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		<title>By: FightOpinion.com - Your Global Connection to the Fight Industry.</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/01/27/eddie-goldman-issues-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-14732</link>
		<dc:creator>FightOpinion.com - Your Global Connection to the Fight Industry.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In addition to our guest interviews, we have a segment reviewing the controversial statements made by Eddie Goldman on his radio show. Plus, a recap of the UFC 67 event (take note of some of the items we noticed that others didn&#8217;t during this event). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In addition to our guest interviews, we have a segment reviewing the controversial statements made by Eddie Goldman on his radio show. Plus, a recap of the UFC 67 event (take note of some of the items we noticed that others didn&#8217;t during this event). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/01/27/eddie-goldman-issues-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-14721</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JThue: You mentioned that Rogan threw a fit over the stand-ups in List/Marquardt, but that wasn&#039;t televised, so I&#039;m curious as to where you read this.  Any helpw ould be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JThue: You mentioned that Rogan threw a fit over the stand-ups in List/Marquardt, but that wasn&#8217;t televised, so I&#8217;m curious as to where you read this.  Any helpw ould be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/01/27/eddie-goldman-issues-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-14101</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks Eddie needs to get out of the house more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks Eddie needs to get out of the house more often.</p>
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		<title>By: Fightlinker.com</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/01/27/eddie-goldman-issues-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-14054</link>
		<dc:creator>Fightlinker.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 04:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fisher/Franca, Herman/Price and Guida/Thomas were all great fights. While most of these fighters are still continuing to climb the ladder to becoming legitimate top 5 names, you can&#039;t deny that they are all top tier talent.

I listen to pretty much all of the mma podcasts and Goldman&#039;s was the only one I made a firm decision to stop listening to because I find him generally boring. It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if he did this in order to create a stir and help his exposure. Oh what a pro wrestling thing to do ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fisher/Franca, Herman/Price and Guida/Thomas were all great fights. While most of these fighters are still continuing to climb the ladder to becoming legitimate top 5 names, you can&#8217;t deny that they are all top tier talent.</p>
<p>I listen to pretty much all of the mma podcasts and Goldman&#8217;s was the only one I made a firm decision to stop listening to because I find him generally boring. It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if he did this in order to create a stir and help his exposure. Oh what a pro wrestling thing to do <img src='http://www.fightopinion.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mehdi</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/01/27/eddie-goldman-issues-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-14052</link>
		<dc:creator>Mehdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2007 why should anyone give a rat&#039;s arse what Goldman says? Any TRUE fan of the sport would not begrudge the UFC their success, it&#039;s good for the sport, it&#039;s good for the fighters. I&#039;m sure the thing that bugs Goldman the most is the that millions of new fans have no idea who he is and care even less. Don&#039;t slow down progress old man and FFS get a clue about promotion. Zuffa are in this business to make money not promote some ridiculous, romantic idea about the purity of sport and sportsmanship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2007 why should anyone give a rat&#8217;s arse what Goldman says? Any TRUE fan of the sport would not begrudge the UFC their success, it&#8217;s good for the sport, it&#8217;s good for the fighters. I&#8217;m sure the thing that bugs Goldman the most is the that millions of new fans have no idea who he is and care even less. Don&#8217;t slow down progress old man and FFS get a clue about promotion. Zuffa are in this business to make money not promote some ridiculous, romantic idea about the purity of sport and sportsmanship.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaos</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/01/27/eddie-goldman-issues-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-14051</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œYour first paragraph just proves the point that they are in effect promoting anti social behavior.â€

By saying when we train we have fighting on our minds? Iâ€™m not sure what they did in what youâ€™re claiming to have experience in, but at my camps it has been working yourself hard to become the best fighter possible, which means thinking of strategies and learning what to do in situations. Iâ€™m sure all the fighters who read this site and/or have been interviewed on the show would agree. 

When you get to that point, the meditation, â€œrespect for the artâ€ and semi-spiritual teachings of martial arts classes are not there. If youâ€™re into that, then great. Iâ€™m not. I get pleasure out of fighting. Not going out and maiming someone, but the rush of it. Not the art and sensei teachings. I guess in your opinion Iâ€™m anti-social. Whatever.

The thing about TUF that is different from other camps is that they are competing, and therefore trash talking for the camera is featured on the show. Iâ€™m guessing thatâ€™s what you have the issue with. Fighting is part show business. If you donâ€™t like that and think itâ€˜s too WWF, thatâ€™s your opinion. But itâ€™s what sells in America and we need to make money. 99.99% of guys donâ€™t mean what they say and would feel horrible if they seriously injured someone like they might claim theyâ€™re going to do in interviews, itâ€™s just show business to get peopleâ€™s attention. Your idol Ali did it too, Eddie. Hell, he made it an artform by copying pro wrestlers â€œpromosâ€ in his pre-fight interviews. Iâ€™ve never had hatred for someone Iâ€™ve competed against, and I hope they didnâ€™t have hatred for me. But for 15 minutes or less that goes out the window and itâ€˜s survival of the fittest. And we live for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œYour first paragraph just proves the point that they are in effect promoting anti social behavior.â€</p>
<p>By saying when we train we have fighting on our minds? Iâ€™m not sure what they did in what youâ€™re claiming to have experience in, but at my camps it has been working yourself hard to become the best fighter possible, which means thinking of strategies and learning what to do in situations. Iâ€™m sure all the fighters who read this site and/or have been interviewed on the show would agree. </p>
<p>When you get to that point, the meditation, â€œrespect for the artâ€ and semi-spiritual teachings of martial arts classes are not there. If youâ€™re into that, then great. Iâ€™m not. I get pleasure out of fighting. Not going out and maiming someone, but the rush of it. Not the art and sensei teachings. I guess in your opinion Iâ€™m anti-social. Whatever.</p>
<p>The thing about TUF that is different from other camps is that they are competing, and therefore trash talking for the camera is featured on the show. Iâ€™m guessing thatâ€™s what you have the issue with. Fighting is part show business. If you donâ€™t like that and think itâ€˜s too WWF, thatâ€™s your opinion. But itâ€™s what sells in America and we need to make money. 99.99% of guys donâ€™t mean what they say and would feel horrible if they seriously injured someone like they might claim theyâ€™re going to do in interviews, itâ€™s just show business to get peopleâ€™s attention. Your idol Ali did it too, Eddie. Hell, he made it an artform by copying pro wrestlers â€œpromosâ€ in his pre-fight interviews. Iâ€™ve never had hatred for someone Iâ€™ve competed against, and I hope they didnâ€™t have hatred for me. But for 15 minutes or less that goes out the window and itâ€˜s survival of the fittest. And we live for that.</p>
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		<title>By: grafdog</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/01/27/eddie-goldman-issues-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-14043</link>
		<dc:creator>grafdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chaos,
Your first paragraph just proves the point that they are in effect promoting anti social behavior.

Secondly, you have been knocked out, but the majority of viewers have not. 
I never presented the theory you refer to. By covering up the aftermath of a fight resulting in injury they do the sport an injustice by not showing how they are cared for, and showing the consequence of their actions.

Why denigrate me when you&#039;ve validated some of Goldmans points with your comments.

You&#039;ve overreached  yourself  by claiming i&#039;m not a fighter.

I&#039;m a martial artist have been for some time practiced judo and escrima  between 10-12 tried boxing but the smell and the lack of skills at the P.A.L gym turned me off.
I&#039;ve wrestled in high school. I&#039;ve had a quite a few street fights out of high school all of which i was defending myself. I got the better of them all. I have fought 3 guys at once, a drunk friend of mine and i fought 4 guys bigger  than us. I was attacked by 9 teenagers and ran, got a call from some buddy&#039;s later that night, and we went out looking for them. They were arrested for breaking into a store and were saved a beating.
 Started practicing Kenpo at 25 kickboxing at 26. A few years later got back into judo after training jiu jitsu from renzo gracie tapes. Trained some sambo via Yakimov with my neighbor.
I have actually armbarred a guy in a street fight. I have tapped out twice in my life when i was exhausted in the dojo after taping 4 other students then getting layed on for 3 minutes by the teacher.

I have many more stories, but you get the point.
 
Sometimes the best knowledge is knowing when to quit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chaos,<br />
Your first paragraph just proves the point that they are in effect promoting anti social behavior.</p>
<p>Secondly, you have been knocked out, but the majority of viewers have not.<br />
I never presented the theory you refer to. By covering up the aftermath of a fight resulting in injury they do the sport an injustice by not showing how they are cared for, and showing the consequence of their actions.</p>
<p>Why denigrate me when you&#8217;ve validated some of Goldmans points with your comments.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve overreached  yourself  by claiming i&#8217;m not a fighter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a martial artist have been for some time practiced judo and escrima  between 10-12 tried boxing but the smell and the lack of skills at the P.A.L gym turned me off.<br />
I&#8217;ve wrestled in high school. I&#8217;ve had a quite a few street fights out of high school all of which i was defending myself. I got the better of them all. I have fought 3 guys at once, a drunk friend of mine and i fought 4 guys bigger  than us. I was attacked by 9 teenagers and ran, got a call from some buddy&#8217;s later that night, and we went out looking for them. They were arrested for breaking into a store and were saved a beating.<br />
 Started practicing Kenpo at 25 kickboxing at 26. A few years later got back into judo after training jiu jitsu from renzo gracie tapes. Trained some sambo via Yakimov with my neighbor.<br />
I have actually armbarred a guy in a street fight. I have tapped out twice in my life when i was exhausted in the dojo after taping 4 other students then getting layed on for 3 minutes by the teacher.</p>
<p>I have many more stories, but you get the point.</p>
<p>Sometimes the best knowledge is knowing when to quit.</p>
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		<title>By: JThue</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/01/27/eddie-goldman-issues-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-14037</link>
		<dc:creator>JThue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The war against Lay&#039;n Pray is indeed a just cause, but UFC are going about it the wrong way. They&#039;re basically saying &quot;less laying, more striking&quot; rather than focusing on simply eliminating the problem, which is not grappling but stalling in general. They could REALLY learn a lot from PRIDE on how to handle this(both with stand-ups and point deductions/purse deductions if allowed by commision). An issue in the US that UFC can not be blamed for is how apalling many of the referees are when it comes to understanding the ground game, but a man like McCarthy has no excuses in this area. It&#039;s not very complicated either:

1. Wrestling includes no finishing, so a wrestler just controlling should be stood up as it leads to NOTHING at all.
2. Jui-Jitsu DOES include finishing, so a referee should recognize the difference between stalling and working. No, the Royce-type BJJ of an endless setup should not be allowed, but to stand up a JJ-fighter who is actively using his guard from the bottom is freaking insane, and UFC and IFL are both treading dangerous waters here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The war against Lay&#8217;n Pray is indeed a just cause, but UFC are going about it the wrong way. They&#8217;re basically saying &#8220;less laying, more striking&#8221; rather than focusing on simply eliminating the problem, which is not grappling but stalling in general. They could REALLY learn a lot from PRIDE on how to handle this(both with stand-ups and point deductions/purse deductions if allowed by commision). An issue in the US that UFC can not be blamed for is how apalling many of the referees are when it comes to understanding the ground game, but a man like McCarthy has no excuses in this area. It&#8217;s not very complicated either:</p>
<p>1. Wrestling includes no finishing, so a wrestler just controlling should be stood up as it leads to NOTHING at all.<br />
2. Jui-Jitsu DOES include finishing, so a referee should recognize the difference between stalling and working. No, the Royce-type BJJ of an endless setup should not be allowed, but to stand up a JJ-fighter who is actively using his guard from the bottom is freaking insane, and UFC and IFL are both treading dangerous waters here.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaos</title>
		<link>http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/01/27/eddie-goldman-issues-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-14034</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, something has to be done about the lay n pray crap that goes on way too much in the UFC. I have not seen a UFC referee stop an exciting ground war, just a fighter laying on another with nothing going on. 

Someone buying a UFC PPV for the first time, thinking about getting into the sport isn&#039;t going to be forking over another 40 bucks to see two men laying on each other doing nothing for the majority of the show unless they&#039;re homosexual.

I fully realize transitioning to a move, BJJ artists waiting for a mistake, ect, but what was O&#039;Brien doing when he was stood up? Nothing, he was just waiting out the rounds. If you want to see that, you&#039;ve got problems.

If UFC was really ending ground fighters, they would not have BJ Penn, Matt Serra, Matt Hughes, Jeff Monson, Hermes Franca, Tito Ortiz and Randy Couture in the main event picture for 2006 and/or coming up in 2007. It&#039;s not their fault champions Liddell, Silva and Sylvia  mostly win by KO and Cro Cop is going to be the next champion with KOs. Grapplers need to step up their stand up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, something has to be done about the lay n pray crap that goes on way too much in the UFC. I have not seen a UFC referee stop an exciting ground war, just a fighter laying on another with nothing going on. </p>
<p>Someone buying a UFC PPV for the first time, thinking about getting into the sport isn&#8217;t going to be forking over another 40 bucks to see two men laying on each other doing nothing for the majority of the show unless they&#8217;re homosexual.</p>
<p>I fully realize transitioning to a move, BJJ artists waiting for a mistake, ect, but what was O&#8217;Brien doing when he was stood up? Nothing, he was just waiting out the rounds. If you want to see that, you&#8217;ve got problems.</p>
<p>If UFC was really ending ground fighters, they would not have BJ Penn, Matt Serra, Matt Hughes, Jeff Monson, Hermes Franca, Tito Ortiz and Randy Couture in the main event picture for 2006 and/or coming up in 2007. It&#8217;s not their fault champions Liddell, Silva and Sylvia  mostly win by KO and Cro Cop is going to be the next champion with KOs. Grapplers need to step up their stand up.</p>
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		<title>By: JThue</title>
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		<dc:creator>JThue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UFC themselves are also clearly phasing out grappling. Just look at head ref McCarthy&#039;s ridiculous behaviour at FN on Thursday, specifically the stand ups in the Lister-Marquardt fight, where even Rogan was throwing a fit on commentary over Big John&#039;s obvious BIG change of heart in stand-up policy(and surely he didn&#039;t just come up with that by himself). We&#039;re not too far away from where I can see an MMA company in the US soon being able to market themselves successfully as the &quot;promotion that allows grappling&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UFC themselves are also clearly phasing out grappling. Just look at head ref McCarthy&#8217;s ridiculous behaviour at FN on Thursday, specifically the stand ups in the Lister-Marquardt fight, where even Rogan was throwing a fit on commentary over Big John&#8217;s obvious BIG change of heart in stand-up policy(and surely he didn&#8217;t just come up with that by himself). We&#8217;re not too far away from where I can see an MMA company in the US soon being able to market themselves successfully as the &#8220;promotion that allows grappling&#8221;.</p>
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