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		<title>By: Diamond Dave Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/02/03/ufc-67-all-or-nothing-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-14750</link>
		<dc:creator>Diamond Dave Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach, that is exactly my point that you made. It is when any crititism is tossed at you or the writers on the site, instead of you taking the comments and analyzing the situation, you always take the low road and lash out at anyone who dares walk on your hollowed ground. Zach, do you honestly think that your writers are the best they could be? Do you think you are providing the most informative information that you can? If you have peaked the traffic on the site will decrease. If you want to improve take crititism constructively and learn from what others think. The innuendo in Erins last comments, tell me that she had picked up on the point. Zach, you could learn something from her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach, that is exactly my point that you made. It is when any crititism is tossed at you or the writers on the site, instead of you taking the comments and analyzing the situation, you always take the low road and lash out at anyone who dares walk on your hollowed ground. Zach, do you honestly think that your writers are the best they could be? Do you think you are providing the most informative information that you can? If you have peaked the traffic on the site will decrease. If you want to improve take crititism constructively and learn from what others think. The innuendo in Erins last comments, tell me that she had picked up on the point. Zach, you could learn something from her.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/02/03/ufc-67-all-or-nothing-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-14669</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;This may be true Zach, but when you are challenged on an opinion on YOUR site, you try to trash the opinion or thought of the person writing it.
I am the most recent example of this.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You launch a flame attack on a writer.  You question their writing ability, then set it up for a punchline.  And you don&#039;t expect to be fired upon?

It isn&#039;t me or the writers on this site who can&#039;t take the heat.  It&#039;s the trolls who can&#039;t handle it when fired back in their face.  This has nothing to do with criticism of writers and has everything to do with the cheap shots.  There&#039;s a big difference between being challenged on facts and being open-endedly cheapshotted by someone intentionally looking for a pissing contest.  Congratulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>This may be true Zach, but when you are challenged on an opinion on YOUR site, you try to trash the opinion or thought of the person writing it.<br />
I am the most recent example of this.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>You launch a flame attack on a writer.  You question their writing ability, then set it up for a punchline.  And you don&#8217;t expect to be fired upon?</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t me or the writers on this site who can&#8217;t take the heat.  It&#8217;s the trolls who can&#8217;t handle it when fired back in their face.  This has nothing to do with criticism of writers and has everything to do with the cheap shots.  There&#8217;s a big difference between being challenged on facts and being open-endedly cheapshotted by someone intentionally looking for a pissing contest.  Congratulations.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/02/03/ufc-67-all-or-nothing-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-14663</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, it comes down to simply this: My humor is not for everyone. This is how I review fights and this is how I have reviewed different TV events for years. If you aren&#039;t cool with it, that&#039;s fine. There are plenty of other recaps out there for you to read, in fact most that I have seen are far more serious than mine. Perhaps you would be happier reading them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, it comes down to simply this: My humor is not for everyone. This is how I review fights and this is how I have reviewed different TV events for years. If you aren&#8217;t cool with it, that&#8217;s fine. There are plenty of other recaps out there for you to read, in fact most that I have seen are far more serious than mine. Perhaps you would be happier reading them.</p>
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		<title>By: Diamond Dave Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diamond Dave Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach, your response is exactly what I am talking about, I was just questioning the depth of the article. If a fan who did not watch the event would read Erin&#039;s RE-CAP in the hopes of gaining any insight to the event itself, they would leave not learning much at all other than who won and who lost. 
By hosting this site and insulting other opinions by calling someones opinion BS and by calling them a troll, you providing enough inneuendo that states the only opinion that counts is yours.
As Ben stated, by referring to Erin as your puppet, that may have been a harsh statement, however Ben is correct in his analysis of the Cro-Cop fashion statement as this provides nothing in the form of a fight re-cap.

As far as Zach Paraphrase &quot; I control no one - for better or for worse - in regards to their thoughts when writing on this site.&quot;
This may be true Zach, but when you are challenged on an opinion on YOUR site, you try to trash the opinion or thought of the person writing it.
I am the most recent example of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach, your response is exactly what I am talking about, I was just questioning the depth of the article. If a fan who did not watch the event would read Erin&#8217;s RE-CAP in the hopes of gaining any insight to the event itself, they would leave not learning much at all other than who won and who lost.<br />
By hosting this site and insulting other opinions by calling someones opinion BS and by calling them a troll, you providing enough inneuendo that states the only opinion that counts is yours.<br />
As Ben stated, by referring to Erin as your puppet, that may have been a harsh statement, however Ben is correct in his analysis of the Cro-Cop fashion statement as this provides nothing in the form of a fight re-cap.</p>
<p>As far as Zach Paraphrase &#8221; I control no one &#8211; for better or for worse &#8211; in regards to their thoughts when writing on this site.&#8221;<br />
This may be true Zach, but when you are challenged on an opinion on YOUR site, you try to trash the opinion or thought of the person writing it.<br />
I am the most recent example of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach 

Uh, no.  That was one example out of many from the recap that got on my nerves.  If you think I&#039;d bother with a paragraph of buildup just to call somebody a dork, you&#039;re mistaken.  I could have gone with other things as well, from the fact that she mentioned she likes Godsmack (yeah yeah, personal taste) to the implication that Eastman and Rampage having a close stare-down might imply that they&#039;re gay (tee-hee).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach </p>
<p>Uh, no.  That was one example out of many from the recap that got on my nerves.  If you think I&#8217;d bother with a paragraph of buildup just to call somebody a dork, you&#8217;re mistaken.  I could have gone with other things as well, from the fact that she mentioned she likes Godsmack (yeah yeah, personal taste) to the implication that Eastman and Rampage having a close stare-down might imply that they&#8217;re gay (tee-hee).</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;The writing style was not being question, the depth of the article was.
Is it possible that on the Fight Opinion site, Zach Arnold only wants the correct opinion to be his?
Food for though Zach.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re the one who continues, in every reply, to perpetuate a situation on this site that doesn&#039;t exist.  I&#039;m calling you out on your bull**** - that&#039;s what I&#039;m doing.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;So am I correct in saying that no writer should ever be criticized no matter what? Is that the point thatâ€™s being made?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is completely incorrect.  The troll is trying to market the assumption that everyone who writes on this site is somehow under my &#039;spell&#039; as far as what to politically say or write.  That&#039;s 100% false.  I control no one - for better or for worse - in regards to their thoughts when writing on this site.  I&#039;ve had people before tell me that I should be a copy editor for all the op-eds that other writers do on the site.  If I did that, you would have people cry censorship.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;News Flash: Iâ€™ve seen pictures, Erinâ€¦you look considerably dorkier than Cro Cop in a long fucking t-shirt.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Don&#039;t try to take the high road, Ben, when all you were doing in your reply was presenting a front and then setting up for the silly cheap shot at the end.  Enough out of the marks, already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>The writing style was not being question, the depth of the article was.<br />
Is it possible that on the Fight Opinion site, Zach Arnold only wants the correct opinion to be his?<br />
Food for though Zach.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re the one who continues, in every reply, to perpetuate a situation on this site that doesn&#8217;t exist.  I&#8217;m calling you out on your bull**** &#8211; that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m doing.  </p>
<blockquote><p><i>So am I correct in saying that no writer should ever be criticized no matter what? Is that the point thatâ€™s being made?</i></p></blockquote>
<p>That is completely incorrect.  The troll is trying to market the assumption that everyone who writes on this site is somehow under my &#8217;spell&#8217; as far as what to politically say or write.  That&#8217;s 100% false.  I control no one &#8211; for better or for worse &#8211; in regards to their thoughts when writing on this site.  I&#8217;ve had people before tell me that I should be a copy editor for all the op-eds that other writers do on the site.  If I did that, you would have people cry censorship.  </p>
<blockquote><p><i>News Flash: Iâ€™ve seen pictures, Erinâ€¦you look considerably dorkier than Cro Cop in a long fucking t-shirt.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t try to take the high road, Ben, when all you were doing in your reply was presenting a front and then setting up for the silly cheap shot at the end.  Enough out of the marks, already.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, you should be able to present criticisms -- and my repsonse to those criticisms was that I do this for my own entertainment and that I don&#039;t really have any interest in becoming &quot;pro&quot; at it as that would ruin my own interest in it. If I did, I would happily take Diamond&#039;s suggestions.

As for Lutter, he specifically stated that he had trouble motivating himself to lose weight. I&#039;m not sure of the EXACT quote, but the term &quot;motivation&quot; (or some variation thereof) was used, by him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, you should be able to present criticisms &#8212; and my repsonse to those criticisms was that I do this for my own entertainment and that I don&#8217;t really have any interest in becoming &#8220;pro&#8221; at it as that would ruin my own interest in it. If I did, I would happily take Diamond&#8217;s suggestions.</p>
<p>As for Lutter, he specifically stated that he had trouble motivating himself to lose weight. I&#8217;m not sure of the EXACT quote, but the term &#8220;motivation&#8221; (or some variation thereof) was used, by him.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So am I correct in saying that no writer should ever be criticized no matter what?  Is that the point that&#039;s being made?  Maybe calling her a puppet was a bit over the line, but, aside from that, I completely agreed.  Fashion tips to Cro Cop?  News Flash: I&#039;ve seen pictures, Erin...you look considerably dorkier than Cro Cop in a long fucking t-shirt.

Also, it was a huuuuge fuck-up for Lutter not to have made weight, but I doubt it was due to a lack of motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So am I correct in saying that no writer should ever be criticized no matter what?  Is that the point that&#8217;s being made?  Maybe calling her a puppet was a bit over the line, but, aside from that, I completely agreed.  Fashion tips to Cro Cop?  News Flash: I&#8217;ve seen pictures, Erin&#8230;you look considerably dorkier than Cro Cop in a long fucking t-shirt.</p>
<p>Also, it was a huuuuge fuck-up for Lutter not to have made weight, but I doubt it was due to a lack of motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Diamond Dave Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/02/03/ufc-67-all-or-nothing-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-14630</link>
		<dc:creator>Diamond Dave Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynchman, I thank you for your comments. I do feel a little mis understood on this. The point I was trying to make was the articles that Erin contributes are just very light on the scope of the event. I try to read every article in order to have an open mind on specific events and to get more insight on the event that I just witnessed. I feel that Erin&#039;s view of a fight would not assist a fan who was not fortunate to view an event. If she provided more real analysis, she could provide more to the sight. She does have the tools to do this I would like her to evolve this skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynchman, I thank you for your comments. I do feel a little mis understood on this. The point I was trying to make was the articles that Erin contributes are just very light on the scope of the event. I try to read every article in order to have an open mind on specific events and to get more insight on the event that I just witnessed. I feel that Erin&#8217;s view of a fight would not assist a fan who was not fortunate to view an event. If she provided more real analysis, she could provide more to the sight. She does have the tools to do this I would like her to evolve this skill.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynchman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DDW,
If Erin&#039;s choice of writing style, and what you are talking about is indeed part of the style of writing, is not what you want, read the work of other writers.

I alluded to this before, but Erin is choosing to use her own voice and allow her personality to play in her commentary. Nothing wrong with that.

Another person might make the decision to be more analytical, that would also be fine.

But the very aspects that bother Dave are the same things that likely draw some people to read Miz Erin.

I edit for a Crime Fiction Magazine. I deal with plenty of writers, almost all of them are nationally published with some being award-winners and bestsellers. 
Some, like Christopher Moore, choose a lighter style, while others, like George Pelecanos, take a more serious and harder approach.

There is no right or wrong.

Personally, I think Zach&#039;s response had more to do with Dave belittling Erin&#039;s contributions (suggesting that by not taking the route you prefer, she is simply Zach&#039;s puppet) than you being on the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DDW,<br />
If Erin&#8217;s choice of writing style, and what you are talking about is indeed part of the style of writing, is not what you want, read the work of other writers.</p>
<p>I alluded to this before, but Erin is choosing to use her own voice and allow her personality to play in her commentary. Nothing wrong with that.</p>
<p>Another person might make the decision to be more analytical, that would also be fine.</p>
<p>But the very aspects that bother Dave are the same things that likely draw some people to read Miz Erin.</p>
<p>I edit for a Crime Fiction Magazine. I deal with plenty of writers, almost all of them are nationally published with some being award-winners and bestsellers.<br />
Some, like Christopher Moore, choose a lighter style, while others, like George Pelecanos, take a more serious and harder approach.</p>
<p>There is no right or wrong.</p>
<p>Personally, I think Zach&#8217;s response had more to do with Dave belittling Erin&#8217;s contributions (suggesting that by not taking the route you prefer, she is simply Zach&#8217;s puppet) than you being on the money.</p>
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