contracts are non-exclusive&#8230; and it seems like they are. While the case is pending, Zuffa/Wordwide won&#8217;t have standing to enjoin them from signing contracts with other orgs&#8230; yeah, if they lose they might have to fulfill their DSE contracts for Worldwide at that point, a year or two down the line, but they&#8217;re not holding out.</p>
<p>Also, did you read the article? PSCs are not enforceable in court&#8230; seems like they&#8217;re going to win.</p>
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		<title>By: Grape Knee High</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grape Knee High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 04:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Okay itâ€™s official : Zach Arnold is a warlock who is shaping the future with his accusations.&quot;

When you throw as much shit as Zach does against a wall, something is bound to stick.  He&#039;s wrong just as often -- if not more often -- as he is right.

He&#039;s been saying PRIDE was going under since, what, 2005?  Maybe earlier?  Here&#039;s an equivalent prediction: Cro Cop will retire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Okay itâ€™s official : Zach Arnold is a warlock who is shaping the future with his accusations.&#8221;</p>
<p>When you throw as much shit as Zach does against a wall, something is bound to stick.  He&#8217;s wrong just as often &#8212; if not more often &#8212; as he is right.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s been saying PRIDE was going under since, what, 2005?  Maybe earlier?  Here&#8217;s an equivalent prediction: Cro Cop will retire.</p>
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		<title>By: white ninja</title>
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		<dc:creator>white ninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 03:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bringing the law suit in Japan or the US?

the answer will probably be- bring it in the US first - that way you can tactically look to involve the fertittas, since it is likely that they are knowingly involved and cooperating in the standover tactics being engaged in by DSE in relation to fighters

bringing the suit in japan has little value - since there are grave doubts as to whether DSE has any assets of any value left - reports from Japan are that DSE is millions of $$$ in debt (and UFC seems to have already got hold of that much vaunted video library)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bringing the law suit in Japan or the US?</p>
<p>the answer will probably be- bring it in the US first &#8211; that way you can tactically look to involve the fertittas, since it is likely that they are knowingly involved and cooperating in the standover tactics being engaged in by DSE in relation to fighters</p>
<p>bringing the suit in japan has little value &#8211; since there are grave doubts as to whether DSE has any assets of any value left &#8211; reports from Japan are that DSE is millions of $$$ in debt (and UFC seems to have already got hold of that much vaunted video library)</p>
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		<title>By: white ninja</title>
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		<dc:creator>white ninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 03:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dooks-  

its the height of irony that somebody would be accusing anybody of extortion against DSE - it was exactly this crime, extortion by Sakakibara and his yakuza bosses, which led to PRIDE&#039;s self destruction

live by the sword, die by the sword : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dooks-  </p>
<p>its the height of irony that somebody would be accusing anybody of extortion against DSE &#8211; it was exactly this crime, extortion by Sakakibara and his yakuza bosses, which led to PRIDE&#8217;s self destruction</p>
<p>live by the sword, die by the sword : )</p>
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