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	<title>Comments on: Dana White talks about Fedor</title>
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		<title>By: Tomer Chen</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/04/19/dana-white-talks-about-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-23269</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomer Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So Tomer, you believe that theyâ€™re going through the â€˜due diligenceâ€™ process right now and that they will soon (if they hadnâ€™t already) uncover â€˜worthless contracts and hidden debt/â€™slush fundsâ€™?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not saying that this is what I personally believe they will find, but it is likely the top items on Zuffa&#039;s agenda while running their due diligence given the allegations regarding DSE&#039;s links to the Yakuza. I do think, though, it&#039;s funny that no one can possibly believe that DSE potentially could have been a Yakuza front (as was the allegation) considering that in the past there have been numerous examples of large organizations in various industries falling under the influence of organized crime, such as: the International Boxing Club, owned by Jim Norris (the HOF Hockey Promoter who also controlled MSG) and Arthur Wirtz was revealed as a Mafia front for Frankie Carbo and &#039;Blinky&#039; Palermo, who used their power to control pretty much all of Boxing (and, in the process, helped begin its decline by their inept matchmaking, fight fixing/dives, etc.), the Teamsters union which also was heavily controlled by the Mafia, stories of promoters such as Antonio Inoki basically being subservient to every whim of the Yakuza (this is discussed in Tom &#039;Dynamite Kid&#039; Billington&#039;s book, &quot;Pure Dynamite&quot;) and so forth.  

In summation: I don&#039;t know whether or not DSE was &#039;influenced&#039; by the Yakuza, but there is historical precedent of big organizations being under organized crime&#039;s control, so it shouldn&#039;t be a shock if it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So Tomer, you believe that theyâ€™re going through the â€˜due diligenceâ€™ process right now and that they will soon (if they hadnâ€™t already) uncover â€˜worthless contracts and hidden debt/â€™slush fundsâ€™?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that this is what I personally believe they will find, but it is likely the top items on Zuffa&#8217;s agenda while running their due diligence given the allegations regarding DSE&#8217;s links to the Yakuza. I do think, though, it&#8217;s funny that no one can possibly believe that DSE potentially could have been a Yakuza front (as was the allegation) considering that in the past there have been numerous examples of large organizations in various industries falling under the influence of organized crime, such as: the International Boxing Club, owned by Jim Norris (the HOF Hockey Promoter who also controlled MSG) and Arthur Wirtz was revealed as a Mafia front for Frankie Carbo and &#8216;Blinky&#8217; Palermo, who used their power to control pretty much all of Boxing (and, in the process, helped begin its decline by their inept matchmaking, fight fixing/dives, etc.), the Teamsters union which also was heavily controlled by the Mafia, stories of promoters such as Antonio Inoki basically being subservient to every whim of the Yakuza (this is discussed in Tom &#8216;Dynamite Kid&#8217; Billington&#8217;s book, &#8220;Pure Dynamite&#8221;) and so forth.  </p>
<p>In summation: I don&#8217;t know whether or not DSE was &#8216;influenced&#8217; by the Yakuza, but there is historical precedent of big organizations being under organized crime&#8217;s control, so it shouldn&#8217;t be a shock if it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Body_Shots</title>
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		<dc:creator>Body_Shots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Tomer, you believe that they&#039;re going through the &#039;due diligence&#039; process right now and that they will soon (if they hadn&#039;t already) uncover &lt;i&gt;&#039;worthless contracts and hidden debt/â€™slush fundsâ€™?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Tomer, you believe that they&#8217;re going through the &#8216;due diligence&#8217; process right now and that they will soon (if they hadn&#8217;t already) uncover <i>&#8216;worthless contracts and hidden debt/â€™slush fundsâ€™?</i></p>
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		<title>By: Tomer Chen</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/04/19/dana-white-talks-about-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-23263</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomer Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Please, someone tell me what they expect will turn up through this â€˜due diligenceâ€™ or whateverâ€™s happening now thatâ€™s going to be a huge deal?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Worthless contracts and hidden debt/&#039;slush funds&#039; would probably top the list. The allegations of criminal links is another facet, though they can only uncover so much (assuming there would be a paper trail in the accounting books and other documentation that was handed over, which would be pretty stupid) and, really, the closest they could probably prove something shady was going on if they spot a &#039;slush fund&#039;-type of situation where the money has mysteriously been filtered out of the organization. Wouldn&#039;t necessarily prove any Yakuza connections but still would be more than reasonable grounds to back out given that the corporation would be &#039;dirtied&#039; by said &#039;slush fund&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Please, someone tell me what they expect will turn up through this â€˜due diligenceâ€™ or whateverâ€™s happening now thatâ€™s going to be a huge deal?</p></blockquote>
<p>Worthless contracts and hidden debt/&#8217;slush funds&#8217; would probably top the list. The allegations of criminal links is another facet, though they can only uncover so much (assuming there would be a paper trail in the accounting books and other documentation that was handed over, which would be pretty stupid) and, really, the closest they could probably prove something shady was going on if they spot a &#8217;slush fund&#8217;-type of situation where the money has mysteriously been filtered out of the organization. Wouldn&#8217;t necessarily prove any Yakuza connections but still would be more than reasonable grounds to back out given that the corporation would be &#8216;dirtied&#8217; by said &#8217;slush fund&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Fightlinker.com</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/04/19/dana-white-talks-about-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-23262</link>
		<dc:creator>Fightlinker.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta agree that the due diligence thing has been blown out of proportion. Even if they are performing it now (which is pure speculation), there&#039;s very little chance that the official books are going to show any deal-breaking ties to shady organizations. Please, someone tell me what they expect will turn up through this &#039;due diligence&#039; or whatever&#039;s happening now that&#039;s going to be a huge deal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta agree that the due diligence thing has been blown out of proportion. Even if they are performing it now (which is pure speculation), there&#8217;s very little chance that the official books are going to show any deal-breaking ties to shady organizations. Please, someone tell me what they expect will turn up through this &#8216;due diligence&#8217; or whatever&#8217;s happening now that&#8217;s going to be a huge deal?</p>
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		<title>By: Tomer Chen</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/04/19/dana-white-talks-about-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-23261</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomer Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;zach you are truely an idiot&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, Ad hominem attacks: the Sherdog staple &#039;method&#039; of argumentation. Always a winning way to defend one&#039;s point...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>zach you are truely an idiot</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, Ad hominem attacks: the Sherdog staple &#8216;method&#8217; of argumentation. Always a winning way to defend one&#8217;s point&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zach you are truely an idiot and you are going to hang on to this due diligence thing for like a year arent you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zach you are truely an idiot and you are going to hang on to this due diligence thing for like a year arent you?</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/04/19/dana-white-talks-about-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-23258</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great radio show this week once again.

With Whaledog asking if Putin was in attendance at the Bodog show...not only was he there, but he brought Fedor &amp; Lindland back to his palace after the event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great radio show this week once again.</p>
<p>With Whaledog asking if Putin was in attendance at the Bodog show&#8230;not only was he there, but he brought Fedor &amp; Lindland back to his palace after the event.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomer</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/04/19/dana-white-talks-about-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-23244</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As Tomer has argued before (the day after the Roppongi Hills PR session), what Iâ€™ve alluded to happens quite a bit in the â€˜real world.â€™&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Another thing to mention, besides the potential legal issues stemming from the alleged Yakuza connections of the DSE-run PRIDE organization is the accounting in Japan. After all, this is a U.S. Company (Zuffa) that (more than likely) follows the GAAP standards. If DSE did not use GAAP/IASB (IASB being the international version of GAAP with a few differences, essentially) then it will take Zuffa a while to figure out what various accounts mean, etc. in the context of the Japanese accounting regulations that are in place. International deals are always complex with regards to accounting analysis (which is typically the last step in due diligence).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As Tomer has argued before (the day after the Roppongi Hills PR session), what Iâ€™ve alluded to happens quite a bit in the â€˜real world.â€™</p></blockquote>
<p>Another thing to mention, besides the potential legal issues stemming from the alleged Yakuza connections of the DSE-run PRIDE organization is the accounting in Japan. After all, this is a U.S. Company (Zuffa) that (more than likely) follows the GAAP standards. If DSE did not use GAAP/IASB (IASB being the international version of GAAP with a few differences, essentially) then it will take Zuffa a while to figure out what various accounts mean, etc. in the context of the Japanese accounting regulations that are in place. International deals are always complex with regards to accounting analysis (which is typically the last step in due diligence).</p>
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		<title>By: JThue</title>
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		<dc:creator>JThue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you say that guys are locked up to PRIDE contracts (exclusive or non-exclusive), then why are you trying to negotiate new deals? Whatâ€™s the point of buying the PRIDE assets from DSE if the contracts are worthless or of little value?&quot;

- Why would you even wonder about this? Most if not all of the PRIDE contracts appear(and have done so for years) to be non- 100% exclusive, and Dana White RESCENTS non-exclusive deals. The contracts are worth something because the fighters can&#039;t just leave PRIDE - they(speaking in general terms here) still have fight(s) left on their deals, and he is renegotiating because he wants to go from preventing them from leaving en masse to tie them up completely to his company and his company only. I don&#039;t agree with his politics, but I sure as hell can see the logic in the way he&#039;s handling things right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you say that guys are locked up to PRIDE contracts (exclusive or non-exclusive), then why are you trying to negotiate new deals? Whatâ€™s the point of buying the PRIDE assets from DSE if the contracts are worthless or of little value?&#8221;</p>
<p>- Why would you even wonder about this? Most if not all of the PRIDE contracts appear(and have done so for years) to be non- 100% exclusive, and Dana White RESCENTS non-exclusive deals. The contracts are worth something because the fighters can&#8217;t just leave PRIDE &#8211; they(speaking in general terms here) still have fight(s) left on their deals, and he is renegotiating because he wants to go from preventing them from leaving en masse to tie them up completely to his company and his company only. I don&#8217;t agree with his politics, but I sure as hell can see the logic in the way he&#8217;s handling things right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Euthyphro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euthyphro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So what is happening now then? The transfering of assets?&quot;

What, are they being moved in a truck?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So what is happening now then? The transfering of assets?&#8221;</p>
<p>What, are they being moved in a truck?</p>
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